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11-10-2012, 04:55 AM
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Great Britain beat Romania 3-0 today
Japan is currently up 2-1 over South Korea in the 3rd period

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11-10-2012, 05:16 AM
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Lithuanian roster, maybe somebody is interested

Goalies:
Mantas Armalis (Mora IK, Allsvenskan; currently on loan at Tranĺs AIF, Division 1), Arūnas Aleinikovas („Energija“, Lithuania)

Defensemen:

Tomas Vyšniauskas („Energija“), Rolandas Aliukonis („Energija“), Artūras Katulis („Berkut Kiev“, Ukraine), Karolis Kubilius („Energija“), Justinas Vėželis („Energija“), Nerijus Ališauskas („Liepajas Metalurgs“, Latvia/Belarus), Valdas Pikčius („Energija“)

Forwards:

Dalius Vaiciukevičius („Energija“), Dovydas Kulevičius („Energija“), Algimantas Visockas („Energija“), Vytautas Jagelavičius („Energija“), Remigijus Guoga (Kėdainių LRK, Lithuania), Povilas Verenis („Liepajas Metalurgs“, Latvia/Belarus), Andrejus Židkovas („Energija“), Laisvydas Rimkus („Energija“), Aivaras Bendžius („Ilves Tampere“, Finland), Danielius Bogdziulis („Ilves Tampere“, Finalnd), Šarūnas Kuliešius („Energija“), Deividas Kazlauskas („Energija“)


Missing ~10 of the best players, still better than Croatia
hmm, no Kieras or Pliskauskas?

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11-10-2012, 05:26 AM
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Come on Korea!

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11-10-2012, 05:27 AM
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Come on Korea!
Japan wins in OT.

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11-10-2012, 05:36 AM
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Too bad. Oh well, at least they still have 5 years of World Championships to prove to the naysayers they deserve an automatic spot when they host the Olympics, just like Japan and Italy got.

And they aren't out of it yet, if Britain can beat Japan in regulation (I think). No wait, that would give Britain the group. So they are out.

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11-10-2012, 05:52 AM
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Too bad. Oh well, at least they still have 5 years of World Championships to prove to the naysayers they deserve an automatic spot when they host the Olympics, just like Japan and Italy got.

And they aren't out of it yet, if Britain can beat Japan in regulation (I think). No wait, that would give Britain the group. So they are out.
No Korea are still in it I think. It gets confusing if GB beat Japan in OT and Korea win in regulation, that puts all three teams on 6 points, in which case the following rules apply:

If three or more teams have the same number of points in the group after completion of the round-robin, then their ranking is determined by the higher number of points in a special standing composed just from the results of their head-to-head (mutual) games. If the number of points is equal between the teams in this special standing just from the results of their head-to-head (mutual) games, then the following tie breaking criteria applies (with no secondary return to the head-to-head results):

1. Goal differential in the standing between the teams involved.
2. Higher number of goals scored between the teams involved.
3. Goal differential from all games played in the group.
4. Higher number of goals scored from all games played in the group.
5. Shootout between the teams which are still equal.


So basically get rid of the games against Romania, and all teams would still be equal. It would then go down to goal differential excluding the Romania games. In which case I think it would still be equal. Then it comes down to number of goals scored excluding against Romania, in which case I think Korea would take the group unless GB score 4 or more against Japan in their OT win. If GB score 3 against Japan, Korea needed to have beaten Romania by 4 goals. If Korea beat Romania by 3, it comes down to total goals scored.


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11-10-2012, 12:29 PM
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hmm, no Kieras or Pliskauskas?
They were allowed to stay at their teams.

Lithuania is missing 10 players or more so basically the roster for this tournament is Lithuania's B team. Every player who is established NT member, has nothing to prove and would have to travel to Lithuania (that's really expensive from, lets say, Kazakhstan) was allowed not to come. Armalis and Katulis are the only ones who for some reason did it anyway.

Players playing on the first line in this tournament like Zidkovas or Kuliesius would be a 4th liners in the WC team if everyone was available.


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Just as expected, Hungary overrun Croatia 13:0.

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They were allowed to stay at their teams.

Lithuania is missing 10 players or more so basically the roster for this tournament is Lithuania's B team. Every player who is established NT member, has nothing to prove and would have to travel to Lithuania (that's really expensive from, lets say, Kazakhstan) was allowed not to come. Armalis and Katulis are the only ones who for some reason did it anyway.

Players playing on the first line in this tournament like Zidkovas or Kuliesius would be a 4th liners in the WC team if everyone was available.
Ok so basically they just didn't want to travel for training camp or whatever? I just thought it was odd since they always play in the WC's. I'm local to the team they play for and I often line their games.

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Ok so basically they just didn't want to travel for training camp or whatever? I just thought it was odd since they always play in the WC's. I'm local to the team they play for and I often line their games.
It's kind of an odd situation but in the end it's all about money, really. Lithuanian hockey federation felt that there's no chance to advance to the next round and they decided they don't want to spend any money on players' traveling expenses. So players simply stayed with their clubs. But both Pliskauskas and Kieras will definitely play in the WC if they will be healthy.

By the way, how are they doing? And maybe you do know how much are they being paid? It would be really interesting to compare wages in EPIHL and Belarusian league.


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It's kind of an odd situation but in the end it's all about money, really. Lithuanian hockey federation felt that there's no chance to advance to the next round and they decided they don't want to spend any money on players' traveling expenses. So players simply they stayed with their clubs. But both Pliskauskas and Kieras will definitely play in the WC if they will be healthy.

By the way, how are they doing? And maybe you do know how much are they being paid? It would be really interesting to compare wages in EPIHL and Belarusian league.
They are both top players in the league, Pliskauskas is joint top point scorer for their team and in previous seasons he was in the top 10 league scoring. Kieras is a high scoring Dman, he's doing well this season with 6 goals 6 assists in 13 games, he's a big weapon on the PP with his slapshot. I don't know exactly how much they are paid, but for top imports I would guess they earn maybe Ł400 a week, don't quote me on that though.

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11-11-2012, 04:27 AM
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They are both top players in the league, Pliskauskas is joint top point scorer for their team and in previous seasons he was in the top 10 league scoring. Kieras is a high scoring Dman, he's doing well this season with 6 goals 6 assists in 13 games, he's a big weapon on the PP with his slapshot. I don't know exactly how much they are paid, but for top imports I would guess they earn maybe Ł400 a week, don't quote me on that though.
That is 1600 per month...Jesus, he is earning more money than current Medvescak top scorer and top 5 scorer in whole EBEL league.

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Sunday's scores

South Korea 2-0 Romania
Japan 1-2 Great Britain

Great Britain advance to the final qualification group.


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That is 1600 per month...Jesus, he is earning more money than current Medvescak top scorer and top 5 scorer in whole EBEL league.
Honestly I don't know how accurate that is since its just a guess, I definitely read somewhere a typical average EIHL player earns that much. But you have to remember that's in GB Pounds not Euros. 400 Euros a week in Croatia will buy you a lot more than 400 pounds in England.


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11-11-2012, 06:40 AM
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Sunday's scores

South Korea 2-0 Romania
Japan 1-2 Great Britain

Great Britain advance to the final qualification group.
Fantastic result for us.

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Netherlands upset Hungary today with 7:6so win over hosts.Very good tournament for Dutch team. Good luck in the next round.

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GB going to Denmark.

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GB going to Denmark.
Latvia, Ukraine is going to Denmark.

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Here's the full line up for the remaining three qualification groups:

Final Olympic Qualification, 7-10 February:

Group D in Bietigheim-Bissingen, Germany:
Germany (10), Austria (15), Italy (16), Netherlands (24)

Group E in Riga, Latvia:
Latvia (11), France (14), Kazakhstan (17), Great Britain (21)

Group F in Vojens, Denmark:
Denmark (12), Belarus (13), Slovenia (18), Ukraine (20)

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Here's the full line up for the remaining three qualification groups:

Final Olympic Qualification, 7-10 February:

Group D in Bietigheim-Bissingen, Germany:
Germany (10), Austria (15), Italy (16), Netherlands (24)

Group E in Riga, Latvia:
Latvia (11), France (14), Kazakhstan (17), Great Britain (21)

Group F in Vojens, Denmark:
Denmark (12), Belarus (13), Slovenia (18), Ukraine (20)
Group of death ! Especially if lockout countinues...even Slovenia has a shot with Kopitar and Mursak in their lineup. Should be six very close and entertaining games.

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Group of death ! Especially if lockout countinues...even Slovenia has a shot with Kopitar and Mursak in their lineup. Should be six very close and entertaining games.
You say even Slovenia has a shot but they had won Division 1 WC last year while Ukraine I believe was fifth. So Slovenia has much better shot than Ukraine. Since lockout will most likely be over I expect Ukraine to be a punching bags. They are really no good at that level without Poni and Fedotenko.

I guess Danish hockey fans are praying for lockout not to end as they would benefit from it far more than Belarus, Slovenia or Ukraine.

And I wonder, will NHL teams let guys like Pock, Holzer, Andersen, who are key NT players, come back to play.

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Final Qualification Tournament:
Group D :
Team GP W OTW OTL L GF GA DIF PTS
Germany000000000
Austria000000000
Italy000000000
Netherlands000000000


Group D schedule :
DateTeamTeamTimeResult
2/7/13AustriaItaly10:00 AM EST 
2/7/13GermanyNetherlands1:30 PM EST 
2/8/13AustriaNetherlands10:00 AM EST 
2/8/13ItalyGermany1:30 PM EST 
2/10/13NetherlandsItaly5:45 AM EST 
2/10/13GermanyAustria9:15 AM EST 

Group E
Team GP W OTW OTL L GF GA DIF PTS
Latvia000000000
France000000000
Kazakhstan000000000
Great Britain000000000


Group E schedule :
DateTeamTeamTimeResult
2/7/13FranceKazakhstan8:30 AM EST 
2/7/13LatviaGreat Britain12:30 PM EST 
2/8/13FranceGreat Britain8:30 AM EST 
2/8/13KazakhstanLatvia12:30 PM EST 
2/10/13Great BritainKazakhstan11:00 AM EST 
2/10/13LatviaFrance2:00 pm EST 

Group F
Team GP W OTW OTL L GF GA DIF PTS
Denmark000000000
Belarus000000000
Slovenia000000000
Ukraine000000000


Group F schedule :
DateTeamTeamTimeResult
2/7/13BelarusSlovenia10:00 PM EST 
2/7/13DenmarkUkraine2:00 PM EST 
2/8/13BelarusUkraine11:00 AM EST 
2/8/13SloveniaDenmark3:00 PM EST 
2/10/13UkraineSlovenia9:00 AM EST 
2/10/13DenmarkBelarus1:00 PM EST 

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You say even Slovenia has a shot but they had won Division 1 WC last year while Ukraine I believe was fifth. So Slovenia has much better shot than Ukraine. Since lockout will most likely be over I expect Ukraine to be a punching bags. They are really no good at that level without Poni and Fedotenko.

I guess Danish hockey fans are praying for lockout not to end as they would benefit from it far more than Belarus, Slovenia or Ukraine.

And I wonder, will NHL teams let guys like Pock, Holzer, Andersen, who are key NT players, come back to play.
When I wrote "even Slovenia" I ment alongside with Denmark and Belarus.

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Footage of all goals scored in the deciding game between Hungary and The Netherlands:


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