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LD Xavier Ouellet (2011, 48th overall, Detroit)

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11-09-2012, 09:20 PM
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woah woah, easy now big fella
I would say he is, especially when it comes to playing defence

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11-09-2012, 10:03 PM
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I would say he is, especially when it comes to playing defence
Love Ouellet... But if he makes it... It will be as a 7th Dmen...

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11-09-2012, 10:13 PM
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I think it's debatable.
newfy is one of the biggest kool aid drinker on these boards. If he's under 22 years old and Red Wing property he's already the next Datsyuk/Lidstrom.

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11-09-2012, 10:13 PM
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omg he shoots the puck every time he touches it wooooo. he'll bust.

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What's funny was this summer I was one of the few who was praising him and saying he's the best defensmen in the Q coming into this season and was one of the few putting his name in the underrated prospect thread. I guess things turned out just fine

Now all I have to do is convince you guys that he's top 5 D in Canada since people continue to exclude him from the WJC team when imo he's the 3rd best D-man right now behind Hamilton and Murray.
That's really deranged and couldn't be farther from the truth.

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and you would be wrong

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11-09-2012, 10:15 PM
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Love Ouellet... But if he makes it... It will be as a 7th Dmen...
No way... Definately a 2nd or 3rd pairing Dman on Canada...

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11-09-2012, 10:19 PM
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Love Ouellet... But if he makes it... It will be as a 7th Dmen...
How so? He was top4 in the summit series if I recall?

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11-09-2012, 10:30 PM
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Well it's a deep D but he should still crack the top 6.

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11-10-2012, 02:19 AM
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newfy is one of the biggest kool aid drinker on these boards. If he's under 22 years old and Red Wing property he's already the next Datsyuk/Lidstrom.
Biggest kool aid drinkers? Because I think Ouellet is a better prospect then Stuart Percy, who didnt even get an invite to the summer camp?

Youre a leafs fan I'm guessing?

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11-10-2012, 02:41 AM
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For what it's worth, McKenzie is already calling for Ouellet to be on the 2nd pairing for team Canada.

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11-10-2012, 09:40 AM
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Love Ouellet... But if he makes it... It will be as a 7th Dmen...
I stand by my point that his overall game makes him Canada's 3rd best D-Man on the Team. I could agree that Morgan Rielly is making a strong case otherwise, but XO is better than Dumba, Reinhart, Ceci, Harrington all-around. Equal to Rielly (but I think is better RIGHT NOW).
How I see it:

Offense:
Murphy
Rielly
Dumba
Ouellet
Hamilton
Reinhart


Defense:
Hamilton
Murray
Harrington
Ouellet
Reinhart
Rielly
Dumba

In my statement, just to be clear, I wasn't talking about potential, although I see some Ryan Suter in XO, he has less potential than all the other D-mam excluding Harrington.

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11-10-2012, 09:42 AM
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What? It was common knowledge among Q observers that Ouellet was the best D coming into this season...

Ouellet has all the tools but his decision making seems suspect from time to time. I think he will need time in the AHL.

He is the kind of D that can play 27-28 minutes a night (well, at the junior level) and will give you great hockey in all three zones, but will make a couple of mistakes/turnovers every game. I guess you just gotta live with it.
On HF, they still didn't see it

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11-10-2012, 09:57 AM
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I stand by my point that his overall game makes him Canada's 3rd best D-Man on the Team. I could agree that Morgan Rielly is making a strong case otherwise, but XO is better than Dumba, Reinhart, Ceci, Harrington all-around. Equal to Rielly (but I think is better RIGHT NOW).
How I see it:

Offense:
Murphy
Rielly
Dumba
Ouellet
Hamilton
Reinhart


Defense:
Hamilton
Murray
Harrington
Ouellet
Reinhart
Rielly
Dumba

In my statement, just to be clear, I wasn't talking about potential, although I see some Ryan Suter in XO, he has less potential than all the other D-mam excluding Harrington.
His upside isn't as big as many others, but your right that right now he's around the 3rd best defenseman. Even though I'm based because I like XO, there is definitely an argument there.

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11-10-2012, 10:00 AM
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I stand by my point that his overall game makes him Canada's 3rd best D-Man on the Team. I could agree that Morgan Rielly is making a strong case otherwise, but XO is better than Dumba, Reinhart, Ceci, Harrington all-around. Equal to Rielly (but I think is better RIGHT NOW).
How I see it:

Offense:
Murphy
Rielly
Dumba
Ouellet
Hamilton
Reinhart


Defense:
Hamilton
Murray
Harrington
Ouellet
Reinhart
Rielly
Dumba

In my statement, just to be clear, I wasn't talking about potential, although I see some Ryan Suter in XO, he has less potential than all the other D-mam excluding Harrington.
I personally think Reinhart is just as good as Rielly( if not better), and you could make an argument for Dumba who has shown great potential in the previous WJC, he was a beast.

I really like Ouellet's game but if I was pegging him in Canada's roster, he would be #7 d-man behind Murray, Hamilton, Reinhart, Rielly, Murphy, and Dumba. Just my take.

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11-10-2012, 10:03 AM
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Biggest kool aid drinkers? Because I think Ouellet is a better prospect then Stuart Percy, who didnt even get an invite to the summer camp?

Youre a leafs fan I'm guessing?
He is an Avs fan, check his post history. And FTR, I agree with you fully, Ouellet is quite a bit better prospect than Percy.

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11-10-2012, 10:04 AM
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I stand by my point that his overall game makes him Canada's 3rd best D-Man on the Team. I could agree that Morgan Rielly is making a strong case otherwise, but XO is better than Dumba, Reinhart, Ceci, Harrington all-around. Equal to Rielly (but I think is better RIGHT NOW).
How I see it:

Offense:
Murphy
Rielly
Dumba
Ouellet
Hamilton
Reinhart


Defense:
Hamilton
Murray
Harrington
Ouellet
Reinhart
Rielly
Dumba

In my statement, just to be clear, I wasn't talking about potential, although I see some Ryan Suter in XO, he has less potential than all the other D-mam excluding Harrington.
This year hes better offensively then Dumba but I wouldnt put him above Dougie Hamilton offensively. I agree hes definitely better then the 7th dman on the team this year, even if there is still a lockout.

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11-10-2012, 10:25 AM
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It's amazing how we're arguing if Ouellet or Dumba or etc. should make the team... The defense is so stacked haha

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It's amazing how we're arguing if Ouellet or Dumba or etc. should make the team... The defense is so stacked haha
It's amusing how were arguing a late 2nd rounder vs a bunch of top picks.

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11-10-2012, 10:56 AM
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I stand by my point that his overall game makes him Canada's 3rd best D-Man on the Team. I could agree that Morgan Rielly is making a strong case otherwise, but XO is better than Dumba, Reinhart, Ceci, Harrington all-around. Equal to Rielly (but I think is better RIGHT NOW).
How I see it:

Offense:
Murphy
Rielly
Dumba
Ouellet
Hamilton
Reinhart


Defense:
Hamilton
Murray
Harrington
Ouellet
Reinhart
Rielly
Dumba

In my statement, just to be clear, I wasn't talking about potential, although I see some Ryan Suter in XO, he has less potential than all the other D-mam excluding Harrington.
To be honest I don't think Ouellet is better than most of these guys right now. He certainly isnt better than Hamilton offensively... no way. Defensively you might have a point.. I think he brings more to the table than a guy like Harrington.. Ouellet is pretty solid in all department of the game.. and Murphy certainly didn't impress anyone on Thursday night... I don't think Murphy makes it

I think Ouellet makes it as a 7th guy

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11-10-2012, 11:02 AM
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I see it as this:
Murray-Hamilton
Reinhart-Dumba
Harrington-Ouellet
Reilly


I know, I know Murphy....

It's possible but I'm not sure I'd take him.

Ceci makes a strong case too... It's tough.

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11-10-2012, 11:11 AM
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I see it as this:
Murray-Hamilton
Reinhart-Dumba
Harrington-Ouellet
Reilly


I know, I know Murphy....

It's possible but I'm not sure I'd take him.

Ceci makes a strong case too... It's tough.
Switch Rielly with Dumba for sure. Rielly might be the best offensive one of that bunch, definitely better offensively then Dumba.

I think Murphy gets the seventh spot and is used for the PP but the guy is a liabiility in his own zone, I've been saying it all season/summer. Some will disagree but I think Rielly's play this year coupled with other strong 2 way players (Hamilton, Ouellet) who can play D and provide similar offense will possibly mean no Murphy in the line up that often

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Murray-Hamilton
Reinhart-Rielly
Dumba-Ouellet
Harrington

Ouellet will make it as the #5 or #6 Dman. A Rielly-Ouellet second pairing also looks appealing so it's hard to say.

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I havent seen Reinhart so how good is his defensive game? Is he on Murrays level in his own zone?

I can tell he isnt that great offensively compared to most of the other guys. I just see most people have him as a lock in their top 4 while he hasnt produced offense at all this year. I cant see 2 guys like Harrington and Reinhart who both are hard pressed offensively playing every game. I may be wrong though

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In my statement, just to be clear, I wasn't talking about potential, although I see some Ryan Suter in XO, he has less potential than all the other D-mam excluding Harrington.
you can't be serious.

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you can't be serious.
Please explain what is wrong with that comparison, he is a Ryan Suter type dman. And yes, im serious.

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Aren't you guys leaving out a half a dozen or so guys that should be in the conversation, like Pouliot, for example.

If both Rielly and Murray are on the team, Ouellet has virtually no chance of making the team.

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