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11-10-2012, 07:53 PM
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Dallas does this easily.

Hell, take out one of Kulemin/Bozak and we'd still do this. I'd rather have Kulemin to fill that hole on the 3rd line.
Hey me too Helluva 3rd liner.

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11-10-2012, 07:57 PM
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Seems best for the Stars. Not a fan of Morrow in his current state.

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11-10-2012, 07:59 PM
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Well, its a first (which will be higher w Luo) swapped for a 2nd
And this proposal is hardly far from what many level-headed leafans have agreed is in the realm of fair for Luo ...but whatever ....maybe he'll go for Komi and a 4th. Nux should be so lucky, eh?
Why are Canucks fans so defensive? All I said was that the Leafs would not give up this much for Luongo, there's no need to act immature about it.

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There's a catch-all Luongo thread for a reason. Please keep it together!

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11-10-2012, 08:04 PM
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I'm not sure how you see Edler and Phaneuf as a wash? Edler is a year younger, better production.
Phaneuf is better defensively, offensively they're a wash with Edler only scoring 5 more points on a much more potent offense.

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11-10-2012, 08:08 PM
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What about:

To Leafs: Luongo
To Canucks: Morrow, Dallas 1st
To Stars: Kadri, Bozak, TO 2nd

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11-10-2012, 08:09 PM
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What about:

To Leafs: Luongo
To Canucks: Morrow, Dallas 1st
To Stars: Kadri, Bozak, TO 2nd
Stars say no.

Take out the 1st, give the 2nd to Vancouver and take out Kadri and I'd do it.

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11-10-2012, 08:22 PM
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Stars say no.

Take out the 1st, give the 2nd to Vancouver and take out Kadri and I'd do it.
So something like:

To Dallas: Bozak
To Toronto: Luongo
To Vancouver: Morrow, Kadri, TO 2nd

Eh. I don't think I'd do it. Morrow and Kadri are both huge question marks.

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11-10-2012, 08:40 PM
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So something like:

To Dallas: Bozak
To Toronto: Luongo
To Vancouver: Morrow, Kadri, TO 2nd

Eh. I don't think I'd do it. Morrow and Kadri are both huge question marks.
Would prefer Kulemin, but yes.

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11-10-2012, 08:44 PM
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Would prefer Kulemin, but yes.
So Kuli Kadri and a 2nd...i'm good with it.

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11-10-2012, 08:46 PM
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So something like:

To Dallas: Bozak
To Toronto: Luongo
To Vancouver: Morrow, Kadri, TO 2nd

Eh. I don't think I'd do it. Morrow and Kadri are both huge question marks.
I think they may be a lil too much for Luongo. (Bozak, Kadri, 2nd)
Vancouver makes out like bandits.

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11-10-2012, 08:50 PM
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So Kuli Kadri and a 2nd...i'm good with it.
I'd rather take that than involve Dallas, tbh. I'd prefer Kulemin to Morrow(and I guess Dallas fans feel the same).

But I still have hope that whatever the package is it will include a 1st.

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11-10-2012, 09:58 PM
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Third times a charm???


To Vancouver:
Connolly (salary dump, but needed C)
MacArthur
Kadri
Franson
2nd

To Toronto:
Lapierre
Raymond (mini salary dump, still servicable)
Ballard (salary dump)
Luongo

???

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To TO: Luongo, Van 2nd
To Ana: Bozak, Kadri, TO 1st, Van 1st, Raymond or Ballard if you want either
To Van: Perry, Ana 3rd

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11-10-2012, 10:01 PM
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Third times a charm???


To Vancouver:
Connolly (salary dump, but needed C)
MacArthur
Kadri
Franson
2nd

To Toronto:
Lapierre
Raymond (mini salary dump, still servicable)
Ballard (salary dump)
Luongo

???
So a quantity offer w a bunch of pieces that posters have repeatedly said are of little use to Van....for Luo plus other good pieces we have need for...?

Quantity for quantity + quality
. ..doesnt work


Breaking it down ....

Raymond = McArthur
Ballard>Franson
Lapierre>Connolly
Luongo>>Kadri + 2nd

Honestly, i wouldnt take that pkg for Luongo alone, those pieces just dont help us

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11-10-2012, 10:07 PM
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Third times a charm???


To Vancouver:
Connolly (salary dump, but needed C)
MacArthur
Kadri
Franson
2nd

To Toronto:
Lapierre
Raymond (mini salary dump, still servicable)
Ballard (salary dump)
Luongo

???
Take out McArthur and add Kulemin and I would consider that for Luongo only.

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11-10-2012, 10:10 PM
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So a quantity offer w a bunch of pieces that posters have repeatedly said are of little use to Van....for Luo plus other good pieces we have need for...?

Quantity for quantity + quality
. ..doesnt work


Breaking it down ....

Raymond = McArthur
Ballard>Franson
Lapierre>Connolly
Luongo>>Kadri + 2nd
My interpretation...

MacArthur > Raymond
Connolly > Ballard (because Ballard still has 3yrs left on his contract)
Franson = Lapierre (only because Franson remains unsigned)
Kadri + 2nd = Luongo (only due to his albatross of a contract)


MacArthur, Kadri, 2nd aren't quantity. They are quality assets.
Franson is a throw in only because he remains unsigned.
Connolly IMO is a salary dump.

IMO going the other way, Raymond and Ballard are salary dumps, and to some extent, so is Luongo. Lapierre is a utility player.

So with all that being said, who is giving quality for quantity? You guys had it backwards.

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11-10-2012, 10:27 PM
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Luongo for Gardiner, 1st or Lupal, Bozak, 2nd.

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11-10-2012, 10:54 PM
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Luongo for Gardiner, 1st or Lupal, Bozak, 2nd.
1st proposal is a best case scenario and not at all likely.

2nd proposal gives us two pending UFAs (Rentals) and a pick. Easily no unless Lupul came with a pre negotiated extension.

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11-10-2012, 11:00 PM
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My interpretation...

MacArthur > Raymond
Connolly > Ballard (because Ballard still has 3yrs left on his contract)
Franson = Lapierre (only because Franson remains unsigned)
Kadri + 2nd = Luongo (only due to his albatross of a contract)


MacArthur, Kadri, 2nd aren't quantity. They are quality assets.
Franson is a throw in only because he remains unsigned.
Connolly IMO is a salary dump.

IMO going the other way, Raymond and Ballard are salary dumps, and to some extent, so is Luongo. Lapierre is a utility player.

So with all that being said, who is giving quality for quantity? You guys had it backwards.
Over value Leaf players much?
Connolly is terrible, he couldn't produce when gifted first line minutes with Kessel
Mac just doesn't fit here when we have Raymond as a comparable.
Franson could have been had for Raymond two off seasons ago. Not an upgrade on any of our depth D save for maybe Alberts.
And let's trade an All Star quality goaltender for a kid on his 3rd AHL season who can't even produce there? Really? And a 2nd is the difference between them? I have to LoL again.

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11-10-2012, 11:11 PM
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Luongo for Gardiner, 1st or Lupal, Bozak, 2nd.
I don't know what to say to that first prospal it's so bad

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11-10-2012, 11:43 PM
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Luongo for Gardiner, 2nd or Lupal, Bozak, 1st.

fixed

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Luongo for Gardiner, 2nd or Lupal, Bozak, 1st.

fixed
You have a better chance at winning the lottery.

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You have a better chance at winning the lottery.
so do the Leafs, without Luongo.

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so do the Leafs, without Luongo.
No, I mean the real lottery.

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