HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Ottawa Senators
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

This lockout is the best thing for the NHL

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
11-10-2012, 07:08 PM
  #1
Stylizer1
BoomBapOriginalRap
 
Stylizer1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,952
vCash: 50
This lockout is the best thing for the NHL

Lower revenues means all the bottom feeder teams will have to find new homes. Quebec, Toronto, and maybe Hamilton will all have a better chance at at getting teams. Get rid of the other teams no one cares about and create a stronger, better league.


Last edited by Stylizer1: 11-10-2012 at 11:04 PM.
Stylizer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 07:15 PM
  #2
GK
Not Jeeks
 
GK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Peterborough
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,631
vCash: 500
I was thinking this too, but I can't see Bettman letting that happen.

If it went two years, which some were saying was possible at one point, I bet the league would lose 10 teams.

GK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 07:15 PM
  #3
White Goodman
smell that fitness?
 
White Goodman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Edmonton, AB
Country: England
Posts: 6,320
vCash: 50
I'm happy you think it's best that lots of people have lost jobs.

White Goodman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 07:22 PM
  #4
Stylizer1
BoomBapOriginalRap
 
Stylizer1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,952
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakob Silfverberg View Post
I'm happy you think it's best that lots of people have lost jobs.
That's life.

Maybe the government should just give every unemployed person a job then. That would solve the problem, right?



Stylizer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 07:31 PM
  #5
White Goodman
smell that fitness?
 
White Goodman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Edmonton, AB
Country: England
Posts: 6,320
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stylizer1 View Post
That's life.

Maybe the government should just give every unemployed person a job then. That would solve the problem, right?


Yes.

White Goodman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 08:16 PM
  #6
BK201
Registered User
 
BK201's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,019
vCash: 500
One thing I never got was why doesn't an owner like the guy who owns the panthers move to a place like QC and make monies while these better markets are still available.

BK201 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 08:22 PM
  #7
Stylizer1
BoomBapOriginalRap
 
Stylizer1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,952
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by BK201 View Post
One thing I never got was why doesn't an owner like the guy who owns the panthers move to a place like QC and make monies while these better markets are still available.
Florida has no income tax.

Quebec has very high taxes.

Stylizer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 08:23 PM
  #8
Andre Benoit Bawls
What, Me Worry?
 
Andre Benoit Bawls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 13,170
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by BK201 View Post
One thing I never got was why doesn't an owner like the guy who owns the panthers move to a place like QC and make monies while these better markets are still available.
Massive relocation fees might make it not worth their while. No guarantee a team succeeds there, either.

Andre Benoit Bawls is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 08:25 PM
  #9
BK201
Registered User
 
BK201's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,019
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by The OttoMan Lion View Post
Massive relocation fees might make it not worth their while. No guarantee a team succeeds there, either.
Probably but it's not like a team is succeeding there. How they stay a float is beyond me.

There's still Seattle, Vegas and whatever, all I know is Florida doesn't seem to care.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Stylizer1 View Post
Florida has no income tax.

Quebec has very high taxes.
Hmm didn't know that but still you'd think there's more money not in Florida.

BK201 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 08:35 PM
  #10
FolignoQuantumLeap
A mad Mup
 
FolignoQuantumLeap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: A Blue Box
Country: Canada
Posts: 18,225
vCash: 500
I have a wild conspiracy theory that the true purpose of this lockout is to accomplish what you're suggesting... but I just keep things like that to myself.

FolignoQuantumLeap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 08:41 PM
  #11
Daffy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 558
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stylizer1 View Post
That's life.

Maybe the government should just give every unemployed person a job then. That would solve the problem, right?


I am one person who is without my job with no hockey at SBP. I have another job obviously, but it sure would help. With that said, that was a pretty ignorant comment on you're part.

Daffy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 08:55 PM
  #12
Fenix Rises 2026
Alfie forever!
 
Fenix Rises 2026's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,042
vCash: 500
It's not a strike.

Fenix Rises 2026 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 09:01 PM
  #13
derriko
Registered User
 
derriko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Indianapolis
Country: United States
Posts: 2,945
vCash: 4116
I like how the OP mentions 3 Canadian cities over Seattle, which ive read from a couple "experts" that they are the front runner since the arena has been approved and construction will start once we get an NBA team.

derriko is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 10:44 PM
  #14
Stylizer1
BoomBapOriginalRap
 
Stylizer1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,952
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daffy View Post
I am one person who is without my job with no hockey at SBP. I have another job obviously, but it sure would help. With that said, that was a pretty ignorant comment on you're part.
It wasn't meant as a personal attack. My initial comment was focusing just on Hockey and how to better it. Jakob Silfverberg tried to turn my comment into something it was not.

It's unfortunate people have lost jobs but it is what it is. No job in the world is guaranteed but when hockey does come back so will your job, right?

Now, I think like many people do that contraction would make the league better but before that relocate at least 3 teams back to Canada. The league would only benefit from it. People would lose their jobs but that's no ones fault except for Gary putting teams where they shouldn't be. blame him.

Stylizer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 11:02 PM
  #15
Stylizer1
BoomBapOriginalRap
 
Stylizer1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,952
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by derriko View Post
I like how the OP mentions 3 Canadian cities over Seattle, which ive read from a couple "experts" that they are the front runner since the arena has been approved and construction will start once we get an NBA team.
You basically shot yourself in the foot there. When Seattle gets an NBA team? Meaning The NHL would be behind the NFL, MLB, NBA, and be competing with MLS for revenue streams. It's not like Seattle is in desperate need of an NHL team because fans are demanding it, the owners of the Stadium would like another tenant to generate profits on the NBA's off nights. Big difference.

Hockey would be the number 1 draw in Hamilton, Quebec city, and a close second in toronto. There is no comparison when it comes to the 4 cities in question.

Can Seattle support and NHL team, of course, but are they going to have the revenue streams other Canadian team would have, no.

Stylizer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 11:05 PM
  #16
Stylizer1
BoomBapOriginalRap
 
Stylizer1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,952
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dblad the Impaler View Post
It's not a strike.
my mistake.

Stylizer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 11:26 PM
  #17
HavlatMach9
Registered User
 
HavlatMach9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,545
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stylizer1 View Post
Lower revenues means all the bottom feeder teams will have to find new homes.
Says who?

HavlatMach9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-10-2012, 11:35 PM
  #18
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,549
vCash: 772
Quote:
Originally Posted by BK201 View Post
One thing I never got was why doesn't an owner like the guy who owns the panthers move to a place like QC and make monies while these better markets are still available.
The Panthers make mad money off all the property they own around the arena and what not. No tenant in the rink, no revenue coming in from the other sources which rely on a team there filling the building.

IU Hawks fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-11-2012, 01:06 AM
  #19
BK201
Registered User
 
BK201's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,019
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan View Post
The Panthers make mad money off all the property they own around the arena and what not. No tenant in the rink, no revenue coming in from the other sources which rely on a team there filling the building.
What I'm confused I though like maybe 3000 people a game. So how is this getting more money to things around this place?

BK201 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-11-2012, 01:13 AM
  #20
saskriders
ColinGreening's#1fan
 
saskriders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary/Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,273
vCash: 1322
Quote:
Originally Posted by derriko View Post
I like how the OP mentions 3 Canadian cities over Seattle, which ive read from a couple "experts" that they are the front runner since the arena has been approved and construction will start once we get an NBA team.
We just don't want to loose you as a Sens fan

saskriders is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-11-2012, 01:21 AM
  #21
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,549
vCash: 772
Quote:
Originally Posted by BK201 View Post
What I'm confused I though like maybe 3000 people a game.
3000?

Their average attendance has been over 15,000 since 01-02...

This thread helps explains the Panthers situation better than I can
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...light=panthers


Last edited by IU Hawks fan: 11-11-2012 at 01:29 AM.
IU Hawks fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-11-2012, 02:00 AM
  #22
BK201
Registered User
 
BK201's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,019
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan View Post
3000?

Their average attendance has been over 15,000 since 01-02...

This thread helps explains the Panthers situation better than I can
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...light=panthers
Thanks I'll read through that. Makes sense though as they are still in Florida.

Up here it's rumored that the panthers have trouble giving tickets away let alone having more than a couple thousand fans pay to get it in. Sounds really ignorant especially from a hockey enthusiast but that's what the word is up here.

BK201 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-11-2012, 06:34 AM
  #23
CanadianHockey
Smith - Alfie
 
CanadianHockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: uOttawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 28,670
vCash: 2391
Quote:
Originally Posted by BK201 View Post
One thing I never got was why doesn't an owner like the guy who owns the panthers move to a place like QC and make monies while these better markets are still available.
The Panthers owners also own a ton of real estate (shopping centres) around the BB&T (formerly BankAtlantic) Center. Make a ton of money off those properties that kind of subsidize the costs of the team.

__________________
CanadianHockey________ __ __________Sens, Oilers, and Team Canada
CanadianHockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-11-2012, 06:57 AM
  #24
koreaboy
Registered User
 
koreaboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,673
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan View Post
3000?

Their average attendance has been over 15,000 since 01-02...

This thread helps explains the Panthers situation better than I can
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...light=panthers
"announced" attendance is often very different from "real" attendance. there are nowhere near 15,000 a game in that building.

koreaboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-11-2012, 08:26 AM
  #25
TeamRenzo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 773
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by koreaboy View Post
"announced" attendance is often very different from "real" attendance. there are nowhere near 15,000 a game in that building.
A lot of the people in attendance receive tickets at either a discounted rate or given away as part of a local promotion.

TeamRenzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:08 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.