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10-26-2012, 09:31 AM
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What the heck are you talking about? Petgrave is a smart defender who isn't afraid to take the put and go end to end. I'm pretty sure he won the Memorial Cup with the Attack as well. Oshawa hasn't had a GOOD defense men let alone one that can take the puck and go since Calvin De Haan. Schemitsch is very inconsistent but Petgrave is very good. Uviraw? Really? I went to every Oshawa Generals game on Sunday last year and Uviraw didn't absolutely nothing. I've been watching the Gennies for the past three years and the first season I started attending was Sullentrops first year on D. Over the past THREE seasons Sullentrop has stayed the same. THE SAME. He hasn't improved, and he hasn't gotten worst. Hes stayed the same... I'm just a little curious, have you actually seen these players play a full 60 minutes?
Listen buddy...I am a season ticket holder and have watched the Gens for over 30 years.
I never classified Uvira as anything as it was asked where he was and I responded. My opinion and most in my section of Petgrave is yes he can move the puck but makes dumb decisions more than not. I also stated the to date this year Brown and Sully have been more reliable. Dude it is my opinion and I will state it and don't have to justify to you as I have seen your comments on here and I am pretty sure you don't know very much about the game you just like to hear yourself and pick other people apart. Have fun with that

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10-26-2012, 10:05 AM
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I'm pretty sure he won the Memorial Cup with the Attack as well.
Really?


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10-26-2012, 10:33 AM
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I've been saying this from before he got into the league, and yet all the Kitchener fans are ready to ship him out. Management knows his capability, solid defensemen.
No we know all to well how good he is and can be. Problem is, and what you're ignoring, is that Management isnt playing enough.

I'd sit Hanes and go with

Murphy - Iafrate
McEneny - Fanelli
Gilbert - Genovese

But that has happened maybe twice this season (they looked great btw).

In order to garner the top defensive d-man that this team needs to adequetly compete for a league championship, Gilbert will most certainly be a piece included in the deal. Not because he sucks, but because he is really good.

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10-28-2012, 01:20 AM
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What the heck are you talking about? Petgrave is a smart defender who isn't afraid to take the put and go end to end. I'm pretty sure he won the Memorial Cup with the Attack as well. Oshawa hasn't had a GOOD defense men let alone one that can take the puck and go since Calvin De Haan. Schemitsch is very inconsistent but Petgrave is very good. Uviraw? Really? I went to every Oshawa Generals game on Sunday last year and Uviraw didn't absolutely nothing. I've been watching the Gennies for the past three years and the first season I started attending was Sullentrops first year on D. Over the past THREE seasons Sullentrop has stayed the same. THE SAME. He hasn't improved, and he hasn't gotten worst. Hes stayed the same... I'm just a little curious, have you actually seen these players play a full 60 minutes?
Relax man. I'm also a seasons ticket holder and everything he said was true. Petgrave is a good d man but is really careless. I've seen him cough the puck up so many times, sometimes giving breakaways on the PP. A lot of people sitting around me say they think hes great, but man he gives me a heart attack sometimes when he has the puck

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10-28-2012, 01:19 PM
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Relax man. I'm also a seasons ticket holder and everything he said was true. Petgrave is a good d man but is really careless. I've seen him cough the puck up so many times, sometimes giving breakaways on the PP. A lot of people sitting around me say they think hes great, but man he gives me a heart attack sometimes when he has the puck
The other guy made him sound like he was terrible. I get a bit nervous myself when I see him carry the puck at times but most of the times I've watched him playe he's played well. I was shocked when I seen him take the puck and go when we first acquired him last season. I hadn't seen an Oshawa defense man do that in ages. He joins in on the rush, plays well in his own end and isn't afraid to take the puck and go. Oshawa hasn't had one of these guys in years. Get your head out of your butt.


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The other guy made him sound like he was terrible. I get a bit nervous myself when I see him carry the puck at times but most of the times I've watched him playe he's played well. I was shocked when I seen him take the puck and go when we first acquired him last season. I hadn't seen an Oshawa defense man do that in ages. He joins in on the rush, plays well in his own end and isn't afraid to take the puck and go. Oshawa hasn't had one of these guys in years. Get your head out of your butt.
Get your head out of your butt and do some research. Do you remember Calvin De Haan and Michael Del Zotto? Those guys put up numbers that would put Petgrave to shame

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11-08-2012, 01:58 PM
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Surprise:
Micheal Moffat Kingston Frontenacs. He is near a point per game and is playing solid defensively.

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Surprise- Mississauga Steelheads. They are supposed to be in a rebuilding stage, and they are practically leading the East. Great core of 6 dmen and great goaltending from Martin. Steal getting Smoskovitz out of Barrie. James Boyd should be appreciated and acknowledged alot more.

Guelph, a close 2nd.

Disappointments-Peterborough, Sudbury and Ottawa so far. I think more has to do with management and player evaluations than with players.

Hopefully Oshawa can go along way this year with their new coach, and GM. Hopefully they play for the front of their jersey, and not the back of their jersey.

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Surprise - Evan McEneny for the Rangers,no idea where he came from but has been by far the best player on the ice in the 2 games I have seen him play.
Dissapointment - Eckblad for the Colts, just because he has not lived up to the hype.

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Surprise - Evan McEneny for the Rangers,no idea where he came from but has been by far the best player on the ice in the 2 games I have seen him play.
Dissapointment - Eckblad for the Colts, just because he has not lived up to the hype.
16 points in 20 games in what is essentially his rookie season. All ready has an OHL rookie of a year award. Will easily surpass his 29 points from last year and is a plus 7. I think he's done more than enough to live up to it.

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Surprise - Evan McEneny for the Rangers,no idea where he came from but has been by far the best player on the ice in the 2 games I have seen him play.
I understand him being a surprise for fans from other teams but I think 100% of Rangers realized how big of a blow
it was to the team last year when he was injured in the 3rd game and missed the entire season.
IMHO he would have been a real solid 2nd round NHL pick and may have moved into the 1st round.

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Surprise the play of the Kingston rookie line of Watson,Spencer and Ikonen. If they stay together in a couple of years top line in the OHL

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Thought this was a good place for this.

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My opinion of the most improved players this year.

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I understand him being a surprise for fans from other teams but I think 100% of Rangers realized how big of a blow
it was to the team last year when he was injured in the 3rd game and missed the entire season.
IMHO he would have been a real solid 2nd round NHL pick and may have moved into the 1st round.
Thank you Gillis

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Surprise the play of the Kingston rookie line of Watson,Spencer and Ikonen. If they stay together in a couple of years top line in the OHL
I said it last year that Sam Bennett on the Marlies was the REAL DEAL, and most bloggers said that it was all due to McDavid.

Bennett has already taken over #1 ctre in Kingston over Kujawinski, and his line with Watson and Ikonen have definitely been opening up alot of eyes.


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Dissapointment - Eckblad for the Colts, just because he has not lived up to the hype.
Good call. The kid hasn't done much.

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I said it last year that Sam Bennett on the Marlies was the REAL DEAL, and most bloggers said that it was all due to McDavid.

Bennett has already taken over #1 ctre in Kingston over Kujawinski, and his line with Watson and Ikonen have definitely been opening up alot of eyes.
I've always liked Bennett as well, its good to see him producing so early into his OHL career.

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Surprise - Evan McEneny for the Rangers,no idea where he came from but has been by far the best player on the ice in the 2 games I have seen him play.
Dissapointment - Eckblad for the Colts, just because he has not lived up to the hype.
Ekblad is not a points guy, points do compliment his game. That's why I tell people stats aren't everything. He is very poised and positionally sound in the games I've seen him this year. He does the little things so well which is why he is so effective. Personally I don't think he's been disappointing by any means, yes he needs to bring it on a more consistent basis but most young players struggle with that. He has not looked out of place for a young guy.

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I said it last year that Sam Bennett on the Marlies was the REAL DEAL, and most bloggers said that it was all due to McDavid.

Bennett has already taken over #1 ctre in Kingston over Kujawinski, and his line with Watson and Ikonen have definitely been opening up alot of eyes.
I think Watson was the steal of the draft so far. Being a second round pick look at the numbers he has put up so far. The rookie line is the most exciting line in recent history for the Frontenacs and this is still their first year. Kujawinski needs a winger who can feed him the puck better than Jenkins, having a player like that and Kingston would be pretty dangerous.

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Ekblad is not a points guy, points do compliment his game. That's why I tell people stats aren't everything. He is very poised and positionally sound in the games I've seen him this year. He does the little things so well which is why he is so effective. Personally I don't think he's been disappointing by any means, yes he needs to bring it on a more consistent basis but most young players struggle with that. He has not looked out of place for a young guy.
Sorry but Ekblad has been put in a position to be a points guy and if he does not get them then he is not doing what they need. He is on every PP so this is what is required of him.

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I think Watson was the steal of the draft so far. Being a second round pick look at the numbers he has put up so far. The rookie line is the most exciting line in recent history for the Frontenacs and this is still their first year. Kujawinski needs a winger who can feed him the puck better than Jenkins, having a player like that and Kingston would be pretty dangerous.
Cant disagree with you. I felt that Watson was the purest goal scorer last year.

I agree that Kujawinski needs a goal scorer on his line, but it may be difficult to pick one up via trade, as all good goal scorers will go to contenders.

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Sorry but Ekblad has been put in a position to be a points guy and if he does not get them then he is not doing what they need. He is on every PP so this is what is required of him.
The most important stat you should be looking at is his +7 rating.

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Sorry but Ekblad has been put in a position to be a points guy and if he does not get them then he is not doing what they need. He is on every PP so this is what is required of him.
Have you looked at defencemen scoring.Ekblad is 3 pts. behind Ceci & Pelech, 2 behind Finn & Maatta,1 behind DeMelo,Moffat & Corrado. He started out slow but is now on a 12 game pt. streak. Not bad for a 16 year old.

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Have you looked at defencemen scoring.Ekblad is 3 pts. behind Ceci & Pelech, 2 behind Finn & Maatta,1 behind DeMelo,Moffat & Corrado. He started out slow but is now on a 12 game pt. streak. Not bad for a 16 year old.
Roland Mckewoen of the Frontenacs is only 3 points behind Eckblad also 16 years old but the difference is this is Mckewoens rookie year. At this point he could definatley surpass Eckblad points wise.

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Roland Mckewoen of the Frontenacs is only 3 points behind Eckblad also 16 years old but the difference is this is Mckewoens rookie year. At this point he could definatley surpass Eckblad points wise.
Of course one is a +8 and the other is a -6... Given that they are defencemen, defensive play should probably come into the equation...

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