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11-12-2012, 08:42 PM
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Holy ****, who was that pass from?

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Great to see Nichushkin is trusted to be on the ice in the last minute, as one of only two 1995 born players on Russia (Zykov being the other, but he's only playing the Q games).

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Nichushkin has been impressive in my eyes. Very fast it seems and knows where to go.
Meh, he looks the same as he always does.

Big, fast, and strong but tunnel vision with the puck.
He has zero willingness to share the puck with his teammates and wants to run the same play every time.
If he's stopped, he seems to like to find the worst spot on the ice to shoot from and shoots just to shoot rather than thinking about making a play.

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11-12-2012, 08:50 PM
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Although Tolchinsky is tiny, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up the best Russian forward from this draft.

Agree with the criticisms of Nichushkin.

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Wait, is this live?

There was like a 1 minute intermission unless I'm high

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Great to see Nichushkin is trusted to be on the ice in the last minute, as one of only two 1995 born players on Russia (Zykov being the other, but he's only playing the Q games).
Buchnevich would've been there but is injured.

He's the best Russian 1995 forward at the moment imo.

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11-12-2012, 08:57 PM
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Wait, is this live?

There was like a 1 minute intermission unless I'm high
So it wasn't just me.

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Meh, he looks the same as he always does.

Big, fast, and strong but tunnel vision with the puck.
He has zero willingness to share the puck with his teammates and wants to run the same play every time.
If he's stopped, he seems to like to find the worst spot on the ice to shoot from and shoots just to shoot rather than thinking about making a play.
Totally agree, great tools. Not sure of on ice IQ thou.

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11-12-2012, 08:59 PM
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Wait, is this live?

There was like a 1 minute intermission unless I'm high
They only have 1 min intermission in the CHL.
Seriously the game must be on delay in the US.

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11-12-2012, 09:05 PM
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They only have 1 min intermission in the CHL.
Seriously the game must be on delay in the US.
It is.
They showed the HHOF ceremony first and this game on two hour tape delay.

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11-12-2012, 10:13 PM
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Q vs Russia went 1-1 right?

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11-12-2012, 10:13 PM
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^ Every is tied at 2-2.

Russia suffered from too many passing in prime scoring chances and majority of their passes looked half*** or lazy.

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11-12-2012, 10:13 PM
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people are seriously too down on strome. he is a good player. played well in all aspects of his game. his defensive game is much shinier this year than it ever was.

i hear "strome is sooo overrated" all the time. obviously its working for the ohl in the moment.

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11-12-2012, 10:23 PM
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people are seriously too down on strome. he is a good player. played well in all aspects of his game. his defensive game is much shinier this year than it ever was.

i hear "strome is sooo overrated" all the time. obviously its working for the ohl in the moment.
He's really good, but I doubt he can translate his playing in the NHL.

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11-12-2012, 10:27 PM
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people are seriously too down on strome. he is a good player. played well in all aspects of his game. his defensive game is much shinier this year than it ever was.

i hear "strome is sooo overrated" all the time. obviously its working for the ohl in the moment.
As of right now his skating is going to hold him back big time. If he can improve that, who knows.

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11-12-2012, 10:39 PM
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This was an Ontario penalty party. A procession of Russians to the penalty box, especially for the last half of the game. Not that Russia played well - they stunk - but Canada didn't play that well either. They were motivated, because they were under pressure to prove something to the fans and the public, and they may have outgrinded the Russians, but they didn't outplay them. The Ontario referees deserve credit for the win, and I'm sure they'll be duly rewarded.

My guess, there will be a lot more players from the Quebec league than from Ontario at the WJC. The Quebec league was significantly faster, more skilled, and much better finishers than the guys from Ontario. The guys from Ontario were bigger and got in a few more hits, but that tactic is very counterproductive on a large ice surface, especially if you're not that fast. It will be interesting to see whether the Western League is better than Ontario.

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11-12-2012, 10:42 PM
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Wow Leivo where did that speed come from?
The defenseman in his path fell down, and he just walked past him.

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11-12-2012, 10:58 PM
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This was an Ontario penalty party. A procession of Russians to the penalty box, especially for the last half of the game. Not that Russia played well - they stunk - but Canada didn't play that well either. They were motivated, because they were under pressure to prove something to the fans and the public, and they may have outgrinded the Russians, but they didn't outplay them. The Ontario referees deserve credit for the win, and I'm sure they'll be duly rewarded.

My guess, there will be a lot more players from the Quebec league than from Ontario at the WJC. The Quebec league was significantly faster, more skilled, and much better finishers than the guys from Ontario. The guys from Ontario were bigger and got in a few more hits, but that tactic is very counterproductive on a large ice surface, especially if you're not that fast. It will be interesting to see whether the Western League is better than Ontario.
QMJHL top lin in second game will be the best line put together in all these games, including whatever Russia put together.. Other than that line the q didnt have much at all. Agreed OHL didnt look great but they very well should have won both games and id call you ignorant if you think otherwise.
also GTFO out with reffing bologna, you cant not call delay of game shots over boards and blatant trips on the puck carrier. Russia was out gunned out hustled and out performed

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11-12-2012, 11:03 PM
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This was an Ontario penalty party. A procession of Russians to the penalty box, especially for the last half of the game. Not that Russia played well - they stunk - but Canada didn't play that well either. They were motivated, because they were under pressure to prove something to the fans and the public, and they may have outgrinded the Russians, but they didn't outplay them. The Ontario referees deserve credit for the win, and I'm sure they'll be duly rewarded.

My guess, there will be a lot more players from the Quebec league than from Ontario at the WJC. The Quebec league was significantly faster, more skilled, and much better finishers than the guys from Ontario. The guys from Ontario were bigger and got in a few more hits, but that tactic is very counterproductive on a large ice surface, especially if you're not that fast. It will be interesting to see whether the Western League is better than Ontario.
Which penalties were bad calls?

I thought the Russian team played tired and lazy....

And possibly unlucky as one of the tripping calls was a Canadian stepping on the blade or a Russians stick, I didn't think there were any bad calls.

Russia was just flat and uninspired.

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11-12-2012, 11:47 PM
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1-0 for the OHL after one .

Don't let the score fool you though, it's more indicative of the biased reffing then anything the O has done. 2 penalties for Russia and one for Canada......how is that fair?

Turn that around and Russia is probably winning 4-0 by now imo.
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11-13-2012, 12:09 AM
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Which penalties were bad calls?

I thought the Russian team played tired and lazy....

And possibly unlucky as one of the tripping calls was a Canadian stepping on the blade or a Russians stick, I didn't think there were any bad calls.

Russia was just flat and uninspired.
Well, they didnt call the boarding penalty on Wilson for one. There were others. The refs were clearly biased and Im a Canadian.

Ontario didnt score on the pp, but it also took twelve minutes off the clock where Russia could have scored. Some of the calls that went against Russia were completely ignored when the roles were reversed.

Reminds me of Euro reffing in international tournaments when Canada is the foreign team. The only thing more oft putting than that is reading through the posts here with people ignoring/denying it.

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Its obvious that neither Grigorenko or Yakupov are on a Tarasenko or Kuznetsov level.

Its guys like Tara and Kuz that this team needs....a player who steps up and takes over when needed.
Based on...? Grigorenko got a combined 20 minutes of ice time between both games he played and still managed to be one of the best players on the ice for one of them. Also, Tarsenko and Kuznetsov are older, so obviously they're going to be more polished.

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I was impressed with his game. He plays a pro style game, his feet are always moving along the boards and he wins a lot of battles. Doesn't have big upside I don't think, but I think he's a guy who could carve out a respectable career...I took a liking to him...

is he physical?

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Just look at those tools <3 very mobile, good vision, great first pass, hard shot, poised, good stick and good positionally. A lot there.


you forgot the most important thing in hockey: grit. dude got zero grit.

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11-13-2012, 03:30 AM
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you forgot the most important thing in hockey: grit. dude got zero grit.
Grit is definitely not the most important thing in hockey...

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