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11-13-2012, 06:56 PM
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everyone over at the marlins board is pissed about Emilio Bonifacio coming our way apparently, strange.. lol seemed like it was a throw in to me at the beginning!

and we get to keep JPA! this is niceeee!

I am sad to see Escobar go, he really turned it around when he was here (except for that outburst last season). I am hoping Reyes will be better than last season and JJ will not get injuried (his W/L looks kinda bad last year though)

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Miami Marlins Receive:
Henderson Alvarez, RHP
Yunel Escobar, SS
Adeiny Hechavarria, 2B/SS
Justin Nicolino, LHP
Jake Marisnick, OF
Jeff Mathis, C

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Honestly, the Marins may draw less than 1000 people per game. That roster is in shambles, and if I was a Marlins fan, I'd be pissed.
If I was a Marlins fan I'd find another team to cheer for or give up baseball right now. I mean, this is just obscene ownership.

Also Bonifacio is quite good. Has a ton of speed, has an acceptable walk rate and can play 2B/SS/CF. He's pretty much Jose Reyes lite and he's affordable for the next two years.

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I wonder who starts opening night... they could go with Morrow since he has ace stuff and he was our best pitcher last season... They could go with JJ because he's arguably the best pitcher of the bunch and is considered an ace by some... Or they could go with Burhlhe because he's the most consistent and he's a veteran. If Romero bounces back this rotation is elite

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Lol no. Buehrle is more consistent, but Johnson & Morrow are both better than him. 2011 Romero would've been too. Realistically the rotation is:

Johnson
Morrow
Buehrle
Romero
Happ

right now.
Awesome deal for the jays. Romero is now our # 4 pitcher, and we pick up a shortstop who can be one of the best in the league. The Jays just became a potential contender overnight. AA's methodical accumulation of talent is paying off; he didn't panic and waited to make the right move. The Jays now have a nice blend of youth and experience, I can't wait for next season.

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Could Buck be on the move? Or JP?

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If I was a Marlins fan I'd find another team to cheer for or give up baseball right now. I mean, this is just obscene ownership.
Miami fans don't owe their team a shred of loyalty right now, this is an obscene, unheard of level of abandonment.

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So lineup as of now:

Reyes SS
Davis/Gose LF
Bautista RF
Encarnacion DH
Lawrie 3B
Lind 1B
Rasmus CF
JPA/Buck/TDA C
Itzuris/Bonafacio 2B

Johnson SP
Morrow SP
Buerhle SP
Romero SP
Happ SP

Santos RP
Janssen RP
Lincoln RP
Rogers RP
Oliver RP
Delabar RP

That is a stupidly well rounded team. It's not missing much in terms of needs. Josh Johnson gives us an ace. Reyes a legit lead off hitter.

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You gotta think JP + Lind in another deal for a first baseman.

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I am not familiar with MLB players around league as I am with NHL. I hear this is a great trade for the Jays.

Can someone give a hypothetical NHL trade that this would compare to? I know this is a very different league, with different player value, etc. but it would help understand the scope of the trade. Thanks.

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So apparently the marlins are sending us some money too? Not alot tho.

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C Arencibia, Buck
1B Lind
2B Izturis
SS Reyes
3B Lawrie
RF Bautista
CF Rasmus
LF Gose

Johnson
Buerhle
Morrow
Romero
Happ


No complaints from me.
Funny how many people are happy with this and only 1 person caught that EE was missing...wait until people see that! :lol

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Anyone want to give us their best shot at the new lineup/batting order?

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The Marlins are chipping in $4MM in the trade and right-hander Anthony DeSclafani will be a part of the trade, a source tells Juan C. Rodriguez of the Sun-Sentinel (via Twitter).

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11-13-2012, 06:59 PM
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we had DeScalfani before
what the....

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Josh Johnson is my dream trade.
Looks like dreams do come true

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Does anyone know if AA is going to adress the media when the deal is confirmed?

Is he going to schedule a press conference?

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and I can't believe this keeps needing to be restated: JP Arencibia at 1B is a terrible, awful, completely undefendable move. The fact that he's a godawful hitter outside of HRs is forgivable when he's a catcher because like 90% of MLB catchers are godawful hitters who don't have his power. But if you moved him to 1B, he suddenly becomes almost the single worst hitting 1B in the league with middling power for the position. And no defence.
Justin Smoak.

And if Arencibia isn't trade/we don't sign a new DH, would you rather have Cooper/Sierra DHing?

Anyways, the more likely scenario is D'Arnaud plays 1B and is weaned on catcher and seeing if Arencibia can improve his hitting. What if Arencibia hits .250/.310/.485 next season? It might be a good idea to keep him, his value won't go down, and if it goes up great if not no harm done. And it's better to wean D'Arnaud at 1B/DH/C than throwing him the starting job with not MLB experience.

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So lineup as of now:

Reyes SS
Davis/Gose LF
Bautista RF
Encarnacion DH
Lawrie 3B
Lind 1B
Rasmus CF
JPA/Buck/TDA C
Itzuris/Bonafacio 2B

Johnson SP
Morrow SP
Buerhle SP
Romero SP
Happ SP

Santos RP
Janssen RP
Lincoln RP
Rogers RP
Oliver RP
Delabar RP

That is a stupidly well rounded team. It's not missing much in terms of needs. Josh Johnson gives us an ace. Reyes a legit lead off hitter.

This is what has me pumped up the most, it's not the other players aren't great but we have been missing that since Doc left...my good god can you imagine if Morrow is coming back as well??? To an ace like form, yeesh.

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Remember the Joe Thornton to San Jose trade? Thornton to SJ for Sturm, Brad Stuart, and Wayne Primeau?

Well, imagine that, but if the Bruins also threw in Chara (who they didn't have yet, but let's ignore that fact) and Patrice Bergeron (pre-injuries) and the Sharks only had to add Alyn McCauley and prospects outside their top 5.

That's kind of what it's like.
Oh my god, that is ridiculous.

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@ShiDavidi: So #Jays now have roughly $115m in payroll commitments for 2013, headed for $120m once 0-3 service-time players factored in

Wow. 120M payroll. Bet this will get tons of critcism off their backs. Totally love this deal for the Jays. Gives them an option to deal JPA a lot more easily now too.

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AA needs to make another trade or 2 just to sort out the excess hehe

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Does anyone know if AA is going to adress the media when the deal is confirmed?

Is he going to schedule a press conference?
You're kidding right? lol of course he will.

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So, no sanchez.

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