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Dougie Hamilton vs Morgan Rielly

View Poll Results: Who would you take?
Dougie Hamilton 316 64.23%
Morgan Rielly 138 28.05%
too close to call 38 7.72%
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11-13-2012, 10:58 PM
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Dougie Hamilton vs Morgan Rielly

Who would you rather have going forward? and who do you think will end up as the better d-man?

Please share your opinions on why you made the choice.

Leafs and Bruins fans, I would be pleased if u guys would refrain from voting.

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11-13-2012, 11:00 PM
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Dougie Hamilton has more capability to be a game breaker, imo. Max upsides I'm thinking Karlsson vs Chara. I'd rather have Hamilton for the added physicality/size that would be more effective in the playoffs.

Plus he showed good chemistry with Corrado at the subway series, so another plus for him, at least for me.

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11-13-2012, 11:02 PM
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Dougy but verrry close. Seems like he plays a good defensive game and has size to. Rielly is tearing up the dub tho, cant go wrong with either. AINEC should not show up in this poll

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Dougie Hamilton has more capability to be a game breaker, imo. Max upsides I'm thinking Karlsson vs Chara. I'd rather have Hamilton for the added physicality/size that would be more effective in the playoffs.

Plus he showed good chemistry with Corrado at the subway series, so another plus for him, at least for me.
Very fair, I like your opinion.

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11-13-2012, 11:03 PM
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Dougie because of dat 'stache.

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Dougy but verrry close. Seems like he plays a good defensive game and has size to. Rielly is tearing up the dub tho, cant go wrong with either. AINEC should not show up in this poll
Agreed, that is why I included "too close to call" as the final option.

Also, anyone thinking I created this for flaming will probably take this the wrong way but my reasons are simple and clear. I want to know how well the other fans aside from Leafs and Bruins fans see these two from their view-point.

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As of right now the choice is quite easily Hamilton, but in the future it can go either way. At max potential, your looking at 2 potential top 5 D, ends up being which you rater prefer.

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I'd take Rielly, but it's close. Call me crazy, but I truly believe he'll be the best defenseman of the 2012 draft class and by quite a bit. I can see him hitting 60 points regularly in his prime while being solid defensively.

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Dougie is five inches taller, far ahead defensively and it's a virtual toss up offensively. I'm very comfortable taking Hamilton over any defensive prospect in the world.


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I'll take Rielly. Should be close though

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Dougy but verrry close. Seems like he plays a good defensive game and has size to. Rielly is tearing up the dub tho, cant go wrong with either. AINEC should not show up in this poll
Dougie tore up the OHL much more than Rielly is currently doing so.

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Dougie tore up the OHL much more than Rielly is currently doing so.
On the first place team. Moose Jaw is awful (sorry Warriors fans). I think it's a pretty safe argument to say Rielly is more of a catalyst for his teams offense than Hamilton is.

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On the first place team. Moose Jaw is awful (sorry Warriors fans). I think it's a pretty safe argument to say Rielly is more of a catalyst for his teams offense than Hamilton is.
They're bad but not Kootenay bad (literally Reinhart and no one else). Sam Fioretti doesn't seem to find it impossible to produce numbers in Moose Jaw this year. Don't how you can back the second sentence up, Hamilton's PPG was .02 below Strome's for the best on that first place team. They were so good because Dougie was so good.

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Similar offense with Hamilton being far ahead defensively.

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They're bad but not Kootenay bad (literally Reinhart and no one else). Sam Fioretti doesn't seem to find it impossible to produce numbers in Moose Jaw this year. Don't how you can back the second sentence up, Hamilton's PPG was .02 below Strome's for the best on that first place team. They were so good because Dougie was so good.
Sam Fioretti is good, but in no way is he an elite offensive force. He is just enjoying being the beneficiary of Rielly's offense. A bunch of Fiortti's goals have been from passes from Rielly or rebounds from Rielly. He's benefitting in the same way Spezza and Michalek benefitted from Karlsson. Strome is an elite offensive force that can create his own chances and make something from nothing, you can't expect to compare Fioretti with Ryan Strome.

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Will be interesting to see how they match up at the WJCs. Warriors have only scored 17 goals in their last 9 games, and Fioretti's coming down to Earth as well. They will eventually snap out of the funk, but Rielly is the only player on that team who generates offence at a high level. Brayden Point could be a 1st round pick, but he's been inconsistent offensively.

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I'm not going to vote because I haven't seen Dougie play enough to make an educated opinion.

But, from what I've seen... I don't see the 'amazingness' that most see in this kid. I'm sure I'll be proven wrong- I look forward to watching him at the WJC.

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Sam Fioretti is good, but in no way is he an elite offensive force. He is just enjoying being the beneficiary of Rielly's offense. A bunch of Fiortti's goals have been from passes from Rielly or rebounds from Rielly. He's benefitting in the same way Spezza and Michalek benefitted from Karlsson. Strome is an elite offensive force that can create his own chances and make something from nothing, you can't expect to compare Fioretti with Ryan Strome.
They're definitely miles apart with the talent surrounded them, but Hamilton was still a catalyst on that team and his production was phenomenal. I'm willing to concede a virtual toss up offensively, the thing is Rielly has to be much better offensively because of the size and defensive play gap in Hamilton's favour. Rielly hasn't proven to be much better offensively IMO.

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They're bad but not Kootenay bad (literally Reinhart and no one else). Sam Fioretti doesn't seem to find it impossible to produce numbers in Moose Jaw this year. Don't how you can back the second sentence up, Hamilton's PPG was .02 below Strome's for the best on that first place team. They were so good because Dougie was so good.
Yes, but Dougie has benefited from having better talent to work with him and players who can actually convert on the chances he creates.

Rielly's team is literally just Rielly, he's the best player on that team by a mile. Even in the last 8 games or so he's gone on a bit cold streak pointswise, but every game the play-by-play guys for the other teams still gush over him and he has earned a few star nominations over that time despite having point-less games; watching some of those games too, he stood out every time despite not coming up on the scoresheet.

I do still view Hamilton a bit higher at this point, he's 1 year ahead in his development and has looked very good.

As for who does better in the NHL, it's a toss-up for me, I'll just have to wait and see

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Rielly is good, but Dougy is something else. I haven't seen someone with his blend of size, skills and smarts in the OHL since Alex Pietrangelo. Rielly is probably 4th best D prospect for me behind Dougy, Schultz and Gormley

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Im going to say Rielly. On terms of potential they are pretty even, but I have a hunch that Dougie isnt going to turn out as well as people think. Just a gut feeling. Do hope he proves me wrong though.

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Dougie Hamilton for sure.

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They're definitely miles apart with the talent surrounded them, but Hamilton was still a catalyst on that team and his production was phenomenal. I'm willing to concede a virtual toss up offensively, the thing is Rielly has to be much better offensively because of the size and defensive play gap in Hamilton's favour. Rielly hasn't proven to be much better offensively IMO.
The size is definitely in Hamilton's favour, I wouldn't say the defensive play gap is that huge. Rielly is proned to bad reads now and then but his defensive game is pretty solid. Not as good as Hamilton's but in no way a liability. It's only being underrated because his offensive attributes are at such a high level. I've seen Hamilton play more than I've seen Rielly but I've seen Rielly a fair bit and tbh I'm just as nervous having Dougie Hamilton out on the ice defending a lead than I'd be having Rielly defending a lead.

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I'd still take Hamilton over Rielly, but only because I've seen more of him and I know how good he is.

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Whats this size business you guys are going on about, rielly is built like a tank compare to Hamilton. He is 5" shorter but last time I looked at 205lbs they are the same weight.

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