Sounds like they are really concerned about injuries in a shortened season. Also, talked about Garrisons d partner next season. He said Jasons only comfortable on leftside, so they will leave him there. Will either try Bieksa with him, or move Edler to right side. (I'd assume Tanev would play with Hamhuis). Breaking up one of the best shut down pairings in the NHL is a bad idea IMO (Hammer/Bieksa).
I'm guessing they try to keep Luongo for as long as possible to mitigate any potential goalie injury concerns. I was pretty sure they'd try Garrison on right side, now that doesn't seem a possibility. Gotta think a righty d-man is definitely coming back as a piece in a goalie trade.
Sounds like they are really concerned about injuries in a shortened season. Also, talked about Garrisons d partner next season. He said Jasons only comfortable on leftside, so they will leave him there. Will either try Bieksa with him, or move Edler to right side. (I'd assume Tanev would play with Hamhuis). Breaking up one of the best shut down pairings in the NHL is a bad idea IMO (Hammer/Bieksa).
I'm guessing they try to keep Luongo for as long as possible to mitigate any potential goalie injury concerns. I was pretty sure they'd try Garrison on right side, now that doesn't seem a possibility. Gotta think a righty d-man is definitely coming back as a piece in a goalie trade.
That should jettison Ballard out of town, but breaking up HamJuice is a bad idea. I didn't like it when they did it last year, and I don't like it now.
Lol. I'm wayyyyyy more concerned about the thought of Edler trying to play on the right side. In fact, I'm freaking out.
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That should jettison Ballard out of town, but breaking up HamJuice is a bad idea. I didn't like it when they did it last year, and I don't like it now.
Breaking up that pairing is def a bad idea. Though Hamhuis/Tanev was a rockstar pairing last season - not on the ice for a single goal against. More concerned about Bieksa without Hamhuis.
Either way, relying on Edler to play the right side has disaster 2.0 written all over it. They can't rely on that, there has to be a righty coming back in a goalie trade or Ballards traded for a righty.
Breaking up that pairing is def a bad idea. Though Hamhuis/Tanev was a rockstar pairing last season - not on the ice for a single goal against. More concerned about Bieksa without Hamhuis.
Either way, relying on Edler to play the right side has disaster 2.0 written all over it. They can't rely on that, there has to be a righty coming back in a goalie trade or Ballards traded for a righty.
Until the end right? Stoll's OT goal.
I think Hamhuis and Bieksa just make each other so much better it would be detrimental to keep them apart.
Edler should not be playing a position he's never played before. That has disaster as an imminent outcome.
Sounds like they are really concerned about injuries in a shortened season. Also, talked about Garrisons d partner next season. He said Jasons only comfortable on leftside, so they will leave him there. Will either try Bieksa with him, or move Edler to right side. (I'd assume Tanev would play with Hamhuis). Breaking up one of the best shut down pairings in the NHL is a bad idea IMO (Hammer/Bieksa).
I'm guessing they try to keep Luongo for as long as possible to mitigate any potential goalie injury concerns. I was pretty sure they'd try Garrison on right side, now that's not a possibility. Gotta think a righty d-man is definitely coming back as a piece in a goalie trade.
He said Garrison is more comfortable on the left side so they are going to start him there. Makes sense to make the new guy comfortable. I think you're overstating exactly what that means going forward.
That said, I really hope they have a plan for this. I called it being a problem when they brought Ballard and Hamhuis in (the Flyers went to the finals with 6 LHD!) they must have learned from that. There is no reason Edler can't play the right side, I just hope they told him the second they signed Garrison if that's what they want to do. Someone as talented as Edler can pull it off pretty easily with some extra work.
He said Garrison is more comfortable on the left side so they are going to start him there. Makes sense to make the new guy comfortable. I think you're overstating exactly what that means going forward.
That said, I really hope they have a plan for this. I called it being a problem when they brought Ballard and Hamhuis in (the Flyers went to the finals with 6 LHD!) they must have learned from that. There is no reason Edler can't play the right side, I just hope they told him the second they signed Garrison if that's what they want to do. Someone as talented as Edler can pull it off pretty easily with some extra work.
I wasn't trying to portray that he can't play the right side, merely that they aren't using him there "Jason is more comfortable on the left side, and that's where we're planning on putting him".
So, Garrisons going to be playing the left side - who will be playing on his right? I 'assumed' all along he'd be playing the right. Now that's not going to happen, they're going to assume Edler can play the right side? Edler had trouble with defensive responsibilities on the left side. Garrison at least had experience playing on the right. In my mind, it leaves a huge gap on the right side, something they'll probably need to address via trade.
I figured this was going to be a bigger problem than most thought. Why does a team go out and get that many LD with high salaries, they must plan on moving edler. I dont see Hamhuis getting traded and i dont see any of Hamhuis Edler or Garrison playing 3rd pairing duties
And if youre going to pay a guy big bucks, playing them on their off side doesn't make much sense. Since when we do just acquire a winger knowing we're going to just throw him on the off wing.
I wouldn't be too concerned with pairing Edler on the right next to Garrison. Edler is primarily used as the offensive defenseman, and playing on the right is often a conducive environment for LH PMD's. I would be far more worried playing the defensive defenseman in a position he's not comfortable in than the offensive guy. Hopefully Edler can take on an Ehrhoff-type role, except with added physicality and stronger defensive play.
No. Ballard is a useful player and will be happily retained if the cap permits it. Raymond is a bit redundant on the left wing, but he's due for a bounce back year after finally being able to train properly and is definitely still a positive value player around the league.
No. Ballard is a useful player and will be happily retained if the cap permits it. Raymond is a bit redundant on the left wing, but he's due for a bounce back year after finally being able to train properly and is definitely still a positive value player around the league.
No worries, it just seemed like some were looking to dump them and i was giving an option.
I wouldn't be too concerned with pairing Edler on the right next to Garrison. Edler is primarily used as the offensive defenseman, and playing on the right is often a conducive environment for LH PMD's. I would be far more worried playing the defensive defenseman in a position he's not comfortable in than the offensive guy. Hopefully Edler can take on an Ehrhoff-type role, except with added physicality and stronger defensive play.
Agree with this. Much rather try the offensive D-man on the right as opposed to the shutdown guy.
Edler had trouble with defensive responsibilities on the left side.
IMO that is something he can iron out. A lot of people don't appreciate how difficult it is to switch sides but it's not impossible. I just hope they gave him a heads up so he could work on it this offseason and that they commit to it.
After reading that about Garrison for some reason I'm having a feeling in my stomach that we may end up with a top 4 of:
Hamhuis - Tanev
Garrison - Bieksa
and we ship off Edler to get a forward.... which I wouldn't like.
However I'd imagine that Tanev would REALLY need to earn Vancouver's trust before they pulled that off.... or maybe we get back a Dman prospect in a Luongo trade???
Who knows? All I know is I want this Lockout over so we don't have to continue the speculation on how this team will look.
IMO that is something he can iron out. A lot of people don't appreciate how difficult it is to switch sides but it's not impossible. I just hope they gave him a heads up so he could work on it this offseason and that they commit to it.
Ya, I was hoping the same thing. Both him and Garrison are injured and working out together. Hopefully he's been practicing on his offside.
On a side, Frankie Corrado played last night vs. Russia on his offside (left) and looked stellar. Normally plays on his right side, you couldn't even tell - he went seamlessly to the left side and was possibly the best dman that night. Be great if Edler could too.
