I meant I wasn't comparing Rielly with Crosby skill wise. Only by sample size and how it doesn't effect the player they are. Durability is definitely something to consider but I don't think you can accurately compare durability between them especially since I doubt Rielly's injury last year automatically makes him injury proned.
It's still not an apt comparison. Crosby has a number of years of excellent play at the NHL level to fall back on. I doubt you're looking at Rielly's only full season in the WHL as an indicator of his future.
Reilly is going to be a very good player but going against Hamilton Reilly shouldn't even have one vote except for maybe the vote from the Leaf nation.
It's still not an apt comparison. Crosby has a number of years of excellent play at the NHL level to fall back on. I doubt you're looking at Rielly's only full season in the WHL as an indicator of his future.
I am looking at Rielly's dynamic skill set (skating, vision, etc) and saying that those tools were not hindered by injury in the same way Crosby's skill set was not hindered by hisinjury. I am not saying their skill sets are the same. I am saying that both skill sets were not hindered by injury and thus cannot be used as a means to take away from the player that they are.
I am looking at Rielly's dynamic skill set (skating, vision, etc) and saying that those tools were not hindered by injury in the same way Crosby's skill set was not hindered by hisinjury. I am not saying their skill sets are the same. I am saying that both skill sets were not hindered by injury and thus cannot be used as a means to take away from the player that they are.
This is the full explanation of what I meant.
Crosby was further along in his development at the time though, Atomos. I'm not saying his injuries will hold Rielly back. Not in the least. Just that a player in his 20's is at a different stage in his development than an 18 year old. It also doesn't hurt that Crosby was already the best player in the league when he was injured.
I agree that the missed time probably isn't a particularly big deal. Rielly is playing great hockey, and he's living up to his draft position. I imagine that if Toronto had any doubts about his injury and the time missed, that they would have passed on him. They didn't.
I am looking at Rielly's dynamic skill set (skating, vision, etc) and saying that those tools were not hindered by injury in the same way Crosby's skill set was not hindered by hisinjury. I am not saying their skill sets are the same. I am saying that both skill sets were not hindered by injury and thus cannot be used as a means to take away from the player that they are.
This is the full explanation of what I meant.
How can you say it wasn't hindered? Missing 70% of a season is going to stunt your development, especially when you are 17-18. Might not affect you in the long run, but it does affect the immediate future.
How can you say it wasn't hindered? Missing 70% of a season is going to stunt your development, especially when you are 17-18. Might not affect you in the long run, but it does affect the immediate future.
I think that remains to be seen. There are always exceptions. Rielly doesn't look like he has missed a beat.
I'll take Doug because no one really knows if Rielly will ever be a big-time player in the NHL. It's very rare that type of player amounts to being a star defenseman.
I'm pretty confident Doug will be a top pairing defenseman from what I've seen.
What? I'm not even sure how Crosby came into this discussion.
This little thing called watching both play and reality. My analysis of both is on page 2 I believe.
What makes you think he is not?
Try reading the past 10 or so posts before you barge in with your "Leafs persecution complex". Also the fact that Sojourn said: A player in his 20s, should have been a dead giveaway that he wasn't talking about Hamilton since Hamilton is 19. I shouldn't need to point that out, seeing as how you are an expert and everything.
Try reading the past 10 or so posts before you barge in with your "Leafs persecution complex". Also the fact that Sojourn said: A player in his 20s, should have been a dead giveaway that he wasn't talking about Hamilton since Hamilton is 19. I shouldn't need to point that out, seeing as how you are an expert and everything.
I was addressing a single general point from within that paragraph, before you barged in with your off-topic rant.
I'll take Doug because no one really knows if Rielly will ever be a big-time player in the NHL. It's very rare that type of player amounts to being a star defenseman.
I'm pretty confident Doug will be a top pairing defenseman from what I've seen.
This little thing called watching both play and reality. My analysis of both is on page 2 I believe.
What makes you think he is not?
Reality? Nice try passing off your opinion as reality.
I've seen them both. I'd take Hamilton. I think his game will transition better to the NHL too. Just because Rielly can make fancier plays doesn't make him the better player.
Reality? Nice try passing off your opinion as reality.
I've seen them both. I'd take Hamilton. I think his game will transition better to the NHL too. Just because Rielly can make fancier plays doesn't make him the better player.
Depends on whether those fancy plays are plays that few else in the game are making. Players that play the way Rielly does change the way your team plays, the puck is pushed out of the zone quickly, the puck is pushed into the offensive zone more often. Everyone gets more opportunities to produce.
Rielly had an "it" factor as soon as I saw him play as an underager at the U18 a couple years ago. He's got the upside to be the better of these two but I think your safe bet may be Hamilton. Wouldn't be of any surprise if it's Rielly though.
I've seen them both. I'd take Hamilton. I think his game will transition better to the NHL too. Just because Rielly can make fancier plays doesn't make him the better player.
Is that these International junior games or WHL ones? Just wondering, for a guy who complained about the PBP commentator gushing over Rielly all game today, you would probably lose your mind with the WHL PBPs.
