I noticed that Rielly didn't get a lot of icetime in the first half of the first, and the Dub had Murray and Pulock on the first PP unit. After the 10 minute mark it seemed Rielly was out there every other shift and on the #1 PP unit with Pulock. He's legitimately SO good.
Granberg could be a good candidate to pair up with either Rielly or Gardiner in the coming years. He's the most NHL ready D prospect we have after Rielly so I could see that, He's also right handed which is nice.
He needs to play the body. The Russians are outnumbering his side in the d-zone prolly because they don't like to get hit
Wow.....maybe you should watch the game and see the position of his D part to understand what is happening. He is very good at taking away time and space.
I stand by my comments about his defensive play....I likely watched him play more then any other person on this board....and speak from watching him play a lot.
Wow.....maybe you should watch the game and see the position of his D part to understand what is happening. He is very good at taking away time and space.
I stand by my comments about his defensive play....I likely watched him play more then any other person on this board....and speak from watching him play a lot.
I guess we strongly disagree on what Rielly's strengths and weaknesses are
Yep. Gunnar played great D in his zone last season. He's always had the potential but his consistency wasn't good.
Gunnar is not leaving TO any time soon IMO. He's a bit valuable to just trade for picks/3rd liners etc...Franson would be the guy leaving, if any of them have to.
As far as Dion Phaneuf goes...he isn't GREAT defensively like Chara, Weber, Suter etc but he's good. He shut down the likes of Malkin, Stamkos and Tavares last season when they played against TO.
I feel like on this board, if you are a good offensive defenseman, you are automatically labelled bad defensively. Don't even understand how people call Gardiner bad defensively. He was much better defensively than a lot of our so called "stay at home D-men" last year.
When Burke stated that he believes he got the best player in the draft .....does anyone still believe he was just blowing hot air as usual?
I stated long before the draft that he was at worse the 2nd best player....the best D man is a given.
Did you just compliment BUrke?
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Originally Posted by ToneBone03
I noticed that Rielly didn't get a lot of icetime in the first half of the first, and the Dub had Murray and Pulock on the first PP unit. After the 10 minute mark it seemed Rielly was out there every other shift and on the #1 PP unit with Pulock. He's legitimately SO good.
Noticed the same thing.
Didn't know what number he was in hte first 10min, then it seemed like he was always on the ice after that.
very noticable
I feel like on this board, if you are a good offensive defenseman, you are automatically labelled bad defensively. Don't even understand how people call Gardiner bad defensively. He was much better defensively than a lot of our so called "stay at home D-men" last year.
I agree......
Look at Murray play tonight and any time you can and you will see people believe that he is the most ready NHL d man......he is a good player but quick decisions is not his strength. Safe decisions which are easy to read is....as a result lots of give away.
Watch Morgan how many times does he not hit tape with his passes....
Didn't know what number he was in hte first 10min, then it seemed like he was always on the ice after that.
very noticable
Yes I did compliment Burke......great draft pick....best we have made since...It has been a long time since we drafted Clark. Different type of players....but an impact player.
Look at Murray play tonight and any time you can and you will see people believe that he is the most ready NHL d man......he is a good player but quick decisions is not his strength. Safe decisions which are easy to read is....as a result lots of give away.
Watch Morgan how many times does he not hit tape with his passes....
Murray has given the puck away pretty much every time he's had the puck.
Twice with very lazy/slow clearout attempts in his own zone.
I feel like on this board, if you are a good offensive defenseman, you are automatically labelled bad defensively. Don't even understand how people call Gardiner bad defensively. He was much better defensively than a lot of our so called "stay at home D-men" last year.
No he wasn't. I'm Gardiner's biggest fan and he was pretty awful in his own zone despite pillow-soft minutes and opposition.
I feel like on this board, if you are a good offensive defenseman, you are automatically labelled bad defensively. Don't even understand how people call Gardiner bad defensively. He was much better defensively than a lot of our so called "stay at home D-men" last year.
most posters here think the only way you can be good defensively is if you're big and can hit, like super slow defensive liabilities Schenn and Komisarek.
No he wasn't. I'm Gardiner's biggest fan and he was pretty awful in his own zone despite pillow-soft minutes and opposition.
This is you.
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most posters here think the only way you can be good defensively is if you're big and can hit, like super slow defensive liabilities Schenn and Komisarek.
