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11-14-2012, 11:59 PM
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Players that impressed me:

Hunter Shinkaruk
Ryan Pulock
Shinkaruk was creative, but pretty average and Pulock was the worst defenseman of the bunch IMO.


Sissons
Murray-Siemens

Were the best of the bunch. Rielly was also good.

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11-15-2012, 12:01 AM
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Only watched the ending bit, but good job WHL.

Russia's morale is clearly low. What is Yakupov doing, a few weeks ago he was playing great hockey in the best league in the world, and now he can't even step up against junior players? Can't handle the pressure of being captain or what?

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11-15-2012, 12:02 AM
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My stand-out players:

- Ryan Murray - logged a lot of minutes, it's like he was on for half a game.
- Broissot - Wall
- Shinkaruk - talented offensively and showed his gritty side, solid along the boards as well
- Rielly - Dynamic and competitive, desire to make something happen every shift he was on.
- Makarov - same as Broissot, Russian Wall.
- Nichushkin - He was arguably the only bright spot Russia's end aside from Makarov.

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11-15-2012, 12:04 AM
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Shinkaruk = kessel look alike
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I thought this too when I saw him today

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11-15-2012, 12:05 AM
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I'm really not impressed with Yakupov thus far. He takes shifts off, gives the puck away repeatedly with pointless dangles near his own zone, I'm also not seeing the skill. The effort is incredibly lacking.
Are you trolling? I have been really impressed with his passing all series. Very sharp crisp passes right on the tape and deft little saucers back and forth with the D. Speed is his game though, so it's tough for him to show everything when Canada is clogging the neutral zone every time he winds up for a rush.

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11-15-2012, 12:05 AM
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Hahaha what? He has been playing with new line mates for the last two games with zero chemistry. Also its hard to do something when you have Sissons, Siemens, and Murray all on you.
He plays against better dmen almost every game in the KHL..

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11-15-2012, 12:06 AM
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He plays against better dmen almost every game in the KHL..
In a bigger ice surface.

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11-15-2012, 12:06 AM
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Siemens looked very good.

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11-15-2012, 12:07 AM
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In a bigger ice surface.
Irrelevant. Still very hard to score in that league.

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11-15-2012, 12:08 AM
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He plays against better dmen almost every game in the KHL..
It's probably a bit easier for him to make things happen when the ice surface is bigger. I didn't think he was at his best tonight either, but to be fair to him the WHL team really seemed to focus in on him. I just really would have hoped to see him fight through it a bit more.

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11-15-2012, 12:09 AM
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Shinkaruk is much better than he is advertised. He displays a lot of grit and wasn't shy of going into the corners.

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11-15-2012, 12:11 AM
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I think a bit of Yakupovs problem is the smaller rink, its kind of like me when i was in highschool everyone expected me to be very good but its a lot harder when the area to play in is a lot smaller, more bodies and sticks in the way. Kind of weird explanation but I can identify with the guy

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11-15-2012, 12:12 AM
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It would help if his teammates would pass to him when he's open in the offensive zone.

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11-15-2012, 12:13 AM
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In a bigger ice surface.
He's played more games on NHL sized ice in the last 2 years than he has on international ice.

He had a bad game, no doubt he'll be ready to go tomorrow.

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11-15-2012, 12:17 AM
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He's played more games on NHL sized ice in the last 2 years than he has on international ice.

He had a bad game, no doubt he'll be ready to go tomorrow.
I honestly think he got shutdown by Siemens, but I do agree that he can be much better than he was tonight.

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11-15-2012, 12:17 AM
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It would help if his teammates would pass to him when he's open in the offensive zone.
It's not like he spent half of the game wide open. Yakupov's less than impressive game is on his own shoulders. A player of his talent level should be better. As Ralph said, I'm sure he'll bounce back and look better tomorrow.

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11-15-2012, 12:20 AM
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What is Yakupov doing, a few weeks ago he was playing great hockey in the best league in the world, and now he can't even step up against junior players? Can't handle the pressure of being captain or what?
Russia is sitting on their hills little too much most of the series. The less puck possession your team has the more time you spend chasing the puck instead of attacking. Khokhlachev centering you also doesn't help, he handles the puck like a grenade and pretty small to consistently win battles and just in general not much of a playmaker.

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11-15-2012, 12:23 AM
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yakupov was ok, not the best russian forward but still effective. it was a 0-0 game no one on either team really took control of the game, to much good defence especially in the neutral zone where they shut yakupov down

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11-15-2012, 12:26 AM
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It's not like he spent half of the game wide open. Yakupov's less than impressive game is on his own shoulders. A player of his talent level should be better. As Ralph said, I'm sure he'll bounce back and look better tomorrow.
Can you name one Russian forward who has stood out all series long? I really can't. Offense has been very poor for the whole team. This is a coaching problem.

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11-15-2012, 12:29 AM
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I think a bit of Yakupovs problem is the smaller rink, its kind of like me when i was in highschool everyone expected me to be very good but its a lot harder when the area to play in is a lot smaller, more bodies and sticks in the way. Kind of weird explanation but I can identify with the guy
He did light up the OHL, not like a smaller ice surface is new to him, maybe transitioning from KHL ice size to smaller ice surfaces is harder on short notice.

His biggest problem was he was always starting the break out so rarely got a chance to use his speed/shot.

All dump ins were handled by the WHL dmen extremly well so he never got to play in the offensivezone for large periods of time.

Underwhelming showing all in all

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11-15-2012, 12:36 AM
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He plays against better dmen almost every game in the KHL..
The WHL had 5 top 8 picks on D in this last draft. Sure they aren't seasoned like the competition Nail faces in the KHL, but they are all pretty talented. Some of these guys could step onto their NHL teams and be playing opening night.

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Can you name one Russian forward who has stood out all series long? I really can't. Offense has been very poor for the whole team. This is a coaching problem.
Nichushkin has been consistently good from what I've seen/heard.

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11-15-2012, 12:37 AM
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Lack of offense is the team's problem, not just Yakupov. There's a lot of talent on this team when it comes to scoring, but none of them are producing. There's little combination game unfortunately, and the forwards don't move the puck quick enough.

I'll give praise to Varnakov that he got the players to buy into the defensive system. I'm not overly worried about lack of production, since the talent and all is still there. With a few adjustments they should be able to turn it on. It's not like they have to learn how to score, not this group.

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11-15-2012, 12:39 AM
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Can you name one Russian forward who has stood out all series long? I really can't. Offense has been very poor for the whole team. This is a coaching problem.
I think it's fair to say Shalunov stood out all series long. Nichushkin and Kosov too, but one is too young and the other one hasn't found his finishing touch yet.

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Nichushkin has been consistently good from what I've seen/heard.
He has definitely shown flashes and keeps getting stronger out there. I'd say Kapustin and Shalunov have been pretty consistently good all series.

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