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11-14-2012, 10:44 PM
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Bussey or Rodier could be decent pick ups for teams looking to add grit with some offensive upside
Im sure both players would like to play in the p.o.s in their final years and have a chance at a championship, question is when do they and their teams pull the trigger

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what happened to nepean in the 3rd ?
Remember Canada blowing the 3-0 lead to Russia in the gold medal game of the WJC. Kemptville looked like a tidal wave, and Nepean got swamped. Partly Nepean was going to mail in the 3rd. and partly Kemptville had 4 games of steam built up. Byron & Lussier were good all night. Zawadski was good in the first 2. Norris & johnson, Debrincat had good games.
My talk of Yarwood's departure appears premature, he was sitting with inj. reserved guys last night.
Bring on Smith Falls!!

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Remember Canada blowing the 3-0 lead to Russia in the gold medal game of the WJC. Kemptville looked like a tidal wave, and Nepean got swamped. Partly Nepean was going to mail in the 3rd. and partly Kemptville had 4 games of steam built up. Byron & Lussier were good all night. Zawadski was good in the first 2. Norris & johnson, Debrincat had good games.
My talk of Yarwood's departure appears premature, he was sitting with inj. reserved guys last night.
Bring on Smith Falls!!
Zawadski made 3 huge saves in OT or they would have lost. Did not really think Zawadski played bad as much as his defense left him all alone. Nepean defense looked really slow in third and continually blew their defensive assignments. Have to give 73s credit, they did not quit and were rewarded.

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Im sure both players would like to play in the p.o.s in their final years and have a chance at a championship, question is when do they and their teams pull the trigger
Good question before Dec ? they are 2O years old Bussey 41G 49A 290pim Rodier 55G 103A 235pim both in your face players. What do you give up for this type of player. SF, NR, OJS,PLK ?

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Good question before Dec ? they are 2O years old Bussey 41G 49A 290pim Rodier 55G 103A 235pim both in your face players. What do you give up for this type of player. SF, NR, OJS,PLK ?
My guess is both of these guys would not come into play until Jan 10th trading deadline. Hawkesbury has been playing better and is still striving to get into play-offs and Rodier is wearing the "C" with the Grads.

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Pat Malloy

Ok, does anyone think he needs to go now?

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Ok, does anyone think he needs to go now?
There are only 2 people who have opinions that matter, both are owners, what anyone on this forum thinks about this coach or any other is meaningless.

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There are only 2 people who have opinions that matter, both are owners, what anyone on this forum thinks about this coach or any other is meaningless.
Every post on this board is meaningless (as far as hockey decisions go). That doesn't mean we can't talk about player and/or coach movement.

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Ok, does anyone think he needs to go now?
Pat maybe D coach for sure,

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Zawadski made 3 huge saves in OT or they would have lost. Did not really think Zawadski played bad as much as his defense left him all alone. Nepean defense looked really slow in third and continually blew their defensive assignments. Have to give 73s credit, they did not quit and were rewarded.
Absolutely, I did not say Zawadski played bad, none of the 5 goals were particuarly bad goals, but when 5 get past you in one period..........it's hard to describe it as a good period for Zawad.
OT-Kemptville had Zawadski on his butt with the puck lying in the blue paint but they could'get it through the skates-sticks etc. Byron created all three of the OT chances.

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My guess is both of these guys would not come into play until Jan 10th trading deadline. Hawkesbury has been playing better and is still striving to get into play-offs and Rodier is wearing the "C" with the Grads.
both teams need D now, so trading ASAP should help HB and CG get to the playoffs.who trades 1st HB or CG?

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Every post on this board is meaningless (as far as hockey decisions go). That doesn't mean we can't talk about player and/or coach movement.
That's what you think

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both teams need D now, so trading ASAP should help HB and CG get to the playoffs.who trades 1st HB or CG?
I would assume HB...although hopefully cumberland learned from last year to trade away the older players.

although i do agree kemptville could use a coaching change a set of good assistant coaches could help their cause. They need to have at least two

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Smith Falls beat Cornwall 5 - 1

The Bears do not play a traditional box formation when they are shorthanded but prefer to be aggressive causing turnovers and leading to scoring opportunities. Smith Falls used this technic extremely well and scored 3 goals (shorthanded) tonight leaving the fan base wondering if we should decline the penalties.

Chris Maniccia scored a hat trick and played like a man possessed. Yannick Crete's speed is incredible and causes trouble for the opposition. Akeson played ok but did not stand out more than that. Patrick Sexton (D) impressed me, he was calm and calculated and played well on PP. Jeffrey Carroll had another strong game. Patrick Martin had another strong game & made some big saves look easy. This kid impresses me. MacClaren, Disipio & McCaughan all played well. Smith Falls rolls 4 lines most of the game and then in the 3rd they shorten their bench to 3 lines, their better players still have fairly fresh legs.

Cornwall's "d" was terrible Johnson(worst game this year), Howes , Belizario, Kirkwood, Suvak & Ouellette gave the puck away time and time again. The offense was not affective, they do not skate thay just stand still. Mitch Zion is OVERATED.The one bright spot IMO was Andrew Ming.


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I believe SF and Nepean playing for first time today, it should be a good game. It will be interesting to see how SF aggressive PK will work against Nepean PP which moves puck quickly. My prediction is a 3-2 win for Nepean who should be very motivated after the bad third period they had against 73s on Wednesday.

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Right your are! Didn't even play an ex. game preseason against each other. Great match up! Smith Falls in OT. But Nepean could easily be on top. Great game to watch!

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Ok, does anyone think he needs to go now?
Of course he should be gone. But the relationship with Thomson is too tight and these two probably feel they are now playing with house (Tugnutt's) money. As long as Molloy plays the Tugnutts, he is probably safe.

Both Molloy and Thomson had a hand in the roster they bought and how they blew it up in favour of under-performing imports. They chose to bring in a big prep school kid with no junior experience instead of handing the reins to Brind'Amour (a proven CCHL starter) and they could have brought in Tugnutt as a back-up. They blew up the D core by not signing or trading Keesler, Douming, Lacroix, Ferris, and Guy. Add Hensbee and Lussie to those and you have a middle of the pack Defence.

They brought in forwards from all over... none of whom are performing and likely are not playing. Some will not be back at Christmas or sooner. They traded away Rosebrook, Adams, Van Stien, Warren (with years to develop and play) in exchange for Varin who has less than 40 games left in the league. How has Rosebrook done LOL.

Many long-time fans no longer attend this train-wreck. Will the team survive the league's buy-out of its weak links in favour of Wellington and Kingston?

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Smith Falls beat Cornwall 5 - 1

Cornwall's "d" was terrible Johnson(worst game this year), Howes , Belizario, Kirkwood, Suvak & Ouellette gave the puck away time and time again. The offense was not affective, they do not skate thay just stand still. Mitch Zion is OVERATED.The one bright spot IMO was Andrew Ming.

They need to take that "C" away from Johnson and give it to Billy Ulrick.At least Billy plays with some heart and soul for the team.Johnson is getting worse every game and the fans are letting him know.Andrew Ming and Jake Martin played a very good game,but the rest of the team were very flat.

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Of course he should be gone. But the relationship with Thomson is too tight and these two probably feel they are now playing with house (Tugnutt's) money. As long as Molloy plays the Tugnutts, he is probably safe.

Both Molloy and Thomson had a hand in the roster they bought and how they blew it up in favour of under-performing imports. They chose to bring in a big prep school kid with no junior experience instead of handing the reins to Brind'Amour (a proven CCHL starter) and they could have brought in Tugnutt as a back-up. They blew up the D core by not signing or trading Keesler, Douming, Lacroix, Ferris, and Guy. Add Hensbee and Lussie to those and you have a middle of the pack Defence.

They brought in forwards from all over... none of whom are performing and likely are not playing. Some will not be back at Christmas or sooner. They traded away Rosebrook, Adams, Van Stien, Warren (with years to develop and play) in exchange for Varin who has less than 40 games left in the league. How has Rosebrook done LOL.

Many long-time fans no longer attend this train-wreck. Will the team survive the league's buy-out of its weak links in favour of Wellington and Kingston?
You do not seem very knowledgable...Ferras is playing CIS, lacroix USHL, Keesler and douming are both at best bottom pair defenceman and Guy went to the OHL but may be returning. Cant think of the last team that traded away players who moved on to a higher level other than NCAA that got traded...

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A great night for hockey - what about the goalies?

Great night for hockey action in the CJHL

Some big games, big wins…and great team efforts.
So how did the goalies fair…

CP vs. Hawks (2-3) Big win for Brock Crossthwaite– why wasn’t he one of the stars? Who chooses the stars: seems they can give this to his partner in/for lesser games, why not him? Give this kid a chance, he will shine.
No doubt a tough job supporting starter Carmine Guerriero.

Nepean vs. Smith Falls (2-1) good game for Zawadzki, nice to see he is getting more than 25+ shots/game recently. A tough game for Patrick Martin, but this situation tonight and last week’s game will happen for all goalies as they accumulate more games/minutes.
Good news for Martin and Zawadski is… they have great talent(s)/team in front of them and they usually make a goalie’s job easier. Big accolades to (SF) Jimmy Howe for coming in and delivering a really great performance.

Ottawa vs. Kanata (1-2) - A good game for Alexandre Savard-Belanger, his team should be proud, even with the loss. This kid has potential.
Brandon Lane was the difference in this game. The score could/should have been a lot different, in favor of Ottawa, if not for Lane. With this one, folks should consider the amount of shots and lack of DF he has in front of him each game. Kanata is where they are now for certain players such as Lane. Shout out to St-Germain, Brayden – watch this kid in the years to come!

Pembroke vs. Brockville (2-4) – Upset for Brockville!! - Really a wash with shots, PP, but good win for Matt Jenkins and tough lose for Andy Monroe

Cornwall vs. Gloucester (5-2) – Good win for Jamie Edwardson and a big call out to Gunner Rivers for great effort facing 36 shots. He and his goalie partner De Meis, Gianmarco are showing perseverance with a struggling team

Cumberland vs. Kemptville (3-6) Jacob Tugnutt had a great game.
Again…who chooses the stars?
If a goalie is the main result of the win and or motivating his team, why not acknowledge?? (Oh, sorry, they are doing this for certain teams….) Congrats Tugnutt for a great effort.

Congrats to all goalies –
They are the reason for: a win, the blame for a lose and the difference in between....

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Great night for hockey action in the CJHL

Some big games, big wins…and great team efforts.
So how did the goalies fair…

CP vs. Hawks (2-3) Big win for Brock Crossthwaite– why wasn’t he one of the stars? Who chooses the stars: seems they can give this to his partner in/for lesser games, why not him? Give this kid a chance, he will shine.
No doubt a tough job supporting starter Carmine Guerriero.

Nepean vs. Smith Falls (2-1) good game for Zawadzki, nice to see he is getting more than 25+ shots/game recently. A tough game for Patrick Martin, but this situation tonight and last week’s game will happen for all goalies as they accumulate more games/minutes.
Good news for Martin and Zawadski is… they have great talent(s)/team in front of them and they usually make a goalie’s job easier. Big accolades to (SF) Jimmy Howe for coming in and delivering a really great performance.

Ottawa vs. Kanata (1-2) - A good game for Alexandre Savard-Belanger, his team should be proud, even with the loss. This kid has potential.
Brandon Lane was the difference in this game. The score could/should have been a lot different, in favor of Ottawa, if not for Lane. With this one, folks should consider the amount of shots and lack of DF he has in front of him each game. Kanata is where they are now for certain players such as Lane. Shout out to St-Germain, Brayden – watch this kid in the years to come!

Pembroke vs. Brockville (2-4) – Upset for Brockville!! - Really a wash with shots, PP, but good win for Matt Jenkins and tough lose for Andy Monroe

Cornwall vs. Gloucester (5-2) – Good win for Jamie Edwardson and a big call out to Gunner Rivers for great effort facing 36 shots. He and his goalie partner De Meis, Gianmarco are showing perseverance with a struggling team

Cumberland vs. Kemptville (3-6) Jacob Tugnutt had a great game.
Again…who chooses the stars?
If a goalie is the main result of the win and or motivating his team, why not acknowledge?? (Oh, sorry, they are doing this for certain teams….) Congrats Tugnutt for a great effort.

Congrats to all goalies –
They are the reason for: a win, the blame for a lose and the difference in between....
Great comments and good insight but i caught they kemptville/grads game and i would say tugnutt played very average dropping rebounds and letting in less than steller goals. Was a very slow game with weak goals let in on both sides. Proof why both these teams are the bottom two. Even with players shining like House and Byron for keptville you gotta ask when they'll want out with it being their last years and hopefully they can get more than $$$$ back with brenton gone.

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Great night for hockey action in the CJHL

Some big games, big wins…and great team efforts.
So how did the goalies fair…

CP vs. Hawks (2-3) Big win for Brock Crossthwaite– why wasn’t he one of the stars? Who chooses the stars: seems they can give this to his partner in/for lesser games, why not him? Give this kid a chance, he will shine.
No doubt a tough job supporting starter Carmine Guerriero.

Nepean vs. Smith Falls (2-1) good game for Zawadzki, nice to see he is getting more than 25+ shots/game recently. A tough game for Patrick Martin, but this situation tonight and last week’s game will happen for all goalies as they accumulate more games/minutes.
Good news for Martin and Zawadski is… they have great talent(s)/team in front of them and they usually make a goalie’s job easier. Big accolades to (SF) Jimmy Howe for coming in and delivering a really great performance.

Ottawa vs. Kanata (1-2) - A good game for Alexandre Savard-Belanger, his team should be proud, even with the loss. This kid has potential.
Brandon Lane was the difference in this game. The score could/should have been a lot different, in favor of Ottawa, if not for Lane. With this one, folks should consider the amount of shots and lack of DF he has in front of him each game. Kanata is where they are now for certain players such as Lane. Shout out to St-Germain, Brayden – watch this kid in the years to come!

Pembroke vs. Brockville (2-4) – Upset for Brockville!! - Really a wash with shots, PP, but good win for Matt Jenkins and tough lose for Andy Monroe

Cornwall vs. Gloucester (5-2) – Good win for Jamie Edwardson and a big call out to Gunner Rivers for great effort facing 36 shots. He and his goalie partner De Meis, Gianmarco are showing perseverance with a struggling team

Cumberland vs. Kemptville (3-6) Jacob Tugnutt had a great game.
Again…who chooses the stars?
If a goalie is the main result of the win and or motivating his team, why not acknowledge?? (Oh, sorry, they are doing this for certain teams….) Congrats Tugnutt for a great effort.

Congrats to all goalies –
They are the reason for: a win, the blame for a lose and the difference in between....
Great recap, but I would sooner hear your comments on the game you attended (if you did attend one) than a recap from "POINTSTREAK". I was at SF game. Martin did not play that bad. First goal was a little soft but second goal they crashed net and drove everthing including the puck in. Martin was injured and never returned. Howe made a few very good saves, but was not tested regularly. Zawadski made a few spectacular saves and won the game for Nepean. SF were all over them in 3rd period. Both teams defense was suspect. Mannicia best player on ice.

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Great recap, but I would sooner hear your comments on the game you attended (if you did attend one) than a recap from "POINTSTREAK". I was at SF game. Martin did not play that bad. First goal was a little soft but second goal they crashed net and drove everthing including the puck in. Martin was injured and never returned. Howe made a few very good saves, but was not tested regularly. Zawadski made a few spectacular saves and won the game for Nepean. SF were all over them in 3rd period. Both teams defense was suspect. Mannicia best player on ice.
Agree. A re-cap based on Pointstreaks, shot count is fun to read, and I enjoyed reading it, but picking game stars from the shot count (done by volunteers) not realistic.

Nepean over Smith Falls 2-1
No second line tonight for Nepean, Norris took warm-up but did not play, Yarwood in the stands as well. Plus Diaz on defense not dressed. I was a little disappointed Nepean didn't have a better line-up.
Goulet had to fashion together a second line, Hodgson, Herlihey, Nasca. But really he had Hedges line 1 and then 2a, 2b, 2c.
Hedges line generated chances in the first 2 periods and 2a,b, & c did Ok with the extra ice time considering they were playing the top team in the league.
I thought Neil was the best forward on the ice for either team.
Smith Falls was physical early but as the game went on it was pretty even. Watt and Milito landed big hits, Smith Falls tagged Hedges a couple times which is very important to slow him down.
3rd period all Smith Falls, didn't matter what Nep. line was on, they couldn't get the puck out of their end. Not just the defense fault, as matter of fact I would say the defense bent but didn't break under the heavy Smith Falls pressure. Smith Falls hit the crossbar early in the 3rd and kept the puck in Nep. end for most of the 3rd, but generated a surprising few great scoring chances out of it. Very impressed with Smith Falls Speed, breakout and fore-check, Mannicia, Crete etc. very fast, the big forwards were effective at times as well. SF PK lived up to billing, almost got a shorty. Smith Falls showed a surprising lack of finish, bad luck, good goalie?
Anyways, Smith Falls deserved a least a point but it was a gutsy effort from Nepean.
Was Smith Falls missing anyone significant??

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Of course he should be gone. But the relationship with Thomson is too tight and these two probably feel they are now playing with house (Tugnutt's) money. As long as Molloy plays the Tugnutts, he is probably safe.

Both Molloy and Thomson had a hand in the roster they bought and how they blew it up in favour of under-performing imports. They chose to bring in a big prep school kid with no junior experience instead of handing the reins to Brind'Amour (a proven CCHL starter) and they could have brought in Tugnutt as a back-up. They blew up the D core by not signing or trading Keesler, Douming, Lacroix, Ferris, and Guy. Add Hensbee and Lussie to those and you have a middle of the pack Defence.

They brought in forwards from all over... none of whom are performing and likely are not playing. Some will not be back at Christmas or sooner. They traded away Rosebrook, Adams, Van Stien, Warren (with years to develop and play) in exchange for Varin who has less than 40 games left in the league. How has Rosebrook done LOL.

Many long-time fans no longer attend this train-wreck. Will the team survive the league's buy-out of its weak links in favour of Wellington and Kingston?
Buyouts of weak links?? This sounds very intriguing if it's true. Anyone else have comments/ info regarding this?

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Buyouts of weak links?? This sounds very intriguing if it's true. Anyone else have comments/ info regarding this?
Your query is similar to my own curiosity. However, the EMC has a recent article entitled, Municipality signs 3 year agreement with Kemptville 73s. This new agreement covers ice costs, logos, advertising and sponsorship.
http://www.emckemptville.ca/20121115...ptville+73%27s
This news article might suggest the 73s would be around till the end of the 14/15 season.

The OJHL has contracted the number of teams from, I believe, 31 down to 22 in recent years. The contractions were an effort to reduce the watering down of the teams and enhance the competitiveness along with making the teams more attractive to players to move to Ontario. Maybe the CCHL is considering something along the same lines.

The west has historically placed strong teams at the Royal Bank Cup (RBC) and that was even after the teams played best of seven series (Man. vs. Sask & Albera vs. BC). It is my understanding that those four leagues will now compete in a tourney similar to the Fred Page Cup and send two reps to the RBC. The reps might be fresher after not having to bash each other in a long 7 game series.

So should the CCHL go down to an eight team league?

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