Dumba seems to play a style that is better suited to a bigger player, and sometimes I'm not sure about his decisions.
This was the reason i was so turned off by him. I see him having major injuries because he doesnt have the body needed for his style.
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Originally Posted by Exit Dose
I liked what I saw out of Shinkaruk, tonight. This draft is just disgusting.
With the highend talent and depth that this draft has, I cannot wait to see what the Ducks' scouts can grab. Deepest draft since Madden came in, that's forsure.
So, I just got back from the rink. As I was headed to the ice, I met a friend of mine who's now working in the youth programs of our local DEL team. The team had made public an affiliation with the Anaheim Ducks back in the Brian Burke days, but it was never something really visible, and I didn't know whether it was still in effect. Anyway, knowing I'm a huge Ducks fan and know my 2 cents, he quickly introduced me to a co-worker and youth coach, who had been part of the staff at the Ducks' prospect camp this summer. We talked for a few moments about who he thought stood out there. I know, it's quite a bit outdated, but I thought I'd let you guys know, anyway. He generally felt the younger guys made more of an impression on him, like Lindholm, but most of all our camp-invite Ludvig Karlsson and especially Nic Kerdiles, who he was very high on. He told me he read on his facebook that he had some kind of issues, but didn't know any details and I got to clear that entire NCAA suspension mess up for him. Nothing groundbreaking, obviously, in the short talk headed for the ice, but it was definitely a nice surprise to find some connections to the Ducks this close by.
Maybe he should put up a petition to have Martin Madden fired. Sure he stocked our prospect pool with great talent, but where is the franchise center? Fire Madden!
Daniel from AC. Heavily criticized Ducks mgmt for taking Lindholm over Dumba, several times.
EDIT: And I think there was pre-draft article, something like: "Dumba is our guy". Or something in that tone.
It's what happens when people read about prospects too much and get the impression they've learned all there is to know to make such decisions. Ducks management and scouting staff get paid to make their evaluations and get things right. When fans like us read all the reports we get, the lines sometimes get blurry, and the meaning of a consensus becomes entirely lost to some. To a degree, I am sure it happens to all of us, but somebody wrighting for a blog really needs to know his limitations in terms of insight. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing on a pick, even early after, but noone should ever forget how meaningless pre-draft rankings end up over time.
Obviously, there's so many words left unspoken regarding how Dumba and Lindholm turn out, but it's quite remarkable how quickly Lindholm has changed a lot of minds since being drafted not even half a year ago. Reaches usually are treated like bad picks for a long time by other fans, and Lindholm receives great reviews.
As it stands now, the Ducks management were simply Hampus-hipsters - they liked him (a lot) before he became cool to the general public, and might be rewarded wealthily for it. And that's what good scouting does, and what general consensus isn't capable of.
Last edited by Vipers31: 11-16-2012 at 07:09 AM.
Reason: Hampus-Hipsters does sound better than Lindholm-hipsters, doesn't it?
Maybe he should put up a petition to have Martin Madden fired. Sure he stocked our prospect pool with great talent, but where is the franchise center? Fire Madden!
I wasn't on the Dumba hype train, but I did like Trouba. The ones I wanted, though, were Forsberg and Grigorenko. Lindholm is looking to be worth it so far though.
I don't where to put this, but since it pertains to Kerdiles somewhat I'll put it here. A UCLA five star rookie player was re-instated to play to miss only 10% of the games played.
"According to the facts of the case, which were agreed upon by the university and the NCAA staff, Muhammad accepted travel and lodging during unofficial visits to member schools. NCAA rules, which member schools create, state that student-athletes cannot receive benefits based on their athletic ability. NCAA amateurism rules are in place so that when student-athletes step onto the court, they are competing against other student-athletes who have met the same standards. "
- http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1437530
So ummm...I thought Kerdiles' situation was much weaker than this, but he's supposed to miss about a third of his games? Did I miss something here?
I don't where to put this, but since it pertains to Kerdiles somewhat I'll put it here. A UCLA five star rookie player was re-instated to play to miss only 10% of the games played.
"According to the facts of the case, which were agreed upon by the university and the NCAA staff, Muhammad accepted travel and lodging during unofficial visits to member schools. NCAA rules, which member schools create, state that student-athletes cannot receive benefits based on their athletic ability. NCAA amateurism rules are in place so that when student-athletes step onto the court, they are competing against other student-athletes who have met the same standards. "
- http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1437530
So ummm...I thought Kerdiles' situation was much weaker than this, but he's supposed to miss about a third of his games? Did I miss something here?
There were a few issues regarding Muhammad's suspension. The main issue was a family friend paid for a couple of his unofficial visits to Duke and North Carolina. Before he paid for those visits he contacted both schools to make sure it was alright and was told so. After he made it clear he wasn't going to Duke the NCAA got a complaint and got involved. According to the rules he should have never been suspended for this though, since all the proper forms were filled out.
Also there are reports that the boyfriend of one of the lawyers was overheard on a flight years ago talking about the case. He stated that they were going to suspend him no matter what because they were sure he was dirty. It didn't matter if they had the evidence or not. The person who overheard this sent out emails and signed an affidavit about it well before he was trouble with the NCAA so it painted them in a corner.
There were a few issues regarding Muhammad's suspension. The main issue was a family friend paid for a couple of his unofficial visits to Duke and North Carolina. Before he paid for those visits he contacted both schools to make sure it was alright and was told so. After he made it clear he wasn't going to Duke the NCAA got a complaint and got involved. According to the rules he should have never been suspended for this though, since all the proper forms were filled out.
Also there are reports that the boyfriend of one of the lawyers was overheard on a flight years ago talking about the case. He stated that they were going to suspend him no matter what because they were sure he was dirty. It didn't matter if they had the evidence or not. The person who overheard this sent out emails and signed an affidavit about it well before he was trouble with the NCAA so it painted them in a corner.
I'm still lost. If everything you said in the first paragraph is true, then why was he penalized for 3 games and cash?
Still don't think he's a top 10 talent but Will Carrier is third in QMJHL scoring. He has more points than Mackinnon, Grigorenko, Erne, Drouin and he still got left out of ISS's top 30. Something's gotta be up with that kid. When I watched him he looked great.
