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11-15-2012, 10:11 PM
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1. Nathan MacKinnon
2. Seth Jones
3. Sasha Barkov
4. Valery Nichushkin
5. Elias Lindholm
6. Hunter Shinkaruk
7. Jonathan Drouin
8. Sean Monahan
9. Rasmus Ristolainen
10. Curtis Lazar
11. Ryan Pulock
12. Nikita Zadorov
13. Artturi Lehkonen
14. Adam Erne
15. Andre Burakowsky
16. Kerby Rychel
17. Darnell Nurse
18. Anthony Mantha
19. Jacob De La Rose
20. Max Domi

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still can't believe nurse is that high.

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11-15-2012, 11:10 PM
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still can't believe nurse is that high.
THN has him at #12 on their rankings that just came out.

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11-15-2012, 11:17 PM
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The scoop on Domi (that I just heard) is that "he has diabetes and another medical condition....He has to wake up every day at 3am and shoot himself with insulin. But the kid is super driven"

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11-15-2012, 11:34 PM
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THN has him at #12 on their rankings that just came out.
He is also #2 on Brock's OHLProspects.blogspot.com site, and he has a pretty good track regarding his top 2 guys coming out of the OHL.

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11-15-2012, 11:36 PM
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Seems like posters and scouts alike have forgotten about Anthony Duclair. No way he falls out of the first round, probably settles into the top 15.
He will rise now that he's back in the lineup, he's a 1 round talent for sure!

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11-15-2012, 11:53 PM
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Is Monahan really that good or is he just an early developer (a la Jordan Staal)?
He's that good.

Ottawa is a horrible team, but Monohan is without a doubt the best player on the ice every game. Always around the net, always creating chances, and so smart. If he was on a better team that didn't require him to carry the load by himself, he would probably be 1st in the OHL in scoring.

Watch a couple 67's game and you'll see why he's so highly rated.

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11-16-2012, 01:13 AM
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I haven't been able to watch him play but is there a reason Josh Morrissey is that low? Last I heard he was having a great season and was moving up on scouts lists. Then again I haven't checked back on him in a while so things could have changed.

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11-16-2012, 01:14 AM
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Mantha, Carrier and Domi not in the Top 30?
Also Lindholm at 10, Pulock at 15 and Erne at 18 are all surprisingly low
Agreed, they should all be higher, or at least included.

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11-16-2012, 01:22 AM
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I browsed over the list and then once more. After the third time I was in shock seeing Nurse at #9. but I think the whole list is too OHL favored IMO.

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I haven't been able to watch him play but is there a reason Josh Morrissey is that low? Last I heard he was having a great season and was moving up on scouts lists. Then again I haven't checked back on him in a while so things could have changed.
He shouldn't be that low, because he definitely has been solid and has really risen in my list.

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11-16-2012, 02:53 AM
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I haven't been able to watch him play but is there a reason Josh Morrissey is that low? Last I heard he was having a great season and was moving up on scouts lists. Then again I haven't checked back on him in a while so things could have changed.
I've gotta think it's 2 things: The depth of really high end guys in this draft and the fact that he can be an adventure in his own end at times (from the games i've seen anyway).

Might just be me, but both Morissey and Theodore can be pretty easily compared to Pouliot. None are exactly defensive stalwarts, none have great size or toughness, and thats about it for their weaknesses. Pouliot is probably the best passer among them, but Morrisey is close and Theodore is strong passer as well. Morrisey is tougher/grittier than the other 2. Theodore is the more electric, finish an incredible rush with a goal type of player than the other 2.

I know i'd be blown away happy if the Canucks got Morrisey or Theodore with a pick in the 20's. If both of those guys go late first after Pouliot went top 10 the year before, i think that would be an indication of just how strong this draft year is.

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11-16-2012, 03:04 AM
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The scoop on Domi (that I just heard) is that "he has diabetes and another medical condition....He has to wake up every day at 3am and shoot himself with insulin. But the kid is super driven"
He has Diabetes, but so have other players (Bobby Clarke for example). I don't think it is a huge problem as he was also a top-rated prospect in the OHL draft.

I find it strange that ISS seems so down on Domi. He has some of the slickest moves in the draft, is built like a bulldog, and unlike most other smaller skilled players plays with tons of grit and heart. He is also quite adept defensively and has great playmaking skills. I'd say his size limits him from being a top 10 pick, but if I were a team looking for an offensively-minded forward in the 11-15 range, I wouldn't hesitate to scoop up Max

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11-16-2012, 03:05 AM
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I've gotta think it's 2 things: The depth of really high end guys in this draft and the fact that he can be an adventure in his own end at times (from the games i've seen anyway).

Might just be me, but both Morissey and Theodore can be pretty easily compared to Pouliot. None are exactly defensive stalwarts, none have great size or toughness, and thats about it for their weaknesses. Pouliot is probably the best passer among them, but Morrisey is close and Theodore is strong passer as well. Morrisey is tougher/grittier than the other 2. Theodore is the more electric, finish an incredible rush with a goal type of player than the other 2.

I know i'd be blown away happy if the Canucks got Morrisey or Theodore with a pick in the 20's. If both of those guys go late first after Pouliot went top 10 the year before, i think that would be an indication of just how strong this draft year is.
Theodore really isn't comparable to Pouliot imo. He's much better all around, but not as good offensively

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11-16-2012, 08:46 AM
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He has Diabetes, but so have other players (Bobby Clarke for example). I don't think it is a huge problem as he was also a top-rated prospect in the OHL draft.

I find it strange that ISS seems so down on Domi. He has some of the slickest moves in the draft, is built like a bulldog, and unlike most other smaller skilled players plays with tons of grit and heart. He is also quite adept defensively and has great playmaking skills. I'd say his size limits him from being a top 10 pick, but if I were a team looking for an offensively-minded forward in the 11-15 range, I wouldn't hesitate to scoop up Max
Diabetes wont prohibit someone from playing. Jeff Costello, Ottawa Senators draft pick and current Notre Dame Irish, wears an insulin pump when he plays.

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11-16-2012, 09:10 AM
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Domi won't fall past 20 in my opinion.

You have to watch Monahan several times to really appreciate how good he is.

Nurse has massive potential but there's no way he's above Pulock at this point.


It's great to see different lists (and we should). I have never been a fan of ISS rankings so I weigh theirs accordingly

I do agree with their top 5 100% but from there I have differing opinions

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11-16-2012, 09:29 AM
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He has Diabetes, but so have other players (Bobby Clarke for example). I don't think it is a huge problem as he was also a top-rated prospect in the OHL draft.

I find it strange that ISS seems so down on Domi. He has some of the slickest moves in the draft, is built like a bulldog, and unlike most other smaller skilled players plays with tons of grit and heart. He is also quite adept defensively and has great playmaking skills. I'd say his size limits him from being a top 10 pick, but if I were a team looking for an offensively-minded forward in the 11-15 range, I wouldn't hesitate to scoop up Max
i still think at the end of the day, Domi will go anywhere from 20 to 30 at the draft.

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He's that good.

Ottawa is a horrible team, but Monohan is without a doubt the best player on the ice every game. Always around the net, always creating chances, and so smart. If he was on a better team that didn't require him to carry the load by himself, he would probably be 1st in the OHL in scoring.

Watch a couple 67's game and you'll see why he's so highly rated.
This.

Monahan is a beast. I hope he gets traded to a contender so more people can really see the talent. Outside of him, Ottawa really only has Graovac and Ceci as real offensive threats.

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11-16-2012, 11:41 AM
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Watch Lindholm and Nichushkin become this year's Forsberg and Grigorenko, falling way too far.

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I cant wait to hear what Dynamo has to say about Keaton Thompson -D - USNDP being ranked ahead of Will Butcher and Ian McCoshen!!! Should be anarchy!

I have been a big fan of Santini since selects, this kid has the chance to be as legit as they come. love the Adam Foote comparisons by the way...

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Watch Lindholm and Nichushkin become this year's Forsberg and Grigorenko, falling way too far.
maybe all the way to the Buffalo Sabres again?

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I cant wait to hear what Dynamo has to say about Keaton Thompson -D - USNDP being ranked ahead of Will Butcher and Ian McCoshen!!! Should be anarchy!

I have been a big fan of Santini since selects, this kid has the chance to be as legit as they come. love the Adam Foote comparisons by the way...
there seems to be a big clump of U.S. d-men available in the upcoming draft, and quality ones.

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Watch Lindholm and Nichushkin become this year's Forsberg and Grigorenko, falling way too far.
Can't imagine Lindholm falling very far, unless he have a aweful wjc or something. He produces great in SEL in his draftyear, that's something only the best swedish forwards on the alltime list have done. He is on the same pace as Nicklas Bäckströ was in his draftyear. Everything can happen, but I doubt he slips.

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^he'd look good in an Oiler uni ! does he still play center? or did they move him to wing? do you know? are Hampus and Elias related?

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