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11-17-2012, 03:53 PM
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common sense. teams that win at 5 on 5 are usually better.
the teams that score more goals than the other team are ALWAYS better. how many skaters were on the ice at the time is irrelevant.

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11-17-2012, 03:56 PM
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they should also sign/draft/trade for Roope Talaja from Petrell's Finnish team....and call up Toni Rajala

"Toni Rajala plays it to Roope Talaja...back to Rajala...now Talaja with the puck.....sic feed from Talaja to Rajala....Toni goes roof daddy...off the cross-bar....Talaja on the rebound...puck is still free....Rajala pokes at it....Talaja crashes the net....GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAL......Roope Talaja gets the game winner...with the assist going to Toni Rajala" Don Cherry
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11-17-2012, 03:57 PM
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common sense. teams that win at 5 on 5 are usually better.
common sense says the team that scores the most goals wins. Doesn't matter how you score them.

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11-17-2012, 03:57 PM
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the teams that score more goals than the other team are ALWAYS better. how many skaters were on the ice at the time is irrelevant.
beat me to it lol

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11-17-2012, 03:58 PM
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common sense says the team that scores the most goals wins. Doesn't matter how you score them.
But how can this apply to a players individual CORSI?

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11-17-2012, 03:59 PM
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beat me to it lol
thats ok, its something that needs to be repeated often around here.

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11-17-2012, 04:01 PM
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predicting a win for the barons.

bold prediction: schultz gets a point

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11-17-2012, 04:10 PM
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Last year in the NHL penalties declined substantially, why would you rely on the PP when you might only get 1 per game?

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11-17-2012, 04:39 PM
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Last year in the NHL penalties declined substantially, why would you rely on the PP when you might only get 1 per game?
Last year the Oilers had 3.2 pp per game. Skilled players also tend to draw more penalties. And the Oilers scored about 26% of their goals on the pp.

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11-17-2012, 04:44 PM
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common sense says the team that scores the most goals wins. Doesn't matter how you score them.
true but then you rely on your power play. you rely on the other team to make mistakes. your gameplan then isnt to dictate style of play but play passive until you get a power play. and more often than not, when youre getting beat 5 on 5 it is you that takes penalties not the other way around.

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11-17-2012, 04:44 PM
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Last year in the NHL penalties declined substantially, why would you rely on the PP when you might only get 1 per game?
Why would you want to have a bad PP?

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11-17-2012, 04:49 PM
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true but then you rely on your power play. you rely on the other team to make mistakes. your gameplan then isnt to dictate style of play but play passive until you get a power play. and more often than not, when youre getting beat 5 on 5 it is you that takes penalties not the other way around.
bottom line you want to score 5 on 5 and on the pp. It seems that some poeple around here are actually disapointed we score on the pp though. I agree, I want to score more 5 on 5. However, I am more than happy that at least we have had a good pp.

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true but then you rely on your power play. you rely on the other team to make mistakes. your gameplan then isnt to dictate style of play but play passive until you get a power play. and more often than not, when youre getting beat 5 on 5 it is you that takes penalties not the other way around.
Why play passive? MacRenney isn't the coach anymore. Play aggressive. Force the other team to take penalties. They are still kids. RNH, Eberle and Hall will all be elite 5 on 5 NHL players in time. People read way too much into one posters constant over reactions to a few early season AHL games.

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Why would you want to have a bad PP?
lol, again beat me to it.

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11-17-2012, 04:51 PM
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Why play passive? MacRenney isn't the coach anymore. Play aggressive. Force the other team to take penalties. They are still kids. RNH, Eberle and Hall will all be elite 5 on 5 NHL players in time. People read way too much into one posters constant over reactions to a few early season AHL games.
some thing that is really underestimated is that a pp is more important than an enforcer. If you have a great pp the other team won't take cheap shots. Having a great pp is a massive benifit. Players will give you a little more room and won't take liberties with your stars. If you can shoot 95% from the free throw line in Basket ball, it means you won't be going there that often and players will always let you get one more step on them when defending you.

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11-17-2012, 05:12 PM
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Why play passive? MacRenney isn't the coach anymore. Play aggressive. Force the other team to take penalties. They are still kids. RNH, Eberle and Hall will all be elite 5 on 5 NHL players in time. People read way too much into one posters constant over reactions to a few early season AHL games.
because if they played aggressive then they would be a good 5 on 5 team. thats the problem. its that they dont.

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11-17-2012, 05:23 PM
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common sense. teams that win at 5 on 5 are usually better.
Teams that win are usually better.

How's that for common sense?

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11-17-2012, 05:27 PM
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Teams that win are usually better.

How's that for common sense?
this is a bold statement IATL. I hope you have evidence to back this up

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This guy may have a bit of a misconception about how easy things have been for the fab four, but I think this is an interesting article on what it is like for NHL'ers in the AHl this year.

http://www.thetelegram.com/Opinion/C...nting-myself/1

Henrique has 4 points in 12 games. Adam Larsson has 7 points.


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Teams that win are usually better.

How's that for common sense?
what if we devised some sort of "league" in which a team could be ..."better"...by amassing the most wins?

and...perhaps...after...have some sort of tournament to determine which team is extra-better...? maybe...the team that won the tournament?

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11-17-2012, 05:32 PM
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Teams that win are usually better.

How's that for common sense?
so the barons were a better team than milwaukee last game?

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what if we devised some sort of "league" in which a team could be ..."better"...by amassing the most wins?

and...perhaps...after...have some sort of tournament to determine which team is extra-better...? maybe...the team that won the tournament?
ok hold on, let me get this straight. We use your ability to win as a measure of how good you are? Then we let teams play each other and keep track of who wins and who loses. We then add up the number of wins vs the number of losses and the team with the most wins we consider the best?

crazy idea, but it could just work.

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Last year in the NHL penalties declined substantially, why would you rely on the PP when you might only get 1 per game?
You realize the team that won the President's Trophy the last 2 years relies heavily on their PP right?

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so the barons were a better team than milwaukee last game?
They won the game, did they not?
There were plenty of games last season when the Oilers were the better team but lost, a loss is a loss and a win is a win no matter how you slice it.

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