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11-13-2012, 02:17 PM
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This thread hurts my eyes. I'm reading about a bunch of good and talented players being called tomato cans.

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11-13-2012, 02:32 PM
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I'll go year by year in my opinion of worst player to score 30 that year. From that list I'll pick my overall winner.

2002-2003- Richard Zednik
2003-2004- Robert Lang
2005-2006- Anson Carter HM- Marek Svatos
2006-2007- Chris Clark
2007-2008- Brad Boyes
2008-2009- Bryan Little
2009-2010- Patric Hornqvist
2010-2011- Nicolai Kulemin
2011-2012- Max Pacioretty (This is a hard one given we've had no time to examine if they'll fall off so please try not to roast me on this)

So I'm going with a grand Champion of Anson Carter. He had a few other 20G seasons in his career, but he was never a real threat on the ice. I can see how people would disagree but that's why opinions are like a certain hole on the human body. Everyone's got one and they all stink.
Richard Zednik was pretty good until you know what. I don't think he falls into the category.

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11-13-2012, 02:38 PM
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11-13-2012, 02:45 PM
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I disagree with all the Svatos hate going on here.

For a stretch of 5 years the guy had on average 40 point seasons (averaging 66 games), which isn't too bad for a small 3rd liner type guy.

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11-13-2012, 05:14 PM
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I'll go year by year in my opinion of worst player to score 30 that year. From that list I'll pick my overall winner.

2002-2003- Richard Zednik
2003-2004- Robert Lang
2005-2006- Anson Carter HM- Marek Svatos
2006-2007- Chris Clark
2007-2008- Brad Boyes
2008-2009- Bryan Little
2009-2010- Patric Hornqvist
2010-2011- Nicolai Kulemin
2011-2012- Max Pacioretty (This is a hard one given we've had no time to examine if they'll fall off so please try not to roast me on this)

So I'm going with a grand Champion of Anson Carter. He had a few other 20G seasons in his career, but he was never a real threat on the ice. I can see how people would disagree but that's why opinions are like a certain hole on the human body. Everyone's got one and they all stink.
Max Pacioretty? He's 23 y/o and was coming off an injury-shortened season from the now infamous Chara/stanchion hit. If anything he's only going to get better and stronger as a power forward in this league. Don't mistake a fisrt-time 30 goal scorer for a fluke.

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11-13-2012, 05:32 PM
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In my opinion that would be either Mark Parrish who did it in 02 or Jussi Jokinen who did it in 10. Clark is, IMCO, easily a better player then either or those two.
Saying Clark is better than The Juice just wrong. And Parrish was a superior player to Clark. I mean, have you even watched him play?

Edit. And if someone is so "one-dimensional" that he only knows how to pot 25-30 goals a season... Well, send your worthless players or even a couple of them in my direction, I'd take them on my team just because I've got a good heart


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11-13-2012, 06:12 PM
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I'll go year by year in my opinion of worst player to score 30 that year. From that list I'll pick my overall winner.

2002-2003- Richard Zednik
2003-2004- Robert Lang
2005-2006- Anson Carter HM- Marek Svatos
2006-2007- Chris Clark
2007-2008- Brad Boyes
2008-2009- Bryan Little
2009-2010- Patric Hornqvist
2010-2011- Nicolai Kulemin
2011-2012- Max Pacioretty (This is a hard one given we've had no time to examine if they'll fall off so please try not to roast me on this)

So I'm going with a grand Champion of Anson Carter. He had a few other 20G seasons in his career, but he was never a real threat on the ice. I can see how people would disagree but that's why opinions are like a certain hole on the human body. Everyone's got one and they all stink.
It has to be Clark easily.

And Robert Lang for 2003-04, really? 30 goal and 79 points, finishing 9th in scoring? He's the worst 30-goal scorer? He was leading the league in scoring 65 games into the previous season. He's the only player ever to be traded while leading the league in scoring. Glen Murray or Milan Hejduk are easily better picks.

Also, Svatos only played 61 games but scored 32 goals and 50 points. While the rest of his career he averaged 15-9-24 over 61 games (20-13-33 in 82), that's still better than Clark's 11-13-24 per 82 games outside of his big year (8-10-18 in 61); Clark's per-82 average, including his big year, was 14-15-29 (10-11-23 in 61). Svatos' career per-82 mark is 24-17-41 (18-13-31 in 61). Svatos basically had a year where he played what would have been a full 82-game season for him, but compressed it into 61 games; it's not the only time he was on 30-goal pace, and he never hit the 70-game mark in seven seasons despite scoring at exactly 0.5 PPG.

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11-13-2012, 06:14 PM
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I disagree with all the Svatos hate going on here.

For a stretch of 5 years the guy had on average 40 point seasons (averaging 66 games), which isn't too bad for a small 3rd liner type guy.
For a seven season career he averaged exactly 41 points in 82 games. That's a solid career by any standard other than HHOF.

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11-14-2012, 02:09 PM
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Hilarious thread

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11-14-2012, 02:31 PM
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Kudelski never had a 40 goals season nor 30.
Incorrect. Kudelski scored 40 in 93/94. 26 with Ottawa, 14 with Florida.

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11-17-2012, 05:05 PM
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When Jason Blake scored 40 goals, he was the best forward on a mediocre team that actually made the playoffs. Granted, that team would've been horribly poor w/o Rick DiPietro. But if any of these guys were 'the best forward on a playoff team', they don't deserve to be on this list. Jason Blake actually rose to the occasion during that year, and scored goals when they mattered.

He scored 30 before 2002, but Mariusz Czerkawski was the absolute *worst* 30 goal scorer for the obvious reason that he'd turn the puck over in the worst possible ways leading to at least as many goals for the opposition.

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He went from scoring 40 goals... to 15 playing with Mats Sundin

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11-17-2012, 05:50 PM
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peter forsberg.

oh wait, the most tragic story in all of hockey and the best player of his era couldn't even hit 30 goals since 2002. my bad.
Best player of his era?

Sakic, Jagr, Selanne, Bure, Karyia and Lindros all say hello.

If you are being serious about Forsberg being the best of his era then not sure what to say to you.

Forsberg actually topped at 30 in his career even in the high scoring 1995-96. In comparison, Jagr scored 30 goals or more 15x in his career.

I think Jagr was easily the best player of that era.

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11-17-2012, 06:06 PM
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Best player of his era?

Sakic, Jagr, Selanne, Bure, Karyia and Lindros all say hello.

If you are being serious about Forsberg being the best of his era then not sure what to say to you.

Forsberg actually topped at 30 in his career even in the high scoring 1995-96. In comparison, Jagr scored 30 goals or more 15x in his career.

I think Jagr was easily the best player of that era.
Well Forsberg wasnt the best but he was undoubtedly one of the best players of his era.

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11-17-2012, 06:23 PM
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Jonas Hoglund was 1 goal away from winning this hands down
Hmm, he was the first name that came to my mind, but I guess he doesn't qualify. Its speaks volumes about mats sundin, what he was able to do with guys like hoglund and berezin.

Chris Clark got 30? My vote has to go there. Not that he been a "bad" player, but scoring isn't his thing.

I don't agree with names like Brad Boyes on this list. He has been a one dimensional player, and that diemsion has been scoring goals. When that dimension eludes players like him, they are utterly useless... but Boyes had multiple seasons where he made the most of his one dimensional abilities. Don't let his form from the past couple seasons fool you

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