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11-18-2012, 01:42 PM
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Mostly off of someone's skates or secondary assits that amount to nothing in the real world. First Star my butt another Con Job by Leafs management to prop up their useless Draft Picks.

Who should be fired Eakins for not developing prospects like Kadri, Colborne, Blacker, Ross, or Ryan or Morrison for Drafting this bunch off under achievers.
I think you should be fired

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11-18-2012, 01:45 PM
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I think you should be fired
You don't really think that these bunch will ever succeed to any degree in the NHL.

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11-18-2012, 01:50 PM
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You don't really think that these bunch will ever succeed to any degree in the NHL.
What is your definition of succeeding?

Do I think that these guys will become stars or first liners? No

Do I think that they may become 2nd/3rd liners? For sure.

If a prospect only "succeeded" if they became a first liner, then the majority of prospects in the nhl would be considered busts

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11-18-2012, 01:56 PM
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Nice to see it only takes 10pts in 4 games to quiet MOST of the bust talk.

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11-18-2012, 01:57 PM
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What is your definition of succeeding?

Do I think that these guys will become stars or first liners? No

Do I think that they may become 2nd/3rd liners? For sure.

If a prospect only "succeeded" if they became a first liner, then the majority of prospects in the nhl would be considered busts
So if you can't draft or develop 1st or 2nd liners how will you ever make the playoffs, other teams don't give up their 1st and 2nd liners as we have found out in the past. We've already got a roster full of 3rd and 4th liners.

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11-18-2012, 02:17 PM
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Mostly off of someone's skates or secondary assits that amount to nothing in the real world. First Star my butt another Con Job by Leafs management to prop up their useless Draft Picks.

Who should be fired Eakins for not developing prospects like Kadri, Colborne, Blacker, Ross, or Ryan or Morrison for Drafting this bunch off under achievers.
First you complain about the total. Now that the total is in line with where he should be, you complain about the quality. What next? He's the only plus player in the top 4 in scoring on our team.

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11-18-2012, 02:20 PM
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So if you can't draft or develop 1st or 2nd liners how will you ever make the playoffs, other teams don't give up their 1st and 2nd liners as we have found out in the past. We've already got a roster full of 3rd and 4th liners.
We just drafted Rielly didn't we?

We got Lupul, Kessel, JVR, Phaneuf, Gardiner (all top talents) through trade. Drafting is not the only way to get top talents.

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11-18-2012, 02:23 PM
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We just drafted Rielly didn't we?

We got Lupul, Kessel, JVR, Phaneuf, Gardiner (all top talents) through trade. Drafting is not the only way to get top talents.
They're all bad because the team who drafted them didn't feel like it was worth the effort to hang onto them. The only legit players are the ones who finish playing their career for the team that drafted them.


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11-18-2012, 02:39 PM
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So if you can't draft or develop 1st or 2nd liners how will you ever make the playoffs, other teams don't give up their 1st and 2nd liners as we have found out in the past. We've already got a roster full of 3rd and 4th liners.
The problem with this post is that your assuming that all of our prospects will top out as 3rd or 4th liners. I can understand how the leafs performance over the last several years could make a fan angry, but to give up on every prospect we have in the system calling them fourth liners just seems a touch extreme. The grass always seems greener on the other side, but when the leafs finally do make it back into contention again I want you to look back at this post and think to yourself was this really the best way to vent my frustrations about the team.

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11-18-2012, 03:05 PM
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Just scored a goal. Pretty sick shot

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11-18-2012, 03:06 PM
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Just scored a goal. Pretty sick shot
Softest goal I've ever seen.

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11-18-2012, 03:10 PM
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What is your definition of succeeding?

Do I think that these guys will become stars or first liners? No

Do I think that they may become 2nd/3rd liners? For sure.

If a prospect only "succeeded" if they became a first liner, then the majority of prospects in the nhl would be considered busts
It's a moving bar such that whatever happens the player is not successful.

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11-18-2012, 03:46 PM
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Kadri makes it 2 to 0 marlies. Great wrap around. He has a great wrap around. He is much stronger. Freebird, u are too funny. Did u even see the assists. 3 of them were primary. Great passes by nazem.

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11-18-2012, 03:50 PM
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We just drafted Rielly didn't we?

We got Lupul, Kessel, JVR, Phaneuf, Gardiner (all top talents) through trade. Drafting is not the only way to get top talents.
Lupul is a top talent? Really? Your a genius. JVR is top talent too? Explain yourself. Explain to me how Phaneuf is top talent? Please describe in detail to prove your point. In fact forget it, those types of statements show your Hockey IQ or LACK OF.

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11-18-2012, 04:04 PM
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Lupul is a top talent? Really? Your a genius. JVR is top talent too? Explain yourself. Explain to me how Phaneuf is top talent? Please describe in detail to prove your point. In fact forget it, those types of statements show your Hockey IQ or LACK OF.
Phaneuf was an Allstar last year. I'm pretty sure that makes him a top talent.

Lupul was PPG. That's a top talent.

JVR is debateable, but his potential SCREAMS top level talent

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11-18-2012, 04:06 PM
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Lupul is a top talent? Really? Your a genius. JVR is top talent too? Explain yourself. Explain to me how Phaneuf is top talent? Please describe in detail to prove your point. In fact forget it, those types of statements show your Hockey IQ or LACK OF.
The first two were funny but the Phaneuf one cracks me up. Yeah, a guy tied for 9th in scoring amongst defenseman isn't a top talent

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