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11-17-2012, 02:51 PM
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6 GP, 3-7-10P isn't good?
I'm talking about the way he plays, not his stats.

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11-17-2012, 06:01 PM
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Has he started to truly dominate ?

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I'm talking about the way he plays, not his stats.
Is it he's not adapting well to the N.A. game or is it an attitude problem? Simon Larouche of hockeyprospect had tweeted last night he was lazy. If it's his inability to transition to a new way of playing, is that not to be expected of him this early in his time playing in the Q?

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11-17-2012, 08:53 PM
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Has he started to truly dominate ?
No.

Grigorenko and him weren't playing well together. They got separated and I thought he was starting to get better.

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11-17-2012, 08:59 PM
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Is it he's not adapting well to the N.A. game or is it an attitude problem? Simon Larouche of hockeyprospect had tweeted last night he was lazy. If it's his inability to transition to a new way of playing, is that not to be expected of him this early in his time playing in the Q?
I'd say it is more about learning a new system and getting comfortable on a smaller ice. He also mentionned how the game was much faster than what he was used to. I don't think that's lazyness.

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11-18-2012, 06:16 PM
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Sorensen will stay in the lineup from now on so Kucherov will be the odd man out until further notice.

Sorensen is a more complete player.

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11-18-2012, 09:45 PM
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Sorensen will stay in the lineup from now on so Kucherov will be the odd man out until further notice.

Sorensen is a more complete player.
Will this close the Russian door in QC ?

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11-18-2012, 10:14 PM
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Sorensen will stay in the lineup from now on so Kucherov will be the odd man out until further notice.

Sorensen is a more complete player.
Horrible management; why even bring him over then?

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11-18-2012, 10:18 PM
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Horrible management; why even bring him over then?
In case there is no lock out and Grigorenko ends up playing in the NHL?

Patrick isn't a bad manager, he knows what he's doing.

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11-18-2012, 10:21 PM
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Horrible management; why even bring him over then?
Because he never thought there would be a lock out. Grigorenko wasn't supposed to be there.

I'd see him traded to Blainville-Boisbriand. They already have plenty of grit, they need talent.

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11-18-2012, 10:25 PM
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Because he never thought there would be a lock out. Grigorenko wasn't supposed to be there.

I'd see him traded to Blainville-Boisbriand. They already have plenty of grit, they need talent.
Yeah I understand that, but never was it certain he'd make the NHL.

But any way, it is a developmental league, they should trade him cause the kid needs to play.

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11-18-2012, 10:33 PM
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Yeah I understand that, but never was it certain he'd make the NHL.

But any way, it is a developmental league, they should trade him cause the kid needs to play.
There was no certainty Grigorenko would have made the NHL but without a lock out, Roy would have known what to do wether or not Grigs makes the NHL. The moment Buffalo sends Grigorenko back to Quebec, Roy has 14 days to trade one of the three. As long as Buffalo doesn't confirm Grigorenko will stay in Quebec even if the lock out ends, Roy can't be 100% sure he'll be back.

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There was no certainty Grigorenko would have made the NHL but without a lock out, Roy would have known what to do wether or not Grigs makes the NHL. The moment Buffalo sends Grigorenko back to Quebec, Roy has 14 days to trade one of the three. As long as Buffalo doesn't confirm Grigorenko will stay in Quebec even if the lock out ends, Roy can't be 100% sure he'll be back.
I know it's in the best interest of the Remparts to keep all 3 for the time being. However I don't think is in the best interest of the players development to be scratched. He should be playing . I just wished they would trade him, that's all.

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Will this close the Russian door in QC ?
Probably.. Roy wins in the short run, but is digging a deep long run whole. Especially with competition from Larionov over in the OHL, kiss the top Russians goodbye in Quebec City if this drags out.

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Probably.. Roy wins in the short run, but is digging a deep long run whole. Especially with competition from Larionov over in the OHL, kiss the top Russians goodbye in Quebec City if this drags out.
Remparts have had misses in the past with Russians. Who can forget the whole Balmochnykh fiasco. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Remparts had great success with other Russians in the past. I don't think it's a black or white thing.

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11-19-2012, 12:24 AM
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Remparts have had misses in the past with Russians. Who can forget the whole Balmochnykh fiasco. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Remparts had great success with other Russians in the past. I don't think it's a black or white thing.
Churilov and Bashkirov twins left the team as well.

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11-19-2012, 01:30 AM
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Honestly, I hope the Remparts find a taker and soon. Kucherov should be playing....this is absolutely horrible for his development.

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to run away from the khl only to be benched in QMJHL. priceless.

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11-19-2012, 10:06 AM
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Remparts have had misses in the past with Russians. Who can forget the whole Balmochnykh fiasco. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Remparts had great success with other Russians in the past. I don't think it's a black or white thing.
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Churilov and Bashkirov twins left the team as well.
This isn't a Russian player 'hit or miss' issue.

The problem is a really talented kid made a huge commitment to Quebec and crossed the ocean, only to find out he's in/out of the lineup because the import quota was already maxed.

Wow, I'd be pissed if I was Kucherov.

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Because he never thought there would be a lock out. Grigorenko wasn't supposed to be there.

I'd see him traded to Blainville-Boisbriand. They already have plenty of grit, they need talent.
Bouchard passed on Kabanov and explicitely said he didn't want that kind of guy in his locker room. I doubt he'd give up assets for Kucherov.

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11-19-2012, 11:14 AM
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This isn't a Russian player 'hit or miss' issue.

The problem is a really talented kid made a huge commitment to Quebec and crossed the ocean, only to find out he's in/out of the lineup because the import quota was already maxed.

Wow, I'd be pissed if I was Kucherov.
Well, there are other ways for Kucherov. He can leave the team and the Bolts can then assign him to the AHL. If he's staying, then Roy must have made a commitment to him.

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Bouchard passed on Kabanov and explicitely said he didn't want that kind of guy in his locker room. I doubt he'd give up assets for Kucherov.
He was talking about Kabanov's attitude. Kucherov isn't the same kind of person, as far as I know.

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He was talking about Kabanov's attitude. Kucherov isn't the same kind of person, as far as I know.
Attitude on and off the ice. From what I have seen, Kucherov is even worst than Kabanov for his defensive play and overall effort. Definitely not a Bouchard type of player.

Besides, would Roy really consider sending Kucherov to Boisbriand? He'd be better off just scratching him than letting him play for his rivals.

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Well, there are other ways for Kucherov. He can leave the team and the Bolts can then assign him to the AHL. If he's staying, then Roy must have made a commitment to him.
how can you see Kucherov plays in the AHL if he cant even have an impact in the LHJMQ...

very very high hypes about him but the really is this guy in NA style is totally invisible. one of the softest europeen player i ever seen since long long time in the CHL.

if he dont start to work maybe a bust like Kugryshev...

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I'm not the biggest Kucherov fan... but I'm not going to talk about bust. He only had 6 games so far... way to early to tell how he is going to turn up!

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