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05-11-2012, 09:28 AM
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Hopefully Portland can win Saturday and Sunday or Edmonton advances to the Memorial Cup final four.

Whenever his season ends I expect him to sign his ELC.
If he signs his ELC, is he still eligible to go back to juniors if he doesnt make the team? And if he does, would that count as a year on his ELC?

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05-11-2012, 09:43 AM
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If he signs his ELC, is he still eligible to go back to juniors if he doesnt make the team? And if he does, would that count as a year on his ELC?
Yes and no, so it is basically the same situation as Pietrangelo. We will certainly sign him this summer, which means that if he doesn't play 10 or more games next season the first year of his ELC will be 2013/14.

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05-11-2012, 01:46 PM
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Signing him is mostly a formality. They have two years to sign him so if it doesn't happen this spring then it just has to happen before a little over a year from now. It's not some big pressing thing but it's the kind of news I'll think more likely than not comes this year. And yes, lots of guys in junior have signed an ELC. It doesn't start its clock until he has his first pro season (which as Prometheus said is the 9/10 game thing).

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Portland wins on a late third period goal, forces Game 7 tomorrow. No points for Rattie or Bartschi.

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05-13-2012, 09:37 PM
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Portland lost, were never in the game. Rattie finishes with 33 points in 21 playoff games (19 goals, 14 assists). Definitely not bothered by pressure.

Next season Portland loses some talent but get Seth Jones, who looks like a defensive phenom. Hopefully Rattie signs (though he still has a full year), has a solid summer of muscle-building, attends a Blues camp that shows him what he's still got left to work on, and earns a WJC spot.

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05-14-2012, 12:09 AM
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In all likelihood, Rattie won't make the Blues next year. Looking at your lineup, you have no reason to bring him up at this point, as he's a player that has to play in an offensive role to be successful. So, unless he cracks your top-4 wingers next year, he'll be back in Portland for what should be a dominating year. My assumption is that he and Brenden Leipsic will combine for a solid duo, but the team is definitely heading for rebuild mode, which might mean a trade in Rattie's future.

The team will be losing Sven Bartschi, Brad Ross, Oliver Gabriel, Marcel Noebels, and Cam Reid up front. On defense, they're losing captain William Wrenn, draft picks Troy Rutkowski, Joe Morrow, and goaltender Mac Carruth. For those keeping score, that's two thirds of the top line, the entire second line, their top-three defensemen, and their starting goaltender.

The best thing for Rattie to do next year is to simply continue to improve while playing his game. My guess is that the league will see a pretty substantial drop in scoring next year (I could be wrong, of course), and that Rattie's point total will probably sag a little bit with the loss of linemate Bartschi. If that's the case, the important thing will be whether or not he continues to improve as an overall player.

I'll do my best to drop in with periodic updates for you guys, though my schedule will be very tight with the glut of top prospects coming out of the WHL next year. If anyone has any questions/comments for me, feel free to shoot me a PM, and I'll gladly respond or post on the board.

Cheers

PS - congrats on the building season and the playoff run. Hopefully the Jackets will provide some competition at some point in the distant future.

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05-14-2012, 09:04 AM
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In all likelihood, Rattie won't make the Blues next year. Looking at your lineup, you have no reason to bring him up at this point, as he's a player that has to play in an offensive role to be successful. So, unless he cracks your top-4 wingers next year, he'll be back in Portland for what should be a dominating year. My assumption is that he and Brenden Leipsic will combine for a solid duo, but the team is definitely heading for rebuild mode, which might mean a trade in Rattie's future.

The team will be losing Sven Bartschi, Brad Ross, Oliver Gabriel, Marcel Noebels, and Cam Reid up front. On defense, they're losing captain William Wrenn, draft picks Troy Rutkowski, Joe Morrow, and goaltender Mac Carruth. For those keeping score, that's two thirds of the top line, the entire second line, their top-three defensemen, and their starting goaltender.

The best thing for Rattie to do next year is to simply continue to improve while playing his game. My guess is that the league will see a pretty substantial drop in scoring next year (I could be wrong, of course), and that Rattie's point total will probably sag a little bit with the loss of linemate Bartschi. If that's the case, the important thing will be whether or not he continues to improve as an overall player.

I'll do my best to drop in with periodic updates for you guys, though my schedule will be very tight with the glut of top prospects coming out of the WHL next year. If anyone has any questions/comments for me, feel free to shoot me a PM, and I'll gladly respond or post on the board.

Cheers

PS - congrats on the building season and the playoff run. Hopefully the Jackets will provide some competition at some point in the distant future.
Thanks for the insight, sir... and we will definitely be asking questions about Rattie's development.

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05-14-2012, 01:43 PM
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In all likelihood, Rattie won't make the Blues next year. Looking at your lineup, you have no reason to bring him up at this point, as he's a player that has to play in an offensive role to be successful. So, unless he cracks your top-4 wingers next year, he'll be back in Portland for what should be a dominating year. My assumption is that he and Brenden Leipsic will combine for a solid duo, but the team is definitely heading for rebuild mode, which might mean a trade in Rattie's future.

The team will be losing Sven Bartschi, Brad Ross, Oliver Gabriel, Marcel Noebels, and Cam Reid up front. On defense, they're losing captain William Wrenn, draft picks Troy Rutkowski, Joe Morrow, and goaltender Mac Carruth. For those keeping score, that's two thirds of the top line, the entire second line, their top-three defensemen, and their starting goaltender.

The best thing for Rattie to do next year is to simply continue to improve while playing his game. My guess is that the league will see a pretty substantial drop in scoring next year (I could be wrong, of course), and that Rattie's point total will probably sag a little bit with the loss of linemate Bartschi. If that's the case, the important thing will be whether or not he continues to improve as an overall player.

I'll do my best to drop in with periodic updates for you guys, though my schedule will be very tight with the glut of top prospects coming out of the WHL next year. If anyone has any questions/comments for me, feel free to shoot me a PM, and I'll gladly respond or post on the board.

Cheers

PS - congrats on the building season and the playoff run. Hopefully the Jackets will provide some competition at some point in the distant future.
Thanks for the update! Hopefully the competition isn't that far in the future.

I think it might be a good thing for Rattie for half the team to leave. It'll put more pressure on Rattie, which should be a good thing for his development. Hopefully he is up to the challenge, makes the WJC, then is traded to a contender for a long playoff run.

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11-19-2012, 09:24 AM
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How's Rattie look this year compared to last year

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11-19-2012, 09:28 AM
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How's Rattie look this year compared to last year
He had a horrid statistical start to the year. But after the first couple of weeks he is back on pace to what he did last year. Voted the top canadian player for the WHL in the 2nd subways series game agains Russia.

He is showing better development on the d side of things and is also showing that he didn't depend on the the Flames prospect to put up points. One of the top forwards in WHL so far this year. He is really progressing.

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11-19-2012, 09:54 AM
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The Blues are in a position they have never been in before. A new owner with a strong young core of players at the NHL level, a solid pipeline of prospects and all their draft choices intact.(even a few extra picks) Rattie looks to be a legit scoring winger and it's easy to get excited about Jaskin as well.

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11-24-2012, 09:42 AM
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Rattie with 2 assists yesterday gives him 34 points in his last 18 games.

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11-24-2012, 02:46 PM
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Thanks for resurrecting this thread, great to see Rattie's progression this year. I just hope they don't deal him, perhaps to Calgary, for the coveted Left Handed Defencemen to play with Petro.

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11-25-2012, 08:43 AM
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Another 3 assists for him last night. 15-23-38 & +20 on the season now.

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11-25-2012, 09:35 AM
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Who tallies more points this year Rattie or Jaskin?

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Jaškin is 19-21-40 & +4 in his 25 games. Rattie has played 24 games for his 38 points.

Jaškin is doing that on a more defensive team as well. But it is hard enough to compare player totals on different teams, never mind when they are in different Leagues!

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11-25-2012, 09:33 PM
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Jaškin is 19-21-40 & +4 in his 25 games. Rattie has played 24 games for his 38 points.

Jaškin is doing that on a more defensive team as well. But it is hard enough to compare player totals on different teams, never mind when they are in different Leagues!
It's easier for forwards to accumulate masses of points in The Q. I think that, at this point, Rattie's 38 points in 24 WHL games is more impressive than Jaškin's 40 points in 25 QMJHL games. But, they both are playing well, And that's what is important.

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12-01-2012, 04:31 AM
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Rattie with a goal and a helper last night.

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It's easier for forwards to accumulate masses of points in The Q. I think that, at this point, Rattie's 38 points in 24 WHL games is more impressive than Jaškin's 40 points in 25 QMJHL games. But, they both are playing well, And that's what is important.
It is a tough comparison to make, but I don't think you can look at League wide scoring solely. I think the gap between scoring in the Q and other Leagues is closing, and even then the Wildcats are averaging 0.7 goals per game less in the Q than the Winterhawks are in the WHL.

The OHL, WHL and Q are all so different though.

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Goal and an assist for Rattie last night.

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