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11-18-2012, 12:31 PM
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Athanasiou 0+1, +2
Quine 0+0, -1
Paterson 23/26 saves, 4-1 loss
Nedomlel 0+0, +/- 0
Marshall 0+0, +1
De Haas 1+1
Greece Lightning +2, not bad. De Haas with a solid night too.

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11-18-2012, 12:37 PM
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Interesting article on Nestrasil.

http://www.toledofreepress.com/2012/...-fundamentals/



Sounds like he's learning and working on his weaknesses. In the end though, it might not mean squat for the Red Wings organization.

What do we think? Does he still have a shot at the NHL? Or is he a career AHLer at best?
Yeah he seems like an AHL'er to me. I had hopes as he was one of our first forward prospects with size who committed to playing in NA. He hasn't developed to the point to make him relevant for a spot in Detroit. I hope he can develop to the point of being an AHL'er and maybe getting the cup of coffee now and then with the DRW. I think the ceiling is probably a Matt Ellis level player.

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11-18-2012, 08:38 PM
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It seems kids with size sometimes develop much later, so at 21 I'm not about to write him off just yet. Not saying I expect much from him but I think he's really still in the unknown development zone. He could really explode in the next 2-3 years. I think of a guy like LeClair who didn't really establish himself in the NHL until he was 23 and didn't become a star until 26. Obviously LeClair was much more developed at 21 than Nestrasil but it's just an example of how big body players sometimes need lots of extra development time to really hit stride. Heck, Franzen was 26 before he cracked the NHL and went through most of his early 20s as a non-prospect to the hockey world. I don't think any team seriously considered drafting him prior to 2004 when he was already 25.

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11-18-2012, 10:03 PM
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I wouldn't write of Nestrasil just yet. He does seem to have consistency issues, however.

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11-19-2012, 01:58 AM
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I think it was a few years ago Nestrasil was on the WJC-18 team and, to me, looked like he couldn't be contained and looked to be one of the harder working forwards out there and potted in result potted a few goals. It seems his stock has decreased since then, but no doubt the work ethics, skill and hockey IQ is there. I thought he was fun to watch and thought he had great potential. Not sure what's going on now.

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11-19-2012, 02:40 AM
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I think it was a few years ago Nestrasil was on the WJC-18 team and, to me, looked like he couldn't be contained and looked to be one of the harder working forwards out there and potted in result potted a few goals. It seems his stock has decreased since then, but no doubt the work ethics, skill and hockey IQ is there. I thought he was fun to watch and thought he had great potential. Not sure what's going on now.
Sometimes with bigger guys you just see the scoring touch, maybe physical play and think the rest will come along. But being a big body isn't enough in the pros. Flaws to skating, defense aswell as hockey IQ gets exploited. Skating was always an issue for Nestrasil was it not? Anyway, I think it's fair to say Nestrasil is still taking his time with these elements but is improving. He's probably ready to play with the Griffins again if the lockout ends, and next year he could be a solid top9 guy. But it's a slow and long road to the NHL for a guy struggling to put up big points in the ECHL.

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11-19-2012, 03:01 AM
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Hudon -1
Athanasiou 1+1, +2.
Nedolmel -1
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11-19-2012, 07:22 AM
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This Russian site has some SSS games in it, also from Karjala cup. Ouellet featured on that game from 7.11.12. Announcing in Russian.

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11-19-2012, 09:20 AM
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Frk 0+1.
Hudon -1
Athanasiou 1+1, +2.
Nedolmel -1
Ouellet with nothing, though they won 5-1
Ned had a fight, did decent against a legit tough guy call it a draw

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/113329

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11-19-2012, 11:23 AM
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Frk 0+1.
Hudon -1
Athanasiou 1+1, +2.
Nedolmel -1
Ouellet with nothing, though they won 5-1
Greece Lightning is back to tearing it up.

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Haha, "Ned"... I like that short name for him. Like Ned Flanders, hehe.

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11-19-2012, 02:25 PM
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Haha, "Ned"... I like that short name for him. Like Ned Flanders, hehe.
or Ned Stark...a little more intimidating than the Ned-o-rino

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or Ned Stark...a little more intimidating than the Ned-o-rino
Nah ned starks not intimidating without a head.

I was thinking something along the lines of nedle dick or nedicare cause he sends guys to the hospital

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11-19-2012, 05:35 PM
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or Ned Stark...a little more intimidating than the Ned-o-rino
Hey... Ned Flanders intimidates people with kindness.

Or you can think about that one episode where he got so sick of being nice that he exploded and lashed out at everybody.

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I was thinking something along the lines of nedle dick...
--Nu-uh, YOUR name is nedle dick.

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11-19-2012, 08:05 PM
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Ned had a fight, did decent against a legit tough guy call it a draw

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/113329
I actually gave the win to Ned.

Good to see that "A" on his chest as well.

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11-20-2012, 09:06 AM
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I actually gave the win to Ned.

Good to see that "A" on his chest as well.
I actually wonder if how the wings brass was telling Ned to stop being an offensive guy and concentrate on his defensive play more, I wonder if they were also telling him, or implied to get back to scrapping more if you wanna make the NHL.

They took him to be a mean ******* and then last year he put up points and barely fought, hes already got the same amount of fights as last year this season. It is a part of his game hes gonna have to develop to make the NHL, but he just needs to be overall mean and not start thinking hes an offensive guy

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11-20-2012, 11:41 AM
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Backman game-leading 24:34 TOI, no points, even rating. Team lost 2-4.
Jarnkrok 1G, 6 shots, 22:09 TOI, +1. Sounds like he was robbed in the overtime, he scored but Lindholm was called for a Homer-esque goalie interference. Missed in the SO. Team lost 1-2 SO.


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11-20-2012, 02:40 PM
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I actually wonder if how the wings brass was telling Ned to stop being an offensive guy and concentrate on his defensive play more, I wonder if they were also telling him, or implied to get back to scrapping more if you wanna make the NHL.
They did, I am sure someone posted it around here somewhere, but he talked about it in the last redwingscentral.com article. I don't know that they care as much about scrapping as they do the strong defensive guy. I think he will do his fair share of fighting anyway, but they just want a physical stay at home guy.

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11-20-2012, 03:29 PM
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Sproul will be back in the Hounds' lineup tomorrow night. So he's about 2 weeks ahead of schedule which is great(if he's 100%...).

http://www.soogreyhounds.com/article...neup-wednesday

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11-20-2012, 03:33 PM
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Nice chat with Ferraro http://mayorsmanor.com/2012/11/nhl-p...andon-ferraro/

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11-20-2012, 03:50 PM
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Sproul will be back in the Hounds' lineup tomorrow night. So he's about 2 weeks ahead of schedule which is great(if he's 100%...).

http://www.soogreyhounds.com/article...neup-wednesday
He does bounce back quickly, I hope from here on out though we don't have to see it as often as we have.

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11-20-2012, 04:12 PM
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I remember last year when Sproul broke his jaw(?) he came back a few weeks early, too. Well at least we know he's a quick healer, now he just needs to stay healthy.
I still find it amazing that he lead the OHL Dmen in goals even after missing time with that broken jaw.

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11-20-2012, 05:11 PM
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I remember last year when Sproul broke his jaw(?) he came back a few weeks early, too. Well at least we know he's a quick healer, now he just needs to stay healthy.
I still find it amazing that he lead the OHL Dmen in goals even after missing time with that broken jaw.
He basically missed a week and change. He still played 61 games. That means he missed seven games total the whole season, not exactly a huge chunk of time.

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11-20-2012, 05:19 PM
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I know Lebda gets made fun of a lot around here. But for a 5'10" guy he is a 195 lbs and pretty solid that way. Also for a undrafted guy to play 400 games in the NHL and have his name on a Stanley Cup is no small accomplishment. Did I always like him? No, but he was who he was and really that was overcoming a lot to get where he was. Not everyone is a stud and I applaud guys like Lebda with the desire and passion he has shown for the game. Some mock him and that is their choice, I wanted a better guy than him some nights but I never thought he wasn't giving it everything he had. I think that should be factored in when we dump on people, did anybody think Lebda mailed it in and didn't give his very best?

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He basically missed a week and change. He still played 61 games. That means he missed seven games total the whole season, not exactly a huge chunk of time.
For an athlete missing a couple months without eating solid foods, it takes a big toll.

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