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11-18-2012, 09:22 PM
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Mark Scheifele is probably the Jets best prospect, but I'll go with Jacob Trouba.

- Ultra-physical D-man with above average size and very good skating ability in all directions

- His ability to play the body is his biggest weapon. He will hurt people in the NHL (not by playing dirty, he's just a freight train), and conjures up images of Scott Stevens.

- Has a heavy shot, and decent offensive skills, though it would probably be wishful thinking to ever envision him on the top-unit powerplay (especially on a team with Enstrom, Byfuglien, Bogosian and Postma already in the fold - the latter two of which are young).

- Heart and soul type who has excelled on big stages - WJHC, NCAA top pairing as a freshman.

- I had some questions as to whether he had the hockey mind and soft skills to be at least developing as well as any reasonable Jet fan could have hoped. I suppose what I mean, is that it does not appear as though he will be a liability offensively, which may or may not have been a concern for some.

PROJECTION:
A minute eating top 4 D-man who is excellent in his own zone with the ability to chip in at least an average amount for an NHL D-man offensively. Though, as mentioned earlier, his biggest asset will be his ability to play the body in a way that very few in the NHL can. He should bring the fear factor to the Winnipeg blue-line.


*fingers crossed*

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11-18-2012, 09:31 PM
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Prospect: Alex Galchenyuk
Realistic potential: #1 Centre
Point production in prime: 70-80 Points
NHL Comparable: Anze Kopitar


Prospect: Nathan Beaulieu
Realistic potential: #4 D-Man
Point production in prime: 45-50 Points
NHL Comparable: Marc-André Bergeron (sorry my fellow habs) but a bit better defensively.


Prospect: Sebastian Collberg
Realistic potential: 2nd Line Winger
Point production in prime: 55-65 Points


Prospect: Jarred Tinordi
Realistic potential: #3-4 D-Man
Point production in prime: 25 Points
NHL Comparable: Chris Pronger Lite


Prospect: Brendan Gallagher
Realistic potential: 2nd Line Winger
Point production in prime: 50-60 Points
NHL Comparable: Brian Gionta


Prospect: Louis Leblanc
Realistic potential: #2 Centre
Point production in prime: 55-65 Points
NHL Comparable: I don't know

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11-19-2012, 12:20 AM
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Prospect: Alex Galchenyuk
Realistic potential: #1 Centre
Point production in prime: 70-80 Points
NHL Comparable: Anze Kopitar


Prospect: Nathan Beaulieu
Realistic potential: #4 D-Man
Point production in prime: 45-50 Points
NHL Comparable: Marc-André Bergeron (sorry my fellow habs) but a bit better defensively.


Prospect: Sebastian Collberg
Realistic potential: 2nd Line Winger
Point production in prime: 55-65 Points


Prospect: Jarred Tinordi
Realistic potential: #3-4 D-Man
Point production in prime: 25 Points
NHL Comparable: Chris Pronger Lite


Prospect: Brendan Gallagher
Realistic potential: 2nd Line Winger
Point production in prime: 50-60 Points
NHL Comparable: Brian Gionta


Prospect: Louis Leblanc
Realistic potential: #2 Centre
Point production in prime: 55-65 Points
NHL Comparable: I don't know
I think Beaulieu becomes better defensively that he slots in as a top 3 defenseman. Other than that, this is pretty much solid, but a bit overhyped.


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11-19-2012, 12:29 AM
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Alex Galchenyuk

Potential: 1st line two-way centre/winger capable of 70-80 points.
Realistic Projection: 2nd line two-way centre/winger capable of 55-60 points.

I'd say Galchenyuk most likely ends up somewhere in between those two. He's got some bad habits like trying to do too much, or being reluctant to shoot when he should. He's not the most explosive player, he's a very fast skater, but it takes him a while to reach his top speed. Very rarely do you get to skate in a straight line, so not very often do you get to him skate at full speed. Taking in to account those two things, I think that he'll take a fairly long time before he becomes a consistent offensive threat. Also his defensive game, while very good, is very inconsistent. At centre this year, it's been good, but this year at the wing, he can go from looking like a shutdown forward to a floater who doesn't care about his own zone.
I think Galchenyuk has a better chance at reaching his potential, he has the tools to reach it and the tool box as well.

The only way I see him on the 2nd line is if the Habs draft Mackinnon or Barkov in this year's draft.

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11-19-2012, 12:51 AM
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LW:

Sven Bartschi
Realistic potential:1st line forward
Point production in prime: PPG or higher

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John Gaudreau
Ceiling potential: Elite forward
Point production in prime: Over PPG)

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Mark Jankowski
Realistic potential: 2nd line centre
Point production in prime: 60-70 points

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Greg Nemisz
Realistic potential: 2nd/3rd line forward
Point production in prime: 40 points

D:
TJ Brodie
Realistic potential: #3 Dman
Point production in prime: 40 points

G:
John Gillies
Realistic potential: 1# Goalie


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11-19-2012, 01:29 AM
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Mark Scheifele is probably the Jets best prospect, but I'll go with Jacob Trouba.

- Ultra-physical D-man with above average size and very good skating ability in all directions

- His ability to play the body is his biggest weapon. He will hurt people in the NHL (not by playing dirty, he's just a freight train), and conjures up images of Scott Stevens.

- Has a heavy shot, and decent offensive skills, though it would probably be wishful thinking to ever envision him on the top-unit powerplay (especially on a team with Enstrom, Byfuglien, Bogosian and Postma already in the fold - the latter two of which are young).

- Heart and soul type who has excelled on big stages - WJHC, NCAA top pairing as a freshman.

- I had some questions as to whether he had the hockey mind and soft skills to be at least developing as well as any reasonable Jet fan could have hoped. I suppose what I mean, is that it does not appear as though he will be a liability offensively, which may or may not have been a concern for some.

PROJECTION:
A minute eating top 4 D-man who is excellent in his own zone with the ability to chip in at least an average amount for an NHL D-man offensively. Though, as mentioned earlier, his biggest asset will be his ability to play the body in a way that very few in the NHL can. He should bring the fear factor to the Winnipeg blue-line.


*fingers crossed*

I think your assessment of where Trouba's game is is spot on. He will be a minute eating defenseman who can move the puck, won't score a lot and will punish opposing forwards physically. Early signs are good for you so far in that he's showing a lot of offensive ability at Michigan.

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11-19-2012, 01:33 AM
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I think Galchenyuk has a better chance at reaching his potential, he has the tools to reach it and the tool box as well.

The only way I see him on the 2nd line is if the Habs draft Mackinnon or Barkov in this year's draft.
70 points is an extremely high level to attain at the NHL level, however if any player that's being discussed in this thread can do it, Galchenyuk is one of them.

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11-19-2012, 01:43 AM
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Tyler Biggs

next Callahan/Brown
Tyler Biggs is the Leaf's best prospect?

That's quite ambitious.

He will have a major leap to match either Callahan or Brown, both of whom are very different players style wise. Biggs hasn't demonstrated the skill that screams perennial 50 point player in the NHL. He's a decent skater but he hasn't shown a real high end ability like Callahan. He's not an elite defensive forward at his level. He has a good shot, and he's bigger and meaner than both of those guys, so I think he'll play. The question is, is he a 3rd line meatgrinder who throws in a few points now and again. Or can he up his defensive IQ, his skating ability and his possession ability to reach the heights of the players described above. I'd be pleased and surprised if he does.

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11-19-2012, 01:47 AM
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For the Ducks it's probably Kyle Palmieri or Hamphus Lindholm.

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11-19-2012, 01:50 AM
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Kreider:

Upside Tony Amonte.
Upside is a perennial 70 point guy? That's fantastic upside and a real tough level to reach for all but a handful of elite players. Kreider has the speed, the physical stature (bigger than Amonte, faster too) to succeed regardless of anything. The real question is does he has the creativity and IQ to put himself in position to utilize those skills to the ultimate level. To be a 70 point guy every year for 7-8 years, you can't have any pieces missing, you have to be the best of the best in the league. Kreider has the baseline physical skills to be a player, probably put up some decent point totals now and again. Seventy points regularly is elite. That means he's putting up more points than a guy like Rick Nash or Jeff Carter.

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Realistically I see Chris Kreider as a 30/30/60 guy who will give you 200-225 hits and passable defense.

I think he could spike into 70 here and there but I don't see him doing it regularly, and they will surely be matched by dips down near 50.

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11-19-2012, 02:16 AM
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70 points is an extremely high level to attain at the NHL level, however if any player that's being discussed in this thread can do it, Galchenyuk is one of them.
Exactly. I get that 70-80 points is difficult to achieve, let alone maintain, but Gally has the talent and determination to be able to do it, which is a combination for success (most likely). This is the main reason that Timmins and Bergervin picked him in June.

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11-19-2012, 01:51 PM
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12-17 RT @seamus_otoole: @coreypronman where do you see Lehner ranking out of the top 30 goalies when he's in his prime?

lol strong homer.
I don't agree with RKL about Lehner being (realistically) an elite #1. I think his top potential is certainly an elite #1, but it's no where near a given. However, trying to argue against that opinion with word from Corey Pronman? No. I've seen enough lists from Corey Pronman that I can't help but wonder why his word is even close to being relevant.

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40-50 point 2nd line center/wing that plays a very good two-way game and gets time on the PK.

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LW:
Teemu Hartikainen
Realistic potential: Top six power forward
Point production in prime: 50+ points

HM to Daniil Zharkov
Realistic potential: 2nd-3rd line goal-scorer
Point production in prime: 40+ points


C:
Tyler Pitlick
Realistic potential: 3rd line physical centre
Point production in prime: 30-40 points

HM to Anton Lander
Realistic potential: 4th line centre
Point production in prime: 30 points


RW:
Nail Yakupov
Realistic potential: 1st line sniper
Point production in prime: 95 points

HM to Tobias Rieder
Realistic potential: 2nd-3rd line two-way winger
Point production in prime: 60-70 points


D:
Justin Schultz
Realistic potential: Top pairing offensive D-man
Point production in prime: 60 points

HM to Oscar Klefbom
Realistic potential: #2-3 shutdown D-man
Point production in prime: 30 points


G:
Tyler Bunz
Realistic potential: #1 Goalie

HM to Olivier Roy
Realistic potential: Backup Goalie


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Flames: Sven Baertschi. Outcome: #2 dman, PP QB
Bartschi is a Franchise D-man at worst!

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