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11-19-2012, 01:58 PM
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Peter Regin

What happened to this guy? He was looking like real solid player and he was arguably the best player for the Sens in the playoffs versus the Pens back in '10

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11-19-2012, 02:03 PM
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Shoulder injuries have cut his past two seasons very short.

He should still factor into the Sens top 9 when he's healthy and was resigned this summer to a 1 year contract.

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Shoulder injuries have cut his past two seasons very short.

He should still factor into the Sens top 9 when he's healthy and was resigned this summer to a 1 year contract.
Thanks, I figured it was an injury. What specific type of injuries did he suffer; some shoulder injuries can be chronic. bI know you said he should still be a factor but in the eyes of Sens management does he still have a future in Ottawa?

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11-19-2012, 02:28 PM
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Henrik Zetterberg one-for-one might do it.

Or a 7th rounder(which very well might end up being the next Zetterberg)

Whichever you'd prefer, I suppose.


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Although in all seriousness, I'd suppose it would take a top-4 defenseman, with Cowen injured and Gonchar likely on his way out, that's the biggest area of need for Ottawa right now.

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As a Canucks fan I would have some interest.

A fellow Dane centering a 3rd line of Hansen and (possibly) Jensen down the road.
The all Dane line.

But maybe Regin + conditional 3rd (games played) for either Raymond/Ballard?

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11-19-2012, 03:00 PM
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I'm sure his value is way too low considering his past injury history, making it pointless for the Senators to trade him.

He has the ability to be a top 3rd liner and a good top 6 fill in, he just needs to stay healthy.

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11-19-2012, 03:03 PM
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I'd trade him for Ballard, would add a 4th but not a 3rd. No interest in trading him for Raymond.

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Ballard truly is an awful defenseman. No freakin way. He has negative value.


Regin is an elite 3rd liner who obviously doesn't hold that kind of value. He aint going anywhere

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I'm sure his value is way too low considering his past injury history, making it pointless for the Senators to trade him.

He has the ability to be a top 3rd liner and a good top 6 fill in, he just needs to stay healthy.
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11-19-2012, 03:26 PM
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I'd trade him for Ballard, would add a 4th but not a 3rd. No interest in trading him for Raymond.
Disconsidering contracts I think that would be a fair deal that helps both teams. If the new CBA allows us to pay part of Ballards salary it would make it a lot more appealing for Ottawa, though. I don't suppose there are any contracts you'd want to dump to offset it?

Might be too crazy, but how about Ballard + Raymond for Regin + Gonchar?

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Disconsidering contracts I think that would be a fair deal that helps both teams. If the new CBA allows us to pay part of Ballards salary it would make it a lot more appealing for Ottawa, though. I don't suppose there are any contracts you'd want to dump to offset it?

Might be too crazy, but how about Ballard + Raymond for Regin + Gonchar?
Regin > Raymond and Gonchar > Ballard.

Plus the Sens take on more money.

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Regin > Raymond and Gonchar > Ballard.

Plus the Sens take on more money.

I mean

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6.3 mil vs 6.475 mil. Let's call it a wash.

And what makes you think Regin is better than Raymond? Not to mention Gonchar is almost a decade older than Ballard.

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As a Canucks fan I would have some interest.

A fellow Dane centering a 3rd line of Hansen and (possibly) Jensen down the road.
The all Dane line.

But maybe Regin + conditional 3rd (games played) for either Raymond/Ballard?
Sorry, but I'm one Sens fan who has no interest in either Raymond or Ballard. Ballard is overpaid, and Raymond is nothing special and would take away a forward spot from one of our many up and coming offensive prospects.

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Ballard truly is an awful defenseman. No freakin way. He has negative value.


Regin is an elite 3rd liner who obviously doesn't hold that kind of value. He aint going anywhere



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Disconsidering contracts I think that would be a fair deal that helps both teams. If the new CBA allows us to pay part of Ballards salary it would make it a lot more appealing for Ottawa, though. I don't suppose there are any contracts you'd want to dump to offset it?

Might be too crazy, but how about Ballard + Raymond for Regin + Gonchar?
We don't really have any bad contracts. We don't have any Horcoffs, Komisareks, or Leinos. Closest to it probably is Gonchar, but he hasn't been that bad. Not 5 mill per year good, but not terrible, and he's off the books after this (non-) season.

Thanks for your proposal, but I politely decline. No point in trading Regin at his lowest value. And even if you equate Regin and Raymond, I don't want to trade Gonchar, who is UFA after this year, for years of an overpaid Ballard.

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11-19-2012, 03:35 PM
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6.3 mil vs 6.475 mil. Let's call it a wash.

And what makes you think Regin is better than Raymond?
The fact that you want to trade Raymond for Regin, and you grossly underestimate Regin in the first place.


They're close, but I'd still take Regin. Gonchar >> Ballard though

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The fact that you want to trade Raymond for Regin, and you grossly underestimate Regin in the first place.


They're close, but I'd still take Regin. Gonchar >> Ballard though
Our problem is we have too many LWs(and LDs) and need a 3C. Regin would make a good option as our 3C, and there's no real room for Raymond on our roster. Not to mention Raymond's career high is about 25 points higher.

Gonchar and Ballard are hard to equate, though, I was simply trying to make it fit salary wise. Ballard has a much better chance of rebounding in a new environ ment, while Gonchar likely only has another 1-3 years of hockey left in him.

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I would rather not have Ballard then take the chance that he returns to form. He was never that good to begin with either. Barely a top 4 at his best.

I would have interest in Raymond though, but not at the expense of Regin.

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oilers offer hemsky? overload on rw trade for a c i guess

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As a Canucks fan I would have some interest.

A fellow Dane centering a 3rd line of Hansen and (possibly) Jensen down the road.
The all Dane line.

But maybe Regin + conditional 3rd (games played) for either Raymond/Ballard?
He can be a throw-in when we deal for Edler.

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I would rather not have Ballard then take the chance that he returns to form. He was never that good to begin with either. Barely a top 4 at his best.

I would have interest in Raymond though, but not at the expense of Regin.
Interesting, because another Sens fan above said the exact opposite. Did you watch much of Ballard this past season? Because he was playing quite well in the role he was given.

Out of curiousity, who does Ottawa value more, Smith or Regin? I wouldn't mind seeing either as our 3C.

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Interesting, because another Sens fan above said the exact opposite. Did you watch much of Ballard this past season? Because he was playing quite well in the role he was given.

Out of curiousity, who does Ottawa value more, Smith or Regin? I wouldn't mind seeing either as our 3C.
Ballard was sheltered and faced the easiest matchups... and despite that didn't even perform well. He was awful.

Smith is more valued, but the doesn't mean he's better than Regin

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oilers offer hemsky? overload on rw trade for a c i guess
Regin for Hemsky? Deal.

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I'd like to see him get an opportunity on the wing in Ottawa before the Sens give up on him.

If there is a season then there is an obvious need for a defenceman with Cowen hurt.

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Regin has more value with the Sens than he would in a trade. I can't see his trade value reflects his NHL skill level

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Where does he fit in on the Sens though? Spezza-Turris-Smith is a solid top 3 center combo, do you play him on the 4th or out of position?

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Regin has more value with the Sens than he would in a trade. I can't see his trade value reflects his NHL skill level
This exactly. He's been "out-of-sight, out-of-mind" to so many people because of his injuries over the past few years, his true value is skewed because of it, IMO.

To touch on what a few people have discussed:
- I approve the Regin-for-Hemsky proposal, and give the team my blessings to move forward on completing that deal, which clearly was the final stumbling block we needed to clear in order to make it official . Get it done.

- I'll take Gonchar over Ballard because, while long-term I want NEITHER on my team due to their bad contracts, Gonchar's contract is up first, and therefore is the more desirable player. In a vacuum, I'd take Regin over either of them, but mostly because I don't really want either of them long-term.

- I'll take Regin over Raymond because, while the value is not ridiculously off, Regin is the better player when healthy, IMO. I'd rather take a chance that Regin fully returns to form. Regin's ceiling is higher, Raymond is slightly safer: I'm just gambling on the higher upside here. Also: Regin can play all 3 forward positions, and I like that kind of versatility on our team at the moment.

- Nobody, for the love of god, bring up Henrik Zetterberg in this thread please. Vankiller, I'm talking to you . No need to rehash old, fairly ridiculous, arguments. Peter Regin is Peter Regin, and nobody else.

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Sens need NHL forwards with skill. I guess in wonderland, all of those great prospects make immediate impacts, but for now, Regin has proven more and has a good chance of making the roster as a top nine roster player provided he stays healthy.

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