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11-15-2012, 10:25 PM
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Rattie with a Perron/Stewart hybrid highlight reel goal!

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11-15-2012, 10:34 PM
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Rattie has looked quite good tonight against high calibre players.

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11-15-2012, 11:04 PM
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Rattie has looked quite good tonight against high calibre players.
Agreed, beautiful backhander. I also like what we've seen from him defensively. His speed coming out of the neutral zone has been pretty impressive as well.

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11-15-2012, 11:14 PM
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And Rattie gets an assist on Team WHL's second goal.

Edit: With 2 points also named Team WHL's player of the game.


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11-15-2012, 11:51 PM
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Rattie also had a nice drive on net late in the game that resulted in a waived off goal when the net was knocked off the pegs just before the puck crossed the line. He was named WHL Player of the Game.

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11-16-2012, 07:59 AM
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With Veilleux having a 5 point night what is the latest report on him. NHL body but not good enough skater? Don't see many players have a 5 point night but are a -1.

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11-16-2012, 08:59 AM
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With Veilleux having a 5 point night what is the latest report on him. NHL body but not good enough skater? Don't see many players have a 5 point night but are a -1.
4 out of 5 of those points came on the PP and therefor didn't count towards his +/- Now it's showing an even +/- for both him and Jaskin. I really wonder who keeps track of these stats because it seems like every week when I go back and check overall stats at least one player doesn't add up.

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11-16-2012, 11:24 AM
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Dave Eminian says that Ian Cole has been one of Peoria's best players so far: http://www.pjstar.com/rivermen/x1978...familiar-guest

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Dave Eminian says that Ian Cole has been one of Peoria's best players so far: http://www.pjstar.com/rivermen/x1978...familiar-guest
Good to hear, especially considering that he is playing against more NHL quality opponents on any given night than in most AHL seasons. This team looks so much better if he can play competently alongside Petro.

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11-16-2012, 06:57 PM
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The Blues prospect pool looks pretty damn strong. We've had some nice picks in the last couple years. Guys like Rattie, Jaskin, Edmundson, Binnington are looking like they could potentially be steals although it obviously is early. Then that's not even mentioning the 1st round guys like Tarasenko and Schwartz who are expected to make big impacts.

I am excited.


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11-16-2012, 07:58 PM
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I love prospect comparisons for Blues players. Somebody want to give me a Rattie comparison? TIA

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11-16-2012, 08:54 PM
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I love prospect comparisons for Blues players. Somebody want to give me a Rattie comparison? TIA
Eberle is the most common comparison I have seen, and I can see that.

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11-16-2012, 08:55 PM
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I love prospect comparisons for Blues players. Somebody want to give me a Rattie comparison? TIA
Vrbata without as much speed, maybe.

Perron is an okay comparison. A bit more north-south than DP, but he likes to pull up high in the offensive zone on the rush and look for options and let the play develop, a la Elias or Demitra. Good on the rush and at protecting the puck on the boards and getting separation due to his hands and IQ. Despite not being a blazing skater, he can make quick moves in a small space. Reads the play well so he's good at jumping on loose pucks - a definite opportunist. But even though all of Elias, Vrbata, and Perron have damn good shots, Rattie's release is truly wicked, which could make up for his not being as big or fast as those guys.

Eberle is an okay comparison, too. Rattie's a bit more of a shooter and will probably not be as elusive as Eberle at the NHL level.

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11-17-2012, 12:36 AM
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Vrbata without as much speed, maybe.

Perron is an okay comparison. A bit more north-south than DP, but he likes to pull up high in the offensive zone on the rush and look for options and let the play develop, a la Elias or Demitra. Good on the rush and at protecting the puck on the boards and getting separation due to his hands and IQ. Despite not being a blazing skater, he can make quick moves in a small space. Reads the play well so he's good at jumping on loose pucks - a definite opportunist. But even though all of Elias, Vrbata, and Perron have damn good shots, Rattie's release is truly wicked, which could make up for his not being as big or fast as those guys.

Eberle is an okay comparison, too. Rattie's a bit more of a shooter and will probably not be as elusive as Eberle at the NHL level.
Rattie seems to have that sense for knowing what spot to be in to be able to pop the puck in the net (as Brett Hull had), and, combined with his quick release and sure shot, he has been a competent goal scorer at all levels. I think those skills will continue to be effective for him on The NHL level. For those reasons, I think he'll be a better goal scorer than Vrbata and Perron, but probably get less assists than they do, on The NHL level.

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11-17-2012, 02:49 AM
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Rattie seems to have that sense for knowing what spot to be in to be able to pop the puck in the net (as Brett Hull had), and, combined with his quick release and sure shot, he has been a competent goal scorer at all levels. I think those skills will continue to be effective for him on The NHL level. For those reasons, I think he'll be a better goal scorer than Vrbata and Perron, but probably get less assists than they do, on The NHL level.
Rattie's sense of where to be, especially on broken plays, is very good; and, moreover, his great shot really does separate him from most players. But Perron's goal scoring rate has increased and it wouldn't surprise me to see that rate stick, meaning that he could easily hit 30 in a full season. And Vrbata has really settled in with Phoenix - 35 goals last year and has averaged 26 a year for a few seasons.

Hell, to this date, Perron's career rate has him at 20 goals per 82 games and Vrbata at 22 per 82. If Rattie is a better goal scorer than that, especially by the time he's Perron's age (24), I'll be thrilled. Only 73 wingers in the league hit 20 goals last year, and 17 were 24 or younger. That's a #3 goal scoring winger on ten of sixteen playoff teams.

That's a bit beside the point, as I was just comparing/mixing general styles, not production. But as long as we're discussing production, a better goalscorer than Vrbata or Perron is a very good player and I'm not prepared to put my expectations there for Rattie - yet.


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11-18-2012, 05:38 PM
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To me, Rattie is a smaller verison of Simon Gagne. A speedy, crafty, and most importantly goal oriented.

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11-19-2012, 02:04 PM
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Prospects Current Stats/Weekly Progress Report

QMJHL

D. Jaškin - 23GP 18+18 36PT +3 28PIM (2gp 1+4 5PT -1)
R. Tesink - 21GP 14+11 25PT +5 42PIM (2gp 3+0 3PT -2)
Y. Veilleux - 22GP 9+13 22PT +6 25PIM (2gp 2+3 5PT -1)
F. Tremblay - 17GP 8-7-0-2 .898 sv% 3.18GAA (3gp .922%/3GA)

WHL
T. Rattie - 21GP 14+17 31PT +15 15PIM (2gp 2+2 4PT -2)
T. Seaman - 24GP 3+5 8PT +3 17PIM (3gp 0+1 1PT -2)
J. Edmundson - 21GP 2+5 7PT -7 46PIM (1gp 0+0 0PT EV)
N. Walters - 22GP 1+6 7PT -12 41PIM (3gp 1+1 2pt -2)

OHL
J. Binnington - 19GP 13-3-1-2 .932 sv% 2.18GAA (3gp .955%/1.33GA)

NCAA
M. Gardiner - 9GP 2+6 8PT +5 2PIM (0gp-none scheduled)
C. Parayko - 12GP 3+2 5PT -3 4PIM (2gp 0+0 0PT +4)
J. Schmaltz - 10GP 1+1 2PT +3 15PIM (2gp 0+0 0PT -1)
S. Kurker - 6GP 0+0 0PT -2 2PIM (2gp 0+0 0PT -1)
M. Tardy - 4GP 0+0 0PT +1 4PIM (2gp 0+0 0PT +1)

USHL
M. MacEachern - 9GP 3+6 9PT +3 6PIM (0GP-injured-concussion)

Last Weeks 3 Stars- Binnington, Veilleux, Rattie HM: Tesink, Jaskin, Walters

Euro Prospect Stats


KHL
V. Tarasenko - 16GP 10+11 21PT +10 4PIM (2gp 0+2 2PT +2)
J. Lehterä - 26GP 6+17 23PT +10 23PIM (2gp 2+3 5PT EV)

FEL
T. Eronen - 22GP 3+6 8PT +6 10PIM (3gp 0+1 1PT -2)
J. Hakanpää - 24GP 2+2 4PT -1 24PIM (3gp 0+0 0PT +2)
P. Lindbohm - 16GP 0+2 2PT 0 24PIM (2gp 0+0 0PT EV)

SEL
N. Lundström - 7GP 3.44GAA .892sv%(SEL) - 3GP 2.27GAA .905sv%(SuperElit)

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11-19-2012, 03:01 PM
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This Weeks Junior/College Schedule

Nov.21
QMJHL- Moncton 5:00CT
WHL- MooseJaw 7:00CT, Portland 9:00CT, Everett 9:05CT
OHL- OwenSound 6:00CT

Nov. 22
None

Nov. 23
QMJHL- Val-d'Or 6:30CT
WHL- Portland 5:00CT, Brandon 7:30CT, MooseJaw 8:00CT
NCAA- UND 6:35CT, UAF 6:35CT, UMD 7:37CT

Nov. 24
QMJHL- Moncton 1:00CT, Saint John 5:00CT, Val-d'Or 6:00CT
WHL- Brandon 7:00CT, MooseJaw 8:30CT, Everett 9:05CT, Portland 9:05CT
NCAA- UND 4:05CT, PSU 6:00CT, BU 6:00CT, UAF 6:35CT, UMD 7:07CT
OHL- OwenSound 6:30CT

Nov. 25

QMJHL- Moncton 12:00CT, Saint John 1:00CT
WHL- Everett 7:05CT
NCAA- PSU 3:00CT
OHL- OwenSound 1:00CT

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11-19-2012, 03:31 PM
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Looks like all of our Q prospects had a great week, even Tremblay. And Binnington, damn, his stats look unreal.

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11-19-2012, 08:58 PM
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Looks like all of our Q prospects had a great week, even Tremblay. And Binnington, damn, his stats look unreal.
Being a goalie in major-juniors is pretty ruff on their stats considering how much the scoring is, so to see goalie stats like that stuns me, I think this fan site should pay a little more attention to Binnington from now on

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11-20-2012, 12:53 AM
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Being a goalie in major-juniors is pretty ruff on their stats considering how much the scoring is, so to see goalie stats like that stuns me, I think this fan site should pay a little more attention to Binnington from now on
Absolutely. Also, let's not forget that this kid didn't come out of nowhere. He was ranked 3rd out of all North American goalies by Central Scouting in 2011 and was the 6th goalie selected in that draft. Why everybody has glossed over this kid until now is beyond me. I guess it's just hard for some people to get excited about a prospect that likely needs to develop for the better part of a decade before he could hope to make it to the NHL.

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11-20-2012, 01:11 AM
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Absolutely. Also, let's not forget that this kid didn't come out of nowhere. He was ranked 3rd out of all North American goalies by Central Scouting in 2011 and was the 6th goalie selected in that draft. Why everybody has glossed over this kid until now is beyond me. I guess it's just hard for some people to get excited about a prospect that likely needs to develop for the better part of a decade before he could hope to make it to the NHL.
Exactly this.

There is a lot of hockey left this season, and a few more seasons to go after this one before he is ready to challenge for an NHL roster spot.

Not trying to dismiss what he is doing, but with goaltenders seeming to be such a crap shoot, and only ~60 positions available in the league, I'm not ready to fully hitch my wagon to the Binnington bandwagon.

Certainly someone to keep an eye on going forward however.

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Tesink is putting together a nice season as well. On pace to score 40+-.

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11-20-2012, 08:38 AM
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Veilleux has really impressed me. Yea he hasn't scored much and was a late pick in the draft, but I got to watch a bit of his game this year, and he's developing into a solid defensive minded forward. This may not mean anything, but he's looked solid on the forecheck and was helpful on the PK.

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11-22-2012, 02:43 AM
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Rattie with a goal and an assist in a 3-0 Winterhawks win. Jaškin with an assist and Veilleux with a goal and assist in a 4-2 Wildcats win.

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Veilleux has really impressed me. Yea he hasn't scored much and was a late pick in the draft, but I got to watch a bit of his game this year, and he's developing into a solid defensive minded forward. This may not mean anything, but he's looked solid on the forecheck and was helpful on the PK.
A player I'd like to have seen more of. A few posters have been talking about him being impressive since last season, and it's good to see him continuing that development into this season. Annoying for me that we have him and Jaškin on the same team and I can't see any of the games!

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