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10-15-2012, 11:23 PM
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Ironically, your statement is the one that's ridiculous.

Zetterberg is 32 and Datsyuk is 34. Yakupov is 18 and has elite potential. There's no reason why the Oilers should do it. Maybe 3 good years of Datsyuk vs. a decade of Yakupov scoring 30+ goals.

Tough choice.
Agreed. If we were a team contending for a cup it might make sense. But we're not, and I doubt that when we're ready to compete for a cup in a couple years that a 37 year old Datsyuk will be better than a 21 year old Yakupov

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11-20-2012, 10:29 AM
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Yakupov for Franzen

As a Red Wings fan, giving up Franzen for Yakupov would be a dream come true. An aging, streaky goal scorer for a young talent filled Russian to play with Datsyuk... If only you were the GM of the Oilers and this was true

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11-20-2012, 11:09 AM
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Is this peddle Yakupov day???

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11-20-2012, 11:28 AM
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Y'know, there's probably no one here who dislikes the Red Wings more than me... and even I think this statement is utterly ridiculous.

Needless to say, I'd be willing to bet that most if not all 30 NHL general managers would disagree with you. If Datsyuk or Zetterberg was offered to the Oilers straight up for Yakupov, and the Oilers' GM didn't take them...

Proven world-class skill and experience > potential.
You'd have to be a very short sighted GM to trade Yakupov for Datsyuk.,

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11-20-2012, 11:31 AM
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Getting rid of Franzen for Yakupov would be hilarious. I would trade Franzen for the last pick in the draft and call that a success for the Wings.

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11-20-2012, 12:02 PM
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Oilers need size to compliment their skill. Here are 2 trades that I think could benefit all parties...


A foundation of
gets Johan Franzen + ?
gets Nail Yakupov

Edmonton gives up elite skill to gain size and experience. Detroit gives up size for much needed youth that still provides a gritty style of play, and should mesh well with Datsyuk.



gets Patrik Berglund
get Sam Gagner

Lateral move perhaps, but I personally feel gagner is slightly more skilled and has a higher ceiling...but of course Berglund is the bigger body that might require compensation.



Franzen - Nuge - Eberle
Hall - Berglund - Hemsky


McDonald - Backes - Oshie
Steen - Gagner - Tarasenko/D'Agostini


Bertuzzi - Datsyuk - Yakupov
Fillpula - Zetterberg - Nyquist?
Props for trying to be creative, but I don't think either of these happen.

I'm not a fan of either team, I'm just spit ballin' off your idea and a few other posts in here so don't take offense to this proposal.

St. Louis - Yakupov Gagner and Smid

Edmonton - Berglund, Stewart,Rattie and Cole

Is getting Yakupov enough to down grade from Berglund to Gagner(size/team fit) for the Blues who also get Smid to play with Pietrangelo

Oilers get the size you wanted in Berglund, replace Smid with Cole, a younger yet still decent defenseman with top 4 potential and add some size in Stwewart for the 3rd line and a nice prospect in Rattie.

Far fetched, outrageous even, but like I said, just twisted around the OP's original proposal by leaving the Red Wings out. What would need to be added and by whom?

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11-20-2012, 12:39 PM
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We are stacked on wing so it would have to be hall or rnh, preferably RNH as the position getting upgraded. Edmonton doesn't do it. If bergy puts up 60 points playing like we know he can and Stewart shows it was a one season slump and puts up a 30/30 then i think those 2 for rnh would be close but i don't think the blues do it.

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11-20-2012, 12:41 PM
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Props for trying to be creative, but I don't think either of these happen.

I'm not a fan of either team, I'm just spit ballin' off your idea and a few other posts in here so don't take offense to this proposal.

St. Louis - Yakupov Gagner and Smid

Edmonton - Berglund, Stewart,Rattie and Cole

Is getting Yakupov enough to down grade from Berglund to Gagner(size/team fit) for the Blues who also get Smid to play with Pietrangelo

Oilers get the size you wanted in Berglund, replace Smid with Cole, a younger yet still decent defenseman with top 4 potential and add some size in Stwewart for the 3rd line and a nice prospect in Rattie.

Far fetched, outrageous even, but like I said, just twisted around the OP's original proposal by leaving the Red Wings out. What would need to be added and by whom?
As a Blues fan that can be a bit of a homer the majority of times, I admit I like this deal. It would hurt to get rid of Berglund a lot, but to get another potential star player and a Dman to pair with Pie, it sure does help.

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11-20-2012, 12:43 PM
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The undervaluing of Yakupov on this board is hilarious. He's a first overall pick with solid credentials. Think Patrick Kane value. Could be worth more or could be worth less.

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11-20-2012, 01:09 PM
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I thought I made it clear that we need to get bigger. There is also a + next to Franzen.
Everytime the Oilers trade for height and weight they get burned.

I just don't think you sacrifice talent for size

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11-20-2012, 06:53 PM
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Stewart + Cole for Yukapov

Edmonton gets a big, tough scoring winger and a high end D prospect who is strong and plays physical.

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11-20-2012, 07:23 PM
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Stewart + Cole for Yukapov

Edmonton gets a big, tough scoring winger and a high end D prospect who is strong and plays physical.
That's awful, just awful. Stewart is Penner v2.0 and Cole is just okay.

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11-20-2012, 07:26 PM
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I doubt there is plus that Oiler management will want. Op should maybe change name to Redwing country. If the Oilers where looking to trade latest 1st overall there's much better deal to be made.

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11-20-2012, 07:32 PM
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+ who? Mrazek? Jurco? pulkkinen? jarnkrok? Tatar? 1st round draft pick? Smith? eriksson? I don't understand.
DONE. Put it in writing.

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11-20-2012, 07:36 PM
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That's awful, just awful. Stewart is Penner v2.0 and Cole is just okay.

We don't know that yet. He's a very promising prospect. At worst, he's Barrett Jackman.

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11-20-2012, 07:46 PM
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Props for trying to be creative, but I don't think either of these happen.

I'm not a fan of either team, I'm just spit ballin' off your idea and a few other posts in here so don't take offense to this proposal.

St. Louis - Yakupov Gagner and Smid

Edmonton - Berglund, Stewart,Rattie and Cole

Is getting Yakupov enough to down grade from Berglund to Gagner(size/team fit) for the Blues who also get Smid to play with Pietrangelo

Oilers get the size you wanted in Berglund, replace Smid with Cole, a younger yet still decent defenseman with top 4 potential and add some size in Stwewart for the 3rd line and a nice prospect in Rattie.

Far fetched, outrageous even, but like I said, just twisted around the OP's original proposal by leaving the Red Wings out. What would need to be added and by whom?
So the Blues would roll:

Perron/Backes/Yakupov
Steen/McDonald/Tarasenko
Sobotka/Gagner/Oshie
D'Agostini/Nichol/Langenbrunner
Reaves, Porter

Smid/Pietrangelo
Jackman/Shattenkirk
Russell/Polak
Wyowitka

Halak
Elliott

What would the Oilers look like after the trade?

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11-20-2012, 07:49 PM
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So the Blues would roll:

Perron/Backes/Yakupov
Steen/McDonald/Tarasenko
Sobotka/Gagner/Oshie
D'Agostini/Nichol/Langenbrunner
Reaves, Porter

Smid/Pietrangelo
Jackman/Shattenkirk
Russell/Polak
Wyowitka

Halak
Elliott

What would the Oilers look like after the trade?
No, no. Detroit already has Yakupov, but we'll give him to you for Pietrangelo.

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11-20-2012, 07:54 PM
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So the Blues would roll:

Perron/Backes/Yakupov
Steen/McDonald/Tarasenko
Sobotka/Gagner/Oshie
D'Agostini/Nichol/Langenbrunner
Reaves, Porter

Smid/Pietrangelo
Jackman/Shattenkirk
Russell/Polak
Wyowitka

Halak
Elliott

What would the Oilers look like after the trade?
The same as before. We don't touch that trade

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What would the Oilers look like after the trade?
Worse.

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