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11-21-2012, 04:17 PM
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Too late!
Too late for what? Stopping the settling process?

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11-21-2012, 04:19 PM
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Too late for what? Stopping the settling process?
Yes...& way too late to undo it, likely impossible.

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11-21-2012, 04:23 PM
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Yes...& way too late to undo it, likely impossible.
I am not talking about "undoing it".

Let's just STOP IT. It's ongoing at the moment. More Palestinians are being kicked out of their houses to accommodate more jew zealots.

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11-21-2012, 04:27 PM
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Yes...& way too late to undo it, likely impossible.
The great irony is that it is Israel who has made the "two-state" solution untenable. You're not moving 500,000 colonists without tremendous conflict and loss of life.

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11-21-2012, 04:37 PM
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The great irony is that it is Israel who has made the "two-state" solution untenable. You're not moving 500,000 colonists without tremendous conflict and loss of life.
No irony at all, it was deliberate. This is the goal of Zionism...Gen 15.18, Theodor Herzl, Rabbi Fischmann.

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11-21-2012, 05:00 PM
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No irony at all, it was deliberate. This is the goal of Zionism...Gen 15.18, Theodor Herzl, Rabbi Fischmann.
Yawn...

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11-21-2012, 05:14 PM
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I assume you mean you have a solution outside the two state, one state solutions that are now clearly impossible since illegally colonising the West Bank has guaranteed that??

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11-21-2012, 05:16 PM
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The great irony is that it is Israel who has made the "two-state" solution untenable. You're not moving 500,000 colonists without tremendous conflict and loss of life.
Invasion

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11-21-2012, 05:20 PM
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oh wow, I thought the cease fire would last maybe about 3 days, looks like it only lasted an hour


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11-21-2012, 05:31 PM
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that translates to:

Lets cut off Israel and leave Israel alone

Hopefully by allowing the Muslims to do whatever they want to the Israelis, that will mean peace for us
It's sad. Groups like Al-Qaeda have a LONG list and Israel is just one number on that long list.

Lets say Israel is gone tomorrow or even handed over to Al-Qaeda and other terrorists groups -> they'd still plot ways to commit mass-murder of Westerners, and they'd continue killing Muslims.

Personally, I don't think kowtowing to the interests of Islamic extremists is a good idea but if slip wants to offer his butthole to them, he can be my guest. I won't be offering mine.

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11-21-2012, 05:32 PM
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I assume you mean you have a solution outside the two state, one state solutions that are now clearly impossible since illegally colonising the West Bank has guaranteed that??
What is yours?

An addendum: I find it laughable you associate his view with all of those in the Israeli government. Kind of like the people that are vehemently against Hamas that most of your ilk deride as not being privy to their suffering. Face it both sides are in the wrong, but all the Sabre rattling and refusal to take into account both sides will make no solution possible.

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What is yours?

An addendum: I find it laughable you associate his view with all of those in the Israeli government. Kind of like the people that are vehemently against Hamas that most of your ilk deride as not being privy to their suffering. Face it both sides are in the wrong, but all the Sabre rattling and refusal to take into account both sides will make no solution possible.
There will be no solution, just low level warfare with all its horrors for the foreseeable future...this is as good as it gets, attack, respond & if it gets too hot, a bit of international hand wringing...rinse, wash, repeat. Don't bleat about supporting Hamas, Hezbollah or whoever, that's your fantasy.

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There will be no solution, just low level warfare with all its horrors for the foreseeable future...this is as good as it gets, attack, respond & if it gets too hot, a bit of international hand wringing...rinse, wash, repeat. Don't bleat about supporting Hamas, Hezbollah or whoever, that's your fantasy.
Not bleating about anything, in fact I share your same bleak outlook because I stopped putting faith in the human race a long time ago.

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11-21-2012, 05:56 PM
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oh wow, I thought the cease fire would last maybe about 3 days, looks like it only lasted an hour


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...310174,00.html
To expect all factions in Gaza/All rocket positions to get information within first few hours IMO given the attacks on infrastructure of Hamas/Gov IMO would be foolish

If Israel goes on offensive over this then they didn't really intend for CF

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11-21-2012, 08:31 PM
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Now I am just confused...

Degenerate is a word, so the reference doesn't really apply...
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Degenerate is a word.

It is an insult, it means an immoral or corrupt person.

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There will be no solution, just low level warfare with all its horrors for the foreseeable future...this is as good as it gets, attack, respond & if it gets too hot, a bit of international hand wringing...rinse, wash, repeat. Don't bleat about supporting Hamas, Hezbollah or whoever, that's your fantasy.
Works for me. Israel keeps the advantage and more Jews return to Judea and Samaria. The Arabs have shown they are not interested in peace, why negotiate when you have the upper hand?

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Works for me. Israel keeps the advantage and more Jews return to Judea and Samaria. The Arabs have shown they are not interested in peace, why negotiate when you have the upper hand?
Good, I'm actually waiting for the people of the native Karuk Indian Tribe to come and kick you out of Irvine, it's their territory, once they get some international weapons support from a superpower like China it will be sooooooooo sweet to see them kick you and your family out on to the streets at gunpoint. And, if you and your fellow Irvinians try to fight back, let's hope they bomb the **** out of you with many civilian, women, and children casualties. Sounds fair to me.

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11-21-2012, 10:34 PM
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Works for me. Israel keeps the advantage and more Jews return to Judea and Samaria. The Arabs have shown they are not interested in peace, why negotiate when you have the upper hand?
Sygmunt Bauman, the Jewish sociologist and one of the greatest philosophers of our time, castigated Israel harshly this week, saying it did not want peace and was afraid of it.

Bauman said Israel was "taking advantage of the Holocaust to legitimize unconscionable acts," and compared the separation fence to the walls surrounding the Warsaw Ghetto, in which hundreds of thousands of Jews perished in the Holocaust.


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http://mondoweiss.net/2011/09/zygmun...d-pogroms.html

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Works for me. Israel keeps the advantage and more Jews return to Judea and Samaria. The Arabs have shown they are not interested in peace, why negotiate when you have the upper hand?
It doesn't seem like either side in this conflict is interested in piece. Assassinating the Hamas leader was a totally counterproductive move. The timing of this conflict is also suspicious.

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11-22-2012, 01:23 AM
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It doesn't seem like either side in this conflict is interested in piece. Assassinating the Hamas leader was a totally counterproductive move. The timing of this conflict is also suspicious.
Not to mention the fact they are still building illegal settlements and not upholding the mandates of the UN...

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11-22-2012, 03:51 AM
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Good, I'm actually waiting for the people of the native Karuk Indian Tribe to come and kick you out of Irvine, it's their territory, once they get some international weapons support from a superpower like China it will be sooooooooo sweet to see them kick you and your family out on to the streets at gunpoint. And, if you and your fellow Irvinians try to fight back, let's hope they bomb the **** out of you with many civilian, women, and children casualties. Sounds fair to me.
If the Karuks come i will gladly cede Irvine back to its rightful owners and accept a slightly less awesome life in Santa Ana.

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11-22-2012, 08:33 AM
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Good, I'm actually waiting for the people of the native Karuk Indian Tribe to come and kick you out of Irvine, it's their territory, once they get some international weapons support from a superpower like China it will be sooooooooo sweet to see them kick you and your family out on to the streets at gunpoint. And, if you and your fellow Irvinians try to fight back, let's hope they bomb the **** out of you with many civilian, women, and children casualties. Sounds fair to me.
Who knows, maybe some day the Native Americans will get a museum in Washington depicting their holocaust, you know, since that one actually occurred here on these shores.

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Sygmunt Bauman, the Jewish sociologist and one of the greatest philosophers of our time, castigated Israel harshly this week, saying it did not want peace and was afraid of it.

Bauman said Israel was "taking advantage of the Holocaust to legitimize unconscionable acts," and compared the separation fence to the walls surrounding the Warsaw Ghetto, in which hundreds of thousands of Jews perished in the Holocaust.


http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...walls-1.381828

http://mondoweiss.net/2011/09/zygmun...d-pogroms.html
Haha what an idiot. The fence completely stopped the suicide bombing infiltration tactic the Arabs had been using to considerable effect. Bombings have dropped from daily event 10 years ago to rareity now, cuz of that fence.

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Haha what an idiot. The fence completely stopped the suicide bombing infiltration tactic the Arabs had been using to considerable effect. Bombings have dropped from daily event 10 years ago to rareity now, cuz of that fence.
Oh, it was the fence. And here I though it was the missiles which rendered the bombers superfluous.

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Oh, it was the fence. And here I though it was the missiles which rendered the bombers superfluous.
At least you admit you are an ignoramus.

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