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11-24-2012, 07:08 PM
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The North Dakota - Notre Dame game today was intense. It was a great game of hockey. MacMillan picked up a goal while Kristo picked up an assist on that goal. They played on the same line, MacMillan was on the left wing, while Kristo was on the right.

MacMillan played a pretty solid game. He did have a few bad moments though. He looked fatigued early on in the game and he also had a turnover on the blue that resulted in a breakaway and a tripping penalty for MacMillan. He also picked up another tripping penalty. Apart from the slow start and the lack of discipline, I thought he was good. He finished all of his checks and created a ton of chances. MacMillan, along with Kristo and Knight had quite a few shifts were they dominated the offensive zone. He picked up his goal on a 2 on 1 with Kristo. Kristo made a nice feed and MacMillan buried it. MacMillan is becoming one of my favourite prospects. He finishing his checks and plays hard. He's also got some good hands and great vision. Very intriguing prospect.

Kristo also played a good game. I was really impressed with how hard he competed and how strong he was on the boards. He was hard to knock off the puck and worked the boards well. He showed off some great hands throughout the game too. He was really shifty and fast too. He picked up his only point off a 2 on 1 with MacMillan. He recognized the open space and jumped in the centre of the ice and made a great pass. Kristo had a ton of scoring chances. He had a few chances that he should have buried. He also had a his fair share of turnovers, including two in his own zone. Overall, he was very dangerous tonight and had times where he completely controlled the game.
Nice report. It is nice to see the number of posters who take the time to watch these games and follow up with intelligent, thoughtful posts

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11-24-2012, 07:18 PM
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Brisebois was a lot better than MAB though. Brisebois was actually good defensively despite the brain cramps. Bergeron is pretty much a PP specialist.
The point is neither belong in a top 4, they didn't call him "breezeby" because of his inpenetrable defensive abilities.

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Brisebois was actually considered a contender for 1st overall a couple of seasons before his draft,he actually had a productive career.Too many people expected Patrice to live up to early expectations IMO and the pressure must have been huge.MAB shouldn't be compared to either Beaulieu or Brisebois as his career has been made on his PP abilities or very selected minutes defensively.Beaulieu is just starting his pro career in the AHL,with Lefebrve,Dufresne and Brisebois helping to teach the Habs young Dmen,I think Nathan's defensive game will improve immensely.Offensively Beaulieu and Subban can lead the Habs PP for yrs. to come after he learns to be responsible defensively(pinching in at the right times).Already he's better than MAB at 28yrs.IMO.

Oh is that all he needs to do? Learn how to play defense? Should take a weekend seminar or something. Thanks for the heads up on the future, lets wait and see if he actually makes the nhl before saying he will lead the team for years.

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11-24-2012, 09:55 PM
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The point is neither belong in a top 4, they didn't call him "breezeby" because of his inpenetrable defensive abilities.




Oh is that all he needs to do? Learn how to play defense? Should take a weekend seminar or something. Thanks for the heads up on the future, lets wait and see if he actually makes the nhl before saying he will lead the team for years.
Well I'll take a chance on Timmins call as will I on the future of Beaulieu,he's barely begun his career 15 regular season AHL games.From what I've seen makes optimism in his lot prudent not pessimism,he's 19 yrs.old.Nobody expects Nathan to be Bobby Orr after a weekend or even after two and half yrs.in the AHL,but I'm willing to bet Beaulieu will play in the NHL by then.

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11-25-2012, 06:55 AM
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The point is neither belong in a top 4, they didn't call him "breezeby" because of his inpenetrable defensive abilities.




Oh is that all he needs to do? Learn how to play defense? Should take a weekend seminar or something. Thanks for the heads up on the future, lets wait and see if he actually makes the nhl before saying he will lead the team for years.
Brisebois was a very good #3-4 who was forced into a top pair role because we didn't have anybody better at the time. He was a smart, skilled playeer but more in the current PMD mold, 15-20 years ago d-men had to be big and tough with a mean streak unless they were Ray Bourque or Paul Coffey. Guys like Derian Hatcher and Kyle Mclaren were good players who couldn't keep up with the current NHL pace.

Brisebois was often made the scapegoat because he was a long time member and a loacl guy, a bit like Darche...though Breezer had a bigger role.

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11-25-2012, 07:14 AM
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Brisebois was a very good #3-4 who was forced into a top pair role because we didn't have anybody better at the time. He was a smart, skilled playeer but more in the current PMD mold, 15-20 years ago d-men had to be big and tough with a mean streak unless they were Ray Bourque or Paul Coffey. Guys like Derian Hatcher and Kyle Mclaren were good players who couldn't keep up with the current NHL pace.

Brisebois was often made the scapegoat because he was a long time member and a loacl guy, a bit like Darche...though Breezer had a bigger role.
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11-25-2012, 07:40 AM
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The point is neither belong in a top 4, they didn't call him "breezeby" because of his inpenetrable defensive abilities.
Brisebois was a legit top-4 on any team for most of his career. He would have been a really good defensive dman if it wasn't for his 1 or 2 passes on an oppenents' stick each night. He had superior positionning and understanding of the game. He's +1 overall in his career, playing on bad team, facing the other team's best players.

Our team right now would be a lot better with Brisebois is his prime, than with whoever will be on our 2nd pairing behind Gorges-Subban.

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Our team right now would be a lot better with Brisebois is his prime, than with whoever will be on our 2nd pairing behind Gorges-Subban.
So Brisebois was better than Markov now? Now I know why you named yourself LeMad.

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The North Dakota game was a good one to watch as it had two of the top teams in the NCAA. Notre Dame played an impressive game as they were physical and got good goaltending, still wish the Habs had drafted Anders Lee, he's a beast out there.

MacMillan was back on the top line but on the PP they moved him down to the 2nd PP unit at center and Kristo went from the point on the 1st unit back to RW on the 1st unit. I thought Kristo had a strong game as he was very involved all night and had a number of chances, was a sweet pass to setup MacMillan's goal and I can't count the number of times i've seen Kristo make a sick pass to setup a goal or scoring chance.

Will get to see Colin Sullivan twice next weekend, looking forward to it as BC plays it's rival BU so shold be fun to see.



I also watched Galchenyuk last night, what a freaking goal he scored on the backhand but the game was very loopsided.

Saw that Dietz was a -6 last night Is there any word on when Thrower will be back? Last I heard he was day to day, started watching the Friday night game vs Bozon's team but the feed was really choppy.

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The North Dakota game was a good one to watch as it had two of the top teams in the NCAA. Notre Dame played an impressive game as they were physical and got good goaltending, still wish the Habs had drafted Anders Lee, he's a beast out there.

MacMillan was back on the top line but on the PP they moved him down to the 2nd PP unit at center and Kristo went from the point on the 1st unit back to RW on the 1st unit. I thought Kristo had a strong game as he was very involved all night and had a number of chances, was a sweet pass to setup MacMillan's goal and I can't count the number of times i've seen Kristo make a sick pass to setup a goal or scoring chance.

Will get to see Colin Sullivan twice next weekend, looking forward to it as BC plays it's rival BU so shold be fun to see.



I also watched Galchenyuk last night, what a freaking goal he scored on the backhand but the game was very loopsided.

Saw that Dietz was a -6 last night Is there any word on when Thrower will be back? Last I heard he was day to day, started watching the Friday night game vs Bozon's team but the feed was really choppy.
I feel the same way every time I watch Anders Lee play,the NYI's have so many good centermen coming through their system.Lee is listed at 6'3" and 228 lbs.with talent to burn most defencemen,he can go through them or around them.I'd love to see Bergevin make a deal for Lee or Strome,with Tavares already leading the team they might be persuaded to trade for help on defence.Watching Minnesota against Vermont right now on the Score channel.Florida's Bugstad is playing,he's another center similar in size and talent to Anders Lee.


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11-25-2012, 10:50 AM
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Brisebois was a legit top-4 on any team for most of his career. He would have been a really good defensive dman if it wasn't for his 1 or 2 passes on an oppenents' stick each night. He had superior positionning and understanding of the game. He's +1 overall in his career, playing on bad team, facing the other team's best players.

Our team right now would be a lot better with Brisebois is his prime, than with whoever will be on our 2nd pairing behind Gorges-Subban.
+1 over a 1000 game career is not indicitive of a good defenseman and if he is cracking your top 4 your team is terrible. Revisionist history at its finest I guess.

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11-25-2012, 11:07 AM
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In his prime Brisebois was an average puck mover for the second pairing, ideally on a great team he's on the third pairing.

He was overhyped by fans because of his name and lack of better options.

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In his prime Brisebois was an average puck mover for the second pairing, ideally on a great team he's on the third pairing.

He was overhyped by fans because of his name and lack of better options.
Not sure where the overhype was....who thought he should be on the first pairing? Most might think he's one the 2nd and since we rarely had a great team in the past years.....well it answers your post. Funny to hear about the hype when he was probably the most hated Habs player of all time.....

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He was so much overhyped by fans that Gainey had to publicly ask the fans to stop overhyping him so loud when he was on the ice in Montreal!

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+1 over a 1000 game career is not indicitive of a good defenseman and if he is cracking your top 4 your team is terrible. Revisionist history at its finest I guess.
Terrible defenseman don't play more than 500 games. I didn't like Brisebois, but in his prime he could legitimately be a number 4 dman and a pretty poor number 3.

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He was so much overhyped by fans that Gainey had to publicly ask the fans to stop overhyping him so loud when he was on the ice in Montreal!
Later years.

All the francophones I was friends with had Ragers for this guy in the mid 90s.

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Later years.

All the francophones I was friends with had Ragers for this guy in the mid 90s.
He was a guy with a lot of charisma and had some top clutch games that built his reputation. I never liked him as a player, thought he was one of the proudest guy to wear that jersey in the last 15 years.

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+1 over a 1000 game career is not indicitive of a good defenseman and if he is cracking your top 4 your team is terrible. Revisionist history at its finest I guess.
He wasn't just cracking our top-4 He was in our (yeah, weak) top-2 for most of his career. Want it or not, Brisebois was a good dman, but people who have trouble understanding hockey were only seeing his mistakes. The same way some people hated Hal Gill because he was slow and awkward. Good positionning is 75% of a dman job.

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So Brisebois was better than Markov now? Now I know why you named yourself LeMad.
Better than Markov in his prime? Hell no, of course. But at this stage of his career, Markov is probably on Kaberle's current level.

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You can see Mac Bennett's goal against Cornell at this link in Top Stories: http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-hock...ckey-body.html

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Great move on his goal from Bennett. And it's great to see him looking much bigger than he used to. Will surely never grow the way they expected him to be but he'll surely can work on becoming stronger which he clearly did.

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Hudon always seems to be in the 3 stars in every game he plays. 1st star tonight in a 2-1 shootout win vs Quebec. Picked up a primary assist on the goal but missed in the shootout.

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If you'd like to learn more about MacMillan, my article is published:

Up Close with Mark MacMillan: Habs Prospect with Discipline, Character

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If you'd like to learn more about MacMillan, my article is published:

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Very underrated prospect! Thanks for sharing Habsterix!

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Great move on his goal from Bennett. And it's great to see him looking much bigger than he used to. Will surely never grow the way they expected him to be but he'll surely can work on becoming stronger which he clearly did.
Ya, I still remember Timmins after the draft saying that all his uncles were 6'6 and how he was hoping he would grow! It did not happen.. Still, he remains a very intriguing prospect!

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Hudon always seems to be in the 3 stars in every game he plays. 1st star tonight in a 2-1 shootout win vs Quebec. Picked up a primary assist on the goal but missed in the shootout.

He was everywhere on the ice yesterday.

very nice play on the goal as he mesmerized the defense. A beauty. The puck looks glued to his stick.

He was the best player on the ice.

and his goal in shootout vs Victo friday was simply incredible.

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and his goal in shootout vs Victo friday was simply incredible.
RDS showed it:

http://www.rds.ca/zone-video/#cat=52&videoID=116461

There's also the video of yesterday's game, incredible play for an assist indeed.

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