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11-26-2012, 02:55 AM
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Are they crazy in Petersburg?

Best team so far and the only team that scored more than 100 goals released they head coach Milos Riha.
Reason? From SKA website:

“Considering the team’s goals, the board of directors decided to release Milos Riha from the post of head coach,” the statement said.


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11-26-2012, 03:59 AM
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Can't say I'm not surprised.

I can somewhat justify the move. SKA under Riha was swept last year in the semis, and clumsy defense played a big role in that humiliating defeat. Guess what, nothing changed this year. Offense is very potent, but lack of discipline and not the best D will probably kill this team in the post-season.

Their management was trying to solve the problem without changing Riha for someone else: they brought in Bob to replace Stepanek, got rid of Grebeshkov.

I'd love to see Bykov & Zakharkin coaching a KHL club again, but that won't happen.

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Can't say I'm not surprised.

I can somewhat justify the move. SKA under Riha was swept last year in the semis, and clumsy defense played a big role in that humiliating defeat. Guess what, nothing changed this year. Offense is very potent, but lack of discipline and not the best D will probably kill this team in the post-season.

Their management was trying to solve the problem without changing Riha for someone else: they brought in Bob to replace Stepanek, got rid of Grebeshkov.

I'd love to see Bykov & Zakharkin coaching a KHL club again, but that won't happen.
Joke?
Their teams always played "brazilian" hockey. Had they coached SKA instead of Rziha the problem would have been even bigger.
Bykov used to explain: "we play for fans".

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11-26-2012, 05:03 AM
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Not entirely unheard of.

A few years ago New Jersey finished in 1st place but sacked Claude Julien right before playoffs.

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... then they lost in the 2nd play-offs round, while Julien got hired by the Bruins and won the Stanley Cup there.

Yup, that worked.

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My opinion: "they are totally crazy in petersburg"

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11-26-2012, 06:57 AM
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Joke?
Their teams always played "brazilian" hockey. Had they coached SKA instead of Rziha the problem would have been even bigger.
Bykov used to explain: "we play for fans".
Heh, true. As I said, I was logically thinking when I wrote the first three paragraphs, but the last sentence was just pure emotion

Though BiZ outplayed Bilyaletdinov in 5 games a while ago, and had tight defense when needed. Just as in Bern in '09. Too bad that Riha wasn't given a chance to prove that he can accomplish the same feat.

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My opinion: "they are totally crazy in petersburg"
Maybe not the wisest decision time-wise, but a logical one. They look good against weaker teams. In the playoffs they'd have to face the likes of Dynamo Moscow. I don't see how SKA under Riha would have won a series against Dynamo Moscow.

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Heh, true. As I said, I was logically thinking when I wrote the first three paragraphs, but the last sentence was just pure emotion

Though BiZ outplayed Bilyaletdinov in 5 games a while ago, and had tight defense when needed. Just as in Bern in '09. Too bad that Riha wasn't given a chance to prove that he can accomplish the same feat.
It was not BiZ's merit. A lot of star players, champions were in those team. Players gathered in a locker room and they had a talk how to play, how to organize the game, no matter what new "fashionable directions in modern hockey" Zaharkin talked about.

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My opinion: "they are totally crazy in petersburg"
Especially female fans of Zenit.

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Maybe not the wisest decision time-wise, but a logical one. They look good against weaker teams. In the playoffs they'd have to face the likes of Dynamo Moscow. I don't see how SKA under Riha would have won a series against Dynamo Moscow.


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Though BiZ outplayed Bilyaletdinov in 5 games a while ago, and had tight defense when needed.
SYu outplayed Ak Bars, but hard to say that Zina was outcoached.

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SKA wasn't really convincing in recent weeks but they still won their games and showed great moral. If they wanted him out for the way his team plays why haven't they done that after last season?! Just stupid... wonder what happens if the team goes out in the first round again.

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Are they crazy in Petersburg?

No, they are Russian

"Russia is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. "
Winston Churchill

- That is the most accurate way to begin to explain what goes on over there.

Having said that, SKA was on it's path to a great dissapointment in the playoffs. The team was not stable, at all. They were playing Bykov hockey, heavily relying on superstars to bail them out almost every game.

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It was not BiZ's merit. A lot of star players, champions were in those team. Players gathered in a locker room and they had a talk how to play, how to organize the game, no matter what new "fashionable directions in modern hockey" Zaharkin talked about.
Yeah, for example a star goaltender - Ersberg.

Nah, of course I simplified the situation a lot by saying that BiZ were the only factor in that win, but there is no way you can do the contrary: claim that players won it and coaches didn't matter. That golden team had a ton of offensive talent, but was widely considered helpless defensively, just go back look at their C, D & G. Yet they won close one goal games vs Ak Bars, just can't be done without appropriate coaching.

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Finnish media was rumoring yesterday that Raimo Summanen could take over SKA but today they're talking that national team headcoach Jukka Jalonen would take over. He'd be able to finish out his contract with the national team (ends after this season) during this.

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This thread is becoming too lopsided. Riha doesn't deserve such an attitude. After all, I have to admit, that he is a best coach in a modern history of SKA, he led SKA to the conference final last season for the first time. And I really enjoyed Spartak and Atlant led by Riha.

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11-26-2012, 01:54 PM
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Yeah, for example a star goaltender - Ersberg.

Nah, of course I simplified the situation a lot by saying that BiZ were the only factor in that win, but there is no way you can do the contrary: claim that players won it and coaches didn't matter. That golden team had a ton of offensive talent, but was widely considered helpless defensively, just go back look at their C, D & G. Yet they won close one goal games vs Ak Bars, just can't be done without appropriate coaching.
I was at most of thoise games in person. BiZ did nothing to win those games. It was a good year for SYu and an extremely bad year for AkBars. Not even Bill could save it. The whole lois is flawed. What about 2009-2010? BiZ lost to Bill and AkBars. Does that mean anything?

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Anyway. Jalonen is probably the next coach to try and win a cup sitting on a sack of money...

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11-27-2012, 02:42 AM
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Would be interesting if Jukka Jalonen rumors turn out to be true. I'm surprised that SKA themselves haven't announced anything.

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I was at most of thoise games in person. BiZ did nothing to win those games. It was a good year for SYu and an extremely bad year for AkBars. Not even Bill could save it. The whole lois is flawed. What about 2009-2010? BiZ lost to Bill and AkBars. Does that mean anything?
Yeah, it means that after a past loss SYu coaches thought it other and were prepared the next year. Too bad that you didn't manage to see anything, better ask Khavanov.

I understand that a lot of people are upset after the OG '10 at BiZ and that Ak Bars fans are simply biased. But one has to think more in a perspective in order for others to take him seriously.

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Oh man this is Russia. Expect the unexpected.

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Czech article about Riha getting fired and about recent 2 matches of SKA

I love this quote (translation bellow) in particular:

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Po porážce s nováčkem soutěže Doněckem utrpěl dnes SKA debakl 1:6 na ledě Spartaku Moskva, podle šéfa klubu Alexandra Medveděva je to však vizitka bývalého trenérského štábu. "Ničeho nelituju. Zápasy s Doněckem a Spartakem ukázaly, proč jsme odvolali Říhu.
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After being beaten by the rookie team of KHL, Donetsk, SKA suffered a debacle tonight when losing 1:6 on Spartak Moskva's ice. According to the boss of SKA, Alexander Medvedev, those games account to the work of Milos Riha and his colleagues. "I don't regret any decision. Games with Donetsk and Spartak have shown why we've fired Riha."
I sure hope Riha won't lose the next match for them

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Games with Donetsk and Spartak have shown why we've fired Riha."
yeah, sure..

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Ah well... now it's obvious if SKA get trounced in the 1st round of play-offs, it's Říha's fault for setting them off in the wrong direction in the season's 1st half (never mind the top spot in the KHL). Guess what, any failures by SKA within the next 5 years could probably be traced back to the Říha years... Yeah!

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hahaha


this is crazy ... SKA is now cursed by Riha

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