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11-25-2012, 04:41 PM
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Is it possible his shooting percentage is so good because he has an insanely accurate shot? Just a thought.

And what is this arguement even about? Are you saying his success has been fluke?

Look I can bring stat lines out too:

Eberle:
37 AHL games, 18 G, 28 A, 46 P

You're right though, it's been a fluke both in the NHL and AHL.
And the WHL and the WJC.

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11-25-2012, 04:44 PM
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The goaltending has really taken the wind out of the team's sails. Lindholm, Etem, and Wagner are the only guys that have continued to improve in that time; I suppose Clark has been decent.

As for Lindholm, I'd say he's moved past Vatanen on the depth chart. If we had a season this year, I'd expect him to see time in Anaheim.
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11-25-2012, 05:00 PM
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Brayden Schenn is having a better season than any other forward in the AHL.

1 point behind Eberle w/o the unsustainable SH% that Eberle has.

Not to mention he's centering a line with Shane Harper and Tye McGinn.

Who?

Exactly.

2nd in points for FWD's while being tied for 3rd in SOG.


Oh, that's good.

The denial in your post is delicious. Seriously, it's so good.

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11-25-2012, 06:51 PM
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Anyone who watches Ebs knows where he actually scores his goals from he has about a 75% goal/shot ratio. His talent is getting into those positions
When he gets the puck between the hash marks and the goal line the puck is in the net.

Furthermore even if schenn and ebs were identical in all other facets of the game (which I don't believe) the difference in their backhands alone means an extra 7-10 goals for ebs


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11-25-2012, 07:22 PM
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Anyone who watches Ebs knows where he actually scores his goals from he has about a 75% goal/shot ratio. His talent is getting into those positions
When he gets the puck between the hash marks and the goal line the puck is in the net.

Furthermore even if schenn and ebs were identical in all other facets of the game (which I don't believe) the difference in their backhands alone means an extra 7-10 goals for ebs
Ya but you can say that for Ebs and 95% of the NHL haha

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11-25-2012, 08:31 PM
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1 point behind Eberle w/o the unsustainable SH%
OMG!!! That must totally mean B. Schenn > Eberle!!

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11-25-2012, 09:05 PM
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Bishop for Ryan
A few more losses and we may be desperate enough to pay that price.

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11-25-2012, 09:18 PM
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Lots of this shooting % discussion is awful. Eberle is a smart guy with an accurate shot and top playmaking ability. He chooses his shots wisely and doesn't waste scoring oppurtunities, if he doesn't have a good chance of scoring he will pass. Sure his shooting % will probably change, but that does not mean his point production will change with it. The argument that he is "due for a major regression" based on one stat line isn't convincing at all (and people have been talking about it for something like two years now, he has had an 18%+ shooting percentage for some 120 games now). With the addition of more statistical analysis some people take a much too literal approach and think that stats represent some kind of absolute of ability.

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11-25-2012, 10:40 PM
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Eberle gets to play on a line with RNH and Hall, with Schultz on D.

Schenn gets Harper, McGinn, Gustafsson and Bourdon.

Quite a difference.

Eberle will regress. Unless you're telling me he has as good of a shot as Stamkos.
Not as hard of a shot or as good of a onetimer, but I guess those are the only ways that you can score goals since you use Stammer as a comp.

As far as unsustainable shooting %'s go, how long will Harper's 24% and McGinn's 26%'s hold to keep getting Schenn assists?

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11-25-2012, 10:47 PM
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A very solid team, Faulk and Sanguinetti are offensive threats from their D, Dalpe and Boychuk are threats from their forward group. Dalpe has a wicked hard wrister. IMO the Checkers are probably the best team that we've played so far this season.
Carolina fans, you reckon Dalpe, Boychuk are ready to make the jump to the bigs this year?
(Assuming there is a season)

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11-25-2012, 11:22 PM
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and eberle's es points/pp are bound to go up either way.

I like it when other fans are ******** when they see eberle's shooting %, quite funny he's been doing this his whole career.
2010-2011 sh%: .114

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11-25-2012, 11:28 PM
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I think its pretty weak to try that argument on a player who has already put up 70 points in the NHL. I mean come on, the dude is basically scoring more and more every week

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11-25-2012, 11:37 PM
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2010-2011 sh%: .114
I think it's pretty common for rookie players to have a relatively low shooting percentage. It seems to me that Eberle simply understands the game better now.

Stamkos, for example, had a 12.7% sh% in his rookie year. Since then, he's maintained an average of 17.8% (19.8 last year).

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11-25-2012, 11:39 PM
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For me, it gets a little tired hearing the SH% argument against Eberle. Not that it isn't valid, but (probably of no fault of the person using the argument) I perceive it as a knockdown argument against him being a PPG player. I also don't think its crazy that Eberle sits at 16-17% average for many consecutive years (excluding his rookie year). I only say that because I have watched him since junior and he has an uncanny knack for scoring when he shoots. Sounds arbitrary, maybe, but he never seems to shoot unless he thinks he is going to score. And its in my opinion that when he does shoot, he demonstrates one of the most accurate wrist shots in the league. I think he also has some of the best hands, so when he gets close (as you can see for yourself in his shootouts) he doesn't miss often.

That being said, his SH% no doubt will come down; but I think it doesn't fall bellow 15%. That would make him still close to a 30 goal scorer, given he takes 180 shots a season.


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11-26-2012, 12:18 AM
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Guys, during Eriksson's breakout season, he had 36 goals while shooting at around 20%. Next season and every season since he's put up the same or more points even though his shot % and goal totals are lower. Isn't that what counts here? Even if Eberle's Shot % does decrease (I don't think it will, and if it does not by much), doesn't means he''s going to regress as a player, he may as well get as many if not more points, and that's what counts in the end.

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11-26-2012, 01:01 AM
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Guy's Eberle sucks cuz he shoots puck too good

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11-26-2012, 01:24 AM
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I think we need to talk about Jason Zucker...

He's probably underrated.

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11-26-2012, 01:37 AM
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I'm intrigued by Jonathan Audy-Marchessault. Undrafted, yet he's only 21 and putting up points equal to that of RNH right now. Is he good enough to make the NHL if it starts up?

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11-26-2012, 01:42 AM
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JAM is an interesting player. He's likely top 3 call up candidate IMO.

I'm still wondering why NYR let him go. Even though, he has more chances to make the team in Columbus. Solid move by Scott Howson.

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11-26-2012, 04:12 AM
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Tyler Johnson is also a nice pickup by Tampa Bay

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11-26-2012, 08:03 AM
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Carolina fans, you reckon Dalpe, Boychuk are ready to make the jump to the bigs this year?
(Assuming there is a season)
Both have struggled to translate their game to the NHL. Boychuk in particular has been raked over the coals for coasting around, looking lost. Dalpe was in a position to make some noise last year, but got hurt and never really got back on track. Both of them have basically the same problem, which is that they're not producing enough to clinch a scoring role and they don't bring anything defensively. But in the AHL they tear it up.

Now, things might be different under Kirk Muller, who doesn't seem nearly as hard on rookies as Paul Maurice.

Actually, the most NHL-ready forward on the Checkers is Drayson Bowman, who plays a quieter game but can defend and isn't horrible with the puck.

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11-26-2012, 08:31 AM
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I think we need to talk about Jason Zucker...

He's probably underrated.
Indeed, he is having a hell of a season. He's really done what a lot of people had hoped Coyle would do and step up with Granlund injured. Here is his OT winner last night against Abbotsford, he has a heck of a wrist shot.


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11-26-2012, 09:07 AM
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JAM is an interesting player. He's likely top 3 call up candidate IMO.

I'm still wondering why NYR let him go. Even though, he has more chances to make the team in Columbus. Solid move by Scott Howson.
He had no chance in New York. Too small for a 4th line in our system, and not good enough for anything else. Newbury is still a better callup

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11-26-2012, 09:11 AM
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What about Wilkes-Barre Baby Pens? They aren´t mentioned a lot, but the fact is they have won 11 from their last 14 games. Looks like a very solid young team. That stacked young defense which Pens have in their organization gonna be very good.

Also, Jeff Zatkoff was a great pickup for them, that goalie is NHL ready.

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He had no chance in New York. Too small for a 4th line in our system, and not good enough for anything else.
Nowhere near as "good" as NHL 1st line lock Chris Kreider....

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