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RD Matt Dumba (2012, 7th overall, Minnesota)

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10-30-2012, 12:56 PM
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That if you're a top ten pick and not doing well, it's a problem.

Unless we're actually complementing the Wild for doing well with high picks, because we all know how hard that is.
Don't act as if all top 10 picks are automatic locks to become solid and proven NHL players. If that's what you think, you have a lot of learning to do.

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10-30-2012, 02:31 PM
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At least in my viewing of him this hasn't at all been true. That's the impression I got before I watched him though. From what I've seen he's quite responsible.
Actually I agree with you, this season he has been much more responsible, but his X-Factor (I like to call it that ) ability will follow him to the NHL. A lot like how PK Subban played as a rookie in juniors, as a veteran in juniors, a rookie in the NHL, and a veteran in the NHL.

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10-30-2012, 02:40 PM
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Don't act as if all top 10 picks are automatic locks to become solid and proven NHL players. If that's what you think, you have a lot of learning to do.
Yeah, you don't have to go too far back into Wild draft history to see how hard it can be to draft in top 10. But then again, that's what he might've been referring to in the first place.

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10-30-2012, 09:55 PM
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That if you're a top ten pick and not doing well, it's a problem.

Unless we're actually complementing the Wild for doing well with high picks, because we all know how hard that is.
Well we have a bad track record with our high picks lol..

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are the rebels a worse team overall this year? say at the end of the year his stats have a major decline, hopefully its related to the team and not him

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11-01-2012, 05:22 PM
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That if you're a top ten pick and not doing well, it's a problem.

Unless we're actually complementing the Wild for doing well with high picks, because we all know how hard that is.
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Don't act as if all top 10 picks are automatic locks to become solid and proven NHL players. If that's what you think, you have a lot of learning to do.
Boom! You just got Renegaded with Style!

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11-01-2012, 05:31 PM
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Boom! You just got Renegaded with Style!
Lololol..

And to the OP,

Yes the Rebels aren't very strong.

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11-02-2012, 01:15 PM
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That if you're a top ten pick and not doing well, it's a problem.

Unless we're actually complementing the Wild for doing well with high picks, because we all know how hard that is.
Cam Barker would like a word with you. He's right there with James Sheppard, Tyler Cuma, Colton Gillies and Benoit Pouliot. A.J. Thelen was supposed to be here too, but we have no idea what happened to him.

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11-02-2012, 03:02 PM
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Dumba makes high risk, high reward moves and plays that could win hockey games, but can lose them as well.
I've seen a lot of Matt Dumba, and all I'll say is that this guy ^^^ is correct. He has the tools to be a superstar, but his decision making is brutal at times. He needs to get smarter, which could well happen, but I don't know if he'll be the kind of player who can jump from the WHL right to the NHL. A year in the AHL would probably benefit him immensly.

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11-02-2012, 03:37 PM
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He needs to get smarter, which could well happen, but I don't know if he'll be the kind of player who can jump from the WHL right to the NHL. A year in the AHL would probably benefit him immensly.
wild prob wont rush him either, we got brodin steppin up to the show in 2013. Brodin 2013, 'see ya later AHL'

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11-02-2012, 04:31 PM
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Cam Barker would like a word with you. He's right there with James Sheppard, Tyler Cuma, Colton Gillies and Benoit Pouliot. A.J. Thelen was supposed to be here too, but we have no idea what happened to him.
They actually went out and traded one of their few good first round picks for Cam Barker, just to keep the streak going.

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11-02-2012, 04:50 PM
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After reading the title thread, im officially rooting for him to be a bust.

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11-15-2012, 10:30 PM
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A preview for the upcoming Wild Prospect Handbook Issue 2.0, written by writers from Hockey Wilderness and First Round Bust. This preview article is a scouting report on Matt Dumba.

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11-16-2012, 01:01 AM
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A preview for the upcoming Wild Prospect Handbook Issue 2.0, written by writers from Hockey Wilderness and First Round Bust. This preview article is a scouting report on Matt Dumba.

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Interesting read. Thanks for posting that. He's one guy I'm really wanting to watch more than I've been able to as he's made quite a few mistakes offensively and got caught flat footed a lot the games I've managed to watch him

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Interesting read. Thanks for posting that. He's one guy I'm really wanting to watch more than I've been able to as he's made quite a few mistakes offensively and got caught flat footed a lot the games I've managed to watch him
He is a risky prospect...has so many impressive skills but needs to learn how to use them effectively...

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11-16-2012, 04:44 PM
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Every time I've seen him I come away with the same impression: very good skater, great shot, really like his energy level and physicality, but his hockey sense is mediocre at best. On offence he's prone to holding onto the puck when there are seemingly obvious, great passes available, he's a bit turnover prone, and defensively he seems to get caught out of position a bit too much. Smaller, somewhat poor man's Phaneuf IMO. Should mature into a top 4 dman for the Wild, but I don't see him being as good as he could be with his raw physical tools/skills.

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A preview for the upcoming Wild Prospect Handbook Issue 2.0, written by writers from Hockey Wilderness and First Round Bust. This preview article is a scouting report on Matt Dumba.

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11-26-2012, 09:24 AM
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Any other updates or reports on him?

He's been statistically underwhelming this year. The usual excuse is the team isn't that good, but his team has been winning games.

Is he playing more of a defensive style this year and helping the team win or is he slipping down the depth chart and getting less ice?

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11-26-2012, 09:57 AM
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here is what the few guys on the Leafs board had to say about him on his game against Moose Jaw on Saturday night.

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Hate to say it, but Dumba's outplayed Rielly so far tonight. He looks great. Definitely more comfortable in Red Deer than he's appeared at any sort of international level.
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Just returned from the Red Deer game. Dumba had a good game tonight with a PP goal and a couple hits.

Warriors spent way more time in the Rebels end of the ice but weren't rewarded with goals. Rielly looked really good, he broke up quite a few plays, made a nice short handed rush, made a few rushes while MJ made line changes, and a couple nice outlet passes. His mobility, skating, and puck control really stand out.
As you can see from the comments, it looks like he is playing very well in all 3 zones.

I really like Dumba, I think he gets underrated around here quite a bit. He seems to receive the most flak from any top d-man drafted in the 2012 draft, like in the SSS, everyone had nothing but negative to say about him but I personally found him as one of the better d-man in the 1st game of SSS.

Aside from his size hockey IQ, Dumba has excellent skill-set and plays with a ton of energy and heart.


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11-26-2012, 02:12 PM
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Any other updates or reports on him?

He's been statistically underwhelming this year. The usual excuse is the team isn't that good, but his team has been winning games.

Is he playing more of a defensive style this year and helping the team win or is he slipping down the depth chart and getting less ice?
Meh, I expect Brent Sutter to be heavily mentoring Dumba this season with the departure of Jesse Wallin. Brent had a similar d-man in Dion Phaneuf 10 years ago and molded him from unruly junior with a ton of raw skill into a valuable pro.

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11-26-2012, 02:14 PM
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Im a fan of the style of game Dumba has made for himself.

Im concerned though that somtimes Dumba seems sort of.... Dumb? (no pun intended)

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Meh, I expect Brent Sutter to be heavily mentoring Dumba this season with the departure of Jesse Wallin. Brent had a similar d-man in Dion Phaneuf 10 years ago and molded him from unruly junior with a ton of raw skill into a valuable pro.
I think Sutter will really help Dumba's development.....Good news for the Wild because he's a prospect with tonnes of potential and needs to be brought along by an experienced hand.....

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11-26-2012, 04:01 PM
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Any other updates or reports on him?

He's been statistically underwhelming this year. The usual excuse is the team isn't that good, but his team has been winning games.

Is he playing more of a defensive style this year and helping the team win or is he slipping down the depth chart and getting less ice?
He's really trying to improve his defensive game and show that he can play well in all three zones. He isn't taking as many risks as he used to which is resulting in both less defensive gaffes and less offensive opportunities. He's still getting his though.

He definitely isn't slipping down the depth chart and is still Red Deer's go to D-man. As others have stated, Brent Sutter coaching now is definitely going to just help Dumba improve his play. He was really close to Wallin, but Sutter will likely be better for him in the long run.

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Wow, had no idea Sutter was coaching there. Excellent news and that would explain Dumba's changing style.

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Im a fan of the style of game Dumba has made for himself.

Im concerned though that somtimes Dumba seems sort of.... Dumb? (no pun intended)
I wouldn't call it dumb, but more risky. He tries to force the play at times for a breakaway pass or an oddman rush. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't.

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Wow, had no idea Sutter was coaching there. Excellent news and that would explain Dumba's changing style.
Has been since November 14. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=645660

5-0 since Sutter took the helm.

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