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Fantasy Draft - 1st overall pick

View Poll Results: With the 1st overall pick, the Flyers select:
Nicklas Backstrom 0 0%
Sidney Crosby 66 47.48%
Pavel Datsyuk 1 0.72%
Marian Hossa 0 0%
Claude Giroux 3 2.16%
Ilya Kovalchuk 1 0.72%
Evgeni Malkin 32 23.02%
Alex Ovechkin 0 0%
Corey Perry 1 0.72%
Daniel Sedin 0 0%
Henrik Sedin 0 0%
Jason Spezza 0 0%
Martin St. Louis 0 0%
Steven Stamkos 14 10.07%
John Tavares 2 1.44%
Jonathan Toews 1 0.72%
Zdeno Chara 1 0.72%
Drew Doughty 0 0%
Erik Karlsson 1 0.72%
Duncan Keith 0 0%
Kris Letang 2 1.44%
Alex Pietrangelo 1 0.72%
Ryan Suter 0 0%
Shea Weber 2 1.44%
Henrik Lundqvist 4 2.88%
Carey Price 2 1.44%
Jonathan Quick 2 1.44%
Pekka Rinne 0 0%
Cam Ward 2 1.44%
Other 1 0.72%
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11-26-2012, 11:36 AM
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Flyers are great at building competitive teams minus the goalie

so I'd draft Lundqvist first

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11-26-2012, 11:44 AM
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I voted for Malkin simply due to Crosby's health concerns. It was especially close because Crosby is a more marketable personality than Malkin.

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11-26-2012, 12:02 PM
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Yea cause you're a GM right?

Get real

Crosby AINEC.
No my goal in building a team is to win, not building a team to score a million goals and lose early in the playoffs.

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11-26-2012, 12:10 PM
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Malkin.

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11-26-2012, 12:14 PM
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No my goal in building a team is to win, not building a team to score a million goals and lose early in the playoffs.
having elite Centers is more important to winning than having elite Goalies

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11-26-2012, 01:34 PM
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having elite Centers is more important to winning than having elite Goalies
How long have you been watching hockey? Serious question.

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Malkin is almost as good as Crosby, and doesn't have concussion problems. I pick him.
In my mind Malkin is just as good

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11-26-2012, 02:52 PM
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Justin Schultz AINEC.

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11-26-2012, 03:22 PM
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stamkos, giroux or tavares

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having elite Centers is more important to winning than having elite Goalies
No it isn't not even close actually. The goalie is by far the most important position on the ice.

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11-26-2012, 03:55 PM
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having elite Centers is more important to winning than having elite Goalies
Not true. If the last few SC finals have showed us anything, it's that having elite goaltending is the important thing to get you there (Quick, Brodeur, Luongo, Thomas, etc.)

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Not true. If the last few SC finals have showed us anything, it's that having elite goaltending is the important thing to get you there (Quick, Brodeur, Luongo, Thomas, etc.)
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11-26-2012, 04:40 PM
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having elite Centers is more important to winning than having elite Goalies
noooooo

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11-26-2012, 05:02 PM
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How long have you been watching hockey? Serious question.
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No it isn't not even close actually. The goalie is by far the most important position on the ice.
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Not true. If the last few SC finals have showed us anything, it's that having elite goaltending is the important thing to get you there (Quick, Brodeur, Luongo, Thomas, etc.)
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noooooo
just look at all the cup winners since the lockout and their Goalies and Centers

2012:

Kopitar,Richards

Quick


2011:

Krejci,Bergeron

Thomas

2010:

Toews

Niemi

2009:

Crosby,Malkin

Fleury

2008:

Datsyuk/Zetterberg(they played together that year so only one but both are Centers)

Osgood

2007:

Getzlaf

Giguere

2006:

Staal

Ward


every team on that list except Boston had an elite Center and Boston had crazy depth and both Krejci and Bergeron playing extremely well

I wouldn't call half of the Goalies on that list elite

the Center position is INCREDIBLY important

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11-26-2012, 07:42 PM
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You didn't answer my question.

Three of those guys won the Conn Smythe in those Cup winning years. Plus, Giguere had already won one in 2003. Bad argument, man.

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You didn't answer my question.

Three of those guys won the Conn Smythe in those Cup winning years. Plus, Giguere had already won one in 2003. Bad argument, man.
Three centres won the Conn Smythe too in Zetterberg, Toews, and Malkin.

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11-26-2012, 07:59 PM
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Malkin easily.

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Crosby + Howard is good for stats but an elite goalie is good for winning playoff series
Yeah, no. Every GM in the league would take Crosby/Howard over any goaltender in the NHL.

And if Rinne and Lundqvist are the key to winning in the playoffs, why doesn't either of them have a ring? Sid does...


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Three centres won the Conn Smythe too in Zetterberg, Toews, and Malkin.
And?

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And?
None of them played with elite goaltenders, proving that you don't need an elite goaltender to win a Stanley Cup. With amazing centers, your goaltending need only be "good enough". The opposite can also be true.

But I'd rather have Crosby+Howard than Lundqvist every day of the week.

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And? That is not what he said originally, correct? Also, you'll likely notice that those Finals were AFTER the lockout, and AFTER they took out the redline, and tweaked the rules specifically for offense.

And guess what? It worked! For a few seasons at least. That is until teams figured out how to play defense against the rule changes. And guess what else? If they change the rules for offense again, they'll find another defensive scheme that will reduce scoring. And finally, you knew it was coming, guess what else, else? Your goalie is always going to be the key.

A great goalie can take a poor team A LOT farther than a great center can alone. You know why? There is only one goalie! It's a numbers game.

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And? That is not what he said originally, correct? Also, you'll likely notice that those Finals were AFTER the lockout, and AFTER they took out the redline, and tweaked the rules specifically for offense.

And guess what? It worked! For a few seasons at least. That is until teams figured out how to play defense against the rule changes. And guess what else? If they change the rules for offense again, they'll find another defensive scheme that will reduce scoring. And finally, you knew it was coming, guess what else, else? Your goalie is always going to be the key.

A great goalie can take a poor team A LOT farther than a great center can alone. You know why? There is only one goalie! It's a numbers game.
It's not that teams suddenly discovered new defensive strategies, the refs became more lax in enforcing obstruction and teams in the past couple years have taken advantage of how the game is being called.

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I would take Stamkos.

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