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LD Griffin Reinhart - Edmonton Oil Kings, WHL (2012, 4th overall, New York Islanders)

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11-27-2012, 12:57 PM
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What side of the D pairing does he normally play? Does he seem to be just as good from either?

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11-27-2012, 01:12 PM
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What side of the D pairing does he normally play? Does he seem to be just as good from either?
If I remember correctly, I am very sure he plays LD. But he goes where needs to be in the defensive zone to help his D-partner or bail out a bad mistake.

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11-27-2012, 02:11 PM
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Cant wait till the BIG GRIFF lands on the Island(Brooklyn)

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Huh? That's pretty much the only place in the past few years where the Isles have shown themselves to be anything other than incompetent. They've done a good job of collecting talent. They've got a top farm system that's deep in all positions.
Yeah...Not as hard when you pick top 5 every year (and I'm an Isles fan).

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11-27-2012, 10:35 PM
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Yeah...Not as hard when you pick top 5 every year (and I'm an Isles fan).
How many top 5 picks picked during he Snow Era are playing in the NHL right now? YOu forget about several good picks made after the first round. Ie Hamonic, Donovon, Martin, Poulin, Ullstrom, Nilsson, Cizikas, Lee, Nelson, Kabanov etc.

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11-28-2012, 12:12 PM
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How many top 5 picks picked during he Snow Era are playing in the NHL right now? YOu forget about several good picks made after the first round. Ie Hamonic, Donovon, Martin, Poulin, Ullstrom, Nilsson, Cizikas, Lee, Nelson, Kabanov etc.
I didn't forget any of them. Not knocking the later picks which are as good as any team has made from rounds 2-7 over the past 5 years (although they've also had some bizarro throwaway picks in those rounds during the same period).

That said, my original comment was trying to make the point that with Wang in charge I believe the Isles are going nowhere no matter how well they draft. They have a great prospect pool...Wonderful. I'm interested in winning the Stanley Cup, and I don't believe that Wang has the brain to hire the right people and make the moves necessary to develop those prospects into players that will lead to Stanley Cups (and I'm taking into account the move to Barclays Center).

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Has anyone heard anything about Hockey Canada's appeal of the 4 game suspension he got at WJC?...i think it carries over to next year's WJC (if it's not successfully appealed).

If the full suspension carries over, I'm not sure whether it will affect his chances of making the team. It would mean he misses the entire prelim round (including the NYE game vs USA). But he's also been there before, so you'd think HC would want his experience. Also, now that they've changed things so the group winner no longer gets a bye to the semi finals it might not be such a big deal if he's not there.

My one concern is that inevitably someone is going to be an idiot and get suspended early on...so it won't help if we're already down someone...although it's usually a forward who gets suspended, so maybe it won't matter.

Of course, I'm assuming he won't be in the NHL next year. If he is, none of this matters.

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06-18-2013, 08:28 AM
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Has anyone heard anything about Hockey Canada's appeal of the 4 game suspension he got at WJC?...i think it carries over to next year's WJC (if it's not successfully appealed).

If the full suspension carries over, I'm not sure whether it will affect his chances of making the team. It would mean he misses the entire prelim round (including the NYE game vs USA). But he's also been there before, so you'd think HC would want his experience. Also, now that they've changed things so the group winner no longer gets a bye to the semi finals it might not be such a big deal if he's not there.

My one concern is that inevitably someone is going to be an idiot and get suspended early on...so it won't help if we're already down someone...although it's usually a forward who gets suspended, so maybe it won't matter.

Of course, I'm assuming he won't be in the NHL next year. If he is, none of this matters.
I thought I remembered reading that it would eat up the round robin games then he'd be back anyways but I'm not sure on the answer to your question.

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MY boy Griff!! He's the Big Cat...calm and cool

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09-24-2013, 03:13 PM
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Griffin Reinhart's potential

This is Reinhart's 2nd NYI training camp. He was solid last yr and has been getting props from the coaches , a team scout and the press in this yr's camp. He looks like he will get at least a 9 game look, to start the season.

There is plenty of debate among NYI fans about whether Reinhart would be better off returning to juniors, where he can play 25 mins a game and work to improve offensively or whether he should stick on LI all season.

One poster suggested sending him back, gave him a chance to develop into a dominate defenseman like Pietranglo.

Does Reinhart have that type of upside and is he better served returning to juniors for 1 more season.

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09-24-2013, 03:41 PM
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This is Reinhart's 2nd NYI training camp. He was solid last yr and has been getting props from the coaches , a team scout and the press in this yr's camp. He looks like he will get at least a 9 game look, to start the season.

There is plenty of debate among NYI fans about whether Reinhart would be better off returning to juniors, where he can play 25 mins a game and work to improve offensively or whether he should stick on LI all season.

One poster suggested sending him back, gave him a chance to develop into a dominate defenseman like Pietranglo.

Does Reinhart have that type of upside and is he better served returning to juniors for 1 more season.
I don't think he has the same upside as Pietranglo. Another season in the WHL won't increase his offense level that significantly. I like him as a solid #2 guy down the road.

That being said, I think he's pretty much done everything he can at the Junior level. Playing for a still strong Oil King squad may not be the best for his growth.

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09-24-2013, 03:47 PM
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I think he will turn into a guy like Braydon Coburn. And contrary to popular belief on this website, that's a pretty good defensemen.

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09-24-2013, 03:47 PM
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Less physical Brent Seabrook? And in that I mean top pairing, all situation D, good for mid 30s-40 pts

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09-24-2013, 03:50 PM
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I really don't know how to peg his potential. At the time of the 2008 draft, I don't think anyone expected Pietrangelo to become the kind of defenceman he is today. Similarly, I don't think people realize the kind of upside Reinhart has. Whether or not he will reach it is debatable. I think given his physical tools, he should be a very competent defenceman. His hockey IQ will do the rest of the work - it will make or break him, making him either a franchise defenceman, or more of a complementary defenceman. Personally I expect him as a top end middle pairing defenceman or a mid-range top pairing d-man, but we'll see just how erratic a d-mans development can be.

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09-24-2013, 05:40 PM
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I think he will turn into a guy like Braydon Coburn. And contrary to popular belief on this website, that's a pretty good defensemen.
This is actually a decent comparison.

I don't think Reinhart, even with another year of junior, has Pietrangelo's natural offensive skill. So I don't think an extra year in the WHL will result in him developing a huge offensive game (Pietrangelo was an offensive stud way before his final season). But I do think it can help develop whatever offensive upside Reinhart does have.

Another guy I've sort of likened Reinhart's ultimate upside to is Marc Staal. A good shutdown defenseman who can also chip in 25+ points.

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09-24-2013, 05:51 PM
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09-24-2013, 06:02 PM
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I really don't know how to peg his potential. At the time of the 2008 draft, I don't think anyone expected Pietrangelo to become the kind of defenceman he is today. Similarly, I don't think people realize the kind of upside Reinhart has. Whether or not he will reach it is debatable. I think given his physical tools, he should be a very competent defenceman. His hockey IQ will do the rest of the work - it will make or break him, making him either a franchise defenceman, or more of a complementary defenceman. Personally I expect him as a top end middle pairing defenceman or a mid-range top pairing d-man, but we'll see just how erratic a d-mans development can be.
There were some pretty clear signs with Pietrangelo as early as a few months after he was drafted. I liked what I saw out of Reinhart, this year, but he didn't look like he was heading down the same road as Pietrangelo did. Mind you, he still looks to be a damn good defenseman.

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09-24-2013, 06:46 PM
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Coburn, Staal, Cowen, Reinhart
All in the same boat at different stages in their careers.

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Really big fan of Griff. I see him as a 40-ish point dman who can shut down top lines in his prime.

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He has more offensive abilities than I thought, faster than I thought and less physical than I thought. I think the speed was because he dropped weight and improved in the offseason.

I think he is really pushing for those 9 games which wasn't likely going into the training camp.

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This is actually a decent comparison.

I don't think Reinhart, even with another year of junior, has Pietrangelo's natural offensive skill. So I don't think an extra year in the WHL will result in him developing a huge offensive game (Pietrangelo was an offensive stud way before his final season). But I do think it can help develop whatever offensive upside Reinhart does have.

Another guy I've sort of likened Reinhart's ultimate upside to is Marc Staal. A good shutdown defenseman who can also chip in 25+ points.
That's pretty funny because I was just going to ask if he can be a Marc Staal type of player, which I would be very happy about.

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Really big fan of Griff. I see him as a 40-ish point dman who can shut down top lines in his prime.
I'd be REALLY shocked if Reinhart ever put up 40 points in an NHL season...

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Thanks for the feedback. I waiver on keeping Reinhart up. I would love for him to step in and help this season , but if one more season in juniors can bring out untapped offense, I would prefer he return to juniors.

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I'd be REALLY shocked if Reinhart ever put up 40 points in an NHL season...
Reinhart has some good offensive instincts. If he continues to develop and plays top pairing, top PP minutes on a strong Islanders team, 40 points isn't unrealistic.

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Absolutley love this kids composure..He has been one of the Isles best defenseman in Preseason and has looked like an NHL player....Hes only 19 though, can he sustain that good play for an entire 82 NHL game season?

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