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10-01-2012, 11:08 AM
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PSG climbing to #2 behind OM and sunday is.... OM-PSG.

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10-01-2012, 12:01 PM
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Ugh, it's already the Clasico on Sunday

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10-07-2012, 02:32 PM
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OM takes the lead through Gignac then Ibra scores twice in 3 minutes.

edit: Gignac ties it up again, 2-2 after 30 minutes

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10-07-2012, 03:35 PM
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Ibra's FK for those who want to watch it again. Apparantly was recorded at 101 km/h


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10-08-2012, 01:40 PM
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I heard outside PSG, only one or two (Gourcuff, Lisandro?).
Are you kidding ? Have a look at how many players were making millions last year. And that's only a top 20 stopping at 3M per.

http://www.footmercato.net/ligue1/qu...-ligue-1_82168

Sure 6 of them left for other reasons than the 75% tax but this idea remains totally ridicilous...This is how we'll kill investment and entreprenership in France.

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10-08-2012, 02:23 PM
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OK, but from the list you gave me :

1- Eden Hazard GONE

2- Yoann Gourcuff As I told you

3- Hugo Lloris GONE

4- Michel Bastos NEARLY GONE

5- Cris GONE

6- Diego Lugano PSG

7- Alex PSG

8- Lisandro Lopez AS I TOLD YOU

9- Thiago Motta PSG

10- Mamadou Sakho PSG

11- Momo Sissoko PSG

12- Alou Diarra GONE

13- Nenê PSG

14- André-Pierre Gignac OK

15- Kim Källström GONE

16- Kevin Gameiro PSG

17- Bafetimbi Gomis OK

18- Jérémy Ménez PSG

19- Loïc Rémy OK

20- Salvatore Sirigu PSG

So I wasn't too far off, outside PSG, there are only very few players that "earn" that much, and these guys are either at OM or OL.

I don't think investment will be killed that way. More than 1M€ a year IS ridiculous.

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10-11-2012, 01:38 PM
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So you want french Ligue 1 to remain a 2nd zone championship ? The european market being what it is we cannot restrict the few teams that are able to compete financially. And these teams are even getting fewer while Marseille and Lyon went on drastic salary cuts this summer, even if I think things will change in Lyon once they'll have their stadium. And while these top teams are heading on salary cuts, others in Russia and even in China are starting to recruit top Euro players. I seriously think we couldn't afford this 75%.

I'm curious to know what type of recruitment Moncao will lead next year when in Ligue 1. I think we can guess that they should go for an above average after having recruited Ocampos for 11M while in L2. And there main asset will be being in Monaco.

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10-11-2012, 03:45 PM
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It's not the politics forum so I won't develop, but I personally don't think Ligue 1 should be seen as having more importance than the country's policies.
And yes I've followed L1 where we can't compete on the european stage because we do'nt allow debts. And I think it's great.

As for Monaco, they already have signed multiple top level players. I'm sure they'll challenge for a european spot next year.

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10-15-2012, 08:45 AM
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To close the question, here's an article I found on Sportune. There will be exactly 146 players to make at least 1M€ in Ligue 1 this season.

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10-15-2012, 09:00 AM
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To close the question, here's an article I found on Sportune. There will be exactly 146 players to make at least 1M€ in Ligue 1 this season.
Wow, that's a lot more than I thought. Can you give the link (it doesn't appear on your post)? Not doubting you, I'd like to see the names.

In any case, again, I don't find it a problem. I'd rather have a fairer society than a competitive league.

And besides, as I said, we're already not competitive anymore because of the no-debt policy, which I find just as fair.

We've become a feeder league. We have to live with it. A damn good feeder league because we produce a huge amount of talents. But still nothing more than a feeder league.

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11-17-2012, 12:04 PM
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PSG really struggling without Ibra.. Losing at home to Rennes despite being up by 2 men(!) for nearly 40 minutes.

They seem to suck at home anyway though, only won 3 out of 7 games at the Parc.

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I was searching for this thread but couldnt find it. Big lol game for PSG.

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11-17-2012, 01:05 PM
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There's more than the scoreline here.

They hit the post 3 times. Rennes scored on their only two shots on target.
They've been much worse than that this season and came out with wins. Rennes has also been red hot recently.

I don't think you can say it's because Ibra wasn't here. They lost to Saint Etienne with him and nearly won in Montpellier without him. And today again, they were better than most games.

Still they have 1 point in 3 games.

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11-17-2012, 01:56 PM
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It seems to me they don't really have any flow in their game. Normally that's ok because Ibra makes the difference.

But they weren't very good at Montpellier (I know they played the entire game a man down) and in the final 30 minutes today they created very little. Bad passing, bad positioning, bad crossing..

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11-17-2012, 03:38 PM
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Ancelotti in his 11 months with the team has never managed to create any gel with PSG.
He's pinned that on the "new players" thing, but we all know that's an excuse that shouldn't last 11 months.

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11-26-2012, 06:38 PM
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11-28-2012, 12:08 PM
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Why do Monaco have such poor attendances? I realise their attendance is astronomical if you choose to only consider the population of the principality itself but when you take the fact that Monaco is basically a suburb of Nice into consideration their attendance of 5500-6000 starts looking really poor. You'd figure that a club with their history in a region that populous would have attendances at least twice that, even in Ligue 2.

Are people from the Côte d'Azur just not very bothered about football in general?

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11-28-2012, 12:35 PM
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Nice is a team that drags a lot of fans. Monaco is not part of France, Nice fans hate them.
Monaco fans are ... from Monaco.

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11-28-2012, 01:03 PM
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Nice is a team that drags a lot of fans. Monaco is not part of France, Nice fans hate them.
Monaco fans are ... from Monaco.
But it's not as if Nice are some powerhouse at the turnstiles either.

And from what I've read Monaco are apparently one of the clubs with the most supporters in France in terms of raw numbers, I'm guessing most of those fans live far from Monaco itself?

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11-28-2012, 01:52 PM
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But it's not as if Nice are some powerhouse at the turnstiles either.

And from what I've read Monaco are apparently one of the clubs with the most supporters in France in terms of raw numbers, I'm guessing most of those fans live far from Monaco itself?
Yes it's true, plenty of fans around France, but not plenty in the South, where there's the rivalry.
Nice has a nice faithful group of fans. They'd never cheer for the rivals.

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Lyon now lead the league, despite having sold most of their top players in the summer.

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11-30-2012, 04:35 AM
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Lyon now lead the league, despite having sold most of their top players in the summer.
And playing some great football.
They are relying on their exceptionnal 1991 generation and lots of youngsters are starting (Grenier, Lacazette, Umtiti, Fofana) and playing great football.
Grenier especially is getting some attention and is talked about for the NT. Definately a possibility IMO.

They're a joy to watch right now and they might even sell some more in the winter (Bastos, Reveillère, Lisandro).

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And now PSG are 4th in the league, 5 whole points behind Lyon. In fact, they're only 1 point avobe 7th place Rennes.
They don't even have a win in half the games they've played.

Worse, after 15 games last year, Antoine Kombouaré, without Ibrahimovic (who has scored 13 of PSG's 24 goals this season), without Thiago Silva, without Verratti, without Lavezzi and without Van Der Wiel (who has sucked like crazy) had 5 more points than Ancelotti this year.

Crisis is ON big time.
Rumors (and I stress the word rumors) are that the qataris are ready to say goobye to both Ancelotti and Leonardo.
They've contacted Guardiola who has refused to come now, but who has interest in coming next summer. Wenger and Mourinho are on the short list.
To finish the season, Gerets could be called. Makelele is also a possibility, but the qataris would rather fire everyone, assistant coaches included.

To replace Leonardo, the qataris might recall Denisot, who was president of PSG when they were in the CL semi final (in the 90s).

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