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11-27-2012, 04:58 PM
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If I remember correctly, Varnakov wanted him to play in SSS but he wasn't released by his AHL team.
which makes no sense since his AHL team isnt even playing him.. ruining opportunities for him

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Guess who had the most ice time today for Yugra?

-Kirill Dyakov : 22 minutes 1 A, and remains a + 4 on the season (highest on Yugra). Like I've said before, this guy is the real deal. I think he will be one of the best defenseman in the whole tournament. I can't find a weakness on him (maybe short by a few inches?).


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11-27-2012, 06:14 PM
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Guess who had the most ice time today for Yugra?

-Kirill Dyakov : 22 minutes 1 A, and remains a + 2 on the season. Like I've said before, this guy is the real deal. I think he will be one of the best defenseman in the whole tournament. I can't find a weakness on him (maybe short by a few inches?).
I've noticed his solid game as well. Let's hope he keeps it up through December

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11-28-2012, 04:03 PM
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Guess who had the most ice time today for Yugra?

-Kirill Dyakov : 22 minutes 1 A, and remains a + 4 on the season (highest on Yugra). Like I've said before, this guy is the real deal. I think he will be one of the best defenseman in the whole tournament. I can't find a weakness on him (maybe short by a few inches?).
He looked really good in the SSS. Excellent skater and puckhandler, but also tough and physical, even though he's not that big. Dyakov, Mironov and a much improved Naumenkov look to be the mainstays of the defense.

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I was particularly impressed by Naumenkov in the SSS. The Russians always have plenty of flash, but you need a bruiser too, and this guy knows how to play the physical game. As well, he led the series with a +8. Seemed pretty solid back there every game.

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11-29-2012, 06:05 AM
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I was particularly impressed by Naumenkov in the SSS. The Russians always have plenty of flash, but you need a bruiser too, and this guy knows how to play the physical game. As well, he led the series with a +8. Seemed pretty solid back there every game.
Naumenkov was really good, but what about Zadorov? the guy is the wall on D!

too bad he called up Vasilevskiy (D-man) - the guy is a disaster on skates.

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11-29-2012, 06:06 AM
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on a good note: Kucherov and Slepyshev got an invite to the camp, as well as rapidly progressing Tryamkin. Too bed he never gave a chance to Osnovin, but next year he'll be there.

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11-29-2012, 08:48 AM
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besides Vasilevskiy - I have questions on Kapustin (really didn't like his game at SSS, he did look decent in some games in summer series though), Zharkov (why Zharkov and not Zykov???), Romantsev hasn't played at the SSS and has poor stats.

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11-29-2012, 09:17 AM
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11-29-2012, 10:15 AM
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I'm gonna rate their decisions on the roster,just for fun

Goalkeepers - All good here, easy decisions
Ustinskiy Igor
Andrey Makarov
Andrei Vasilevski

Defenders - Good overall, though I would rather take Tryamkin, Koledov or Dyblenko over Vasilevski for final cut
Tryamkin Nikita - 4/5
Dyblenko Jaroslav - 4/5
Naumenkov Michael - 5/5
Nikita Nesterov - 5/5
Artem Sergeev - 5/5
Alex Vasilevsky - 3/5
Yarullin Albert - 4.5/5
Andrei Mironov - 5/5
Diakov Cyril - 5/5
Paul Koledov - 3.5/5
Zadorov Nikita - 5/5 Great choice to invite


Forwards
Yaroslav Kosov - 5/5 obvious lock
Nail Yakupov - 5/5 same
Schoenfeld Anton - 3.5/5 hmm.. not sure about him
Tkachev Vladimir -4/5 Maybe
Khokhlachev Alexander - 5/5 Like what I saw in SSS
Slepyshev Anton - 5/5 Of course
Shalunov Maxim - 5/5 Probably best player in SSS
Eugene Moser - 3/5 Not sure about him
Zlobin Anton - 4/5 Not 100% to me, but he is ok
Sigarev Andrei - 5/5
Mikhail Grigorenko - 5/5
Nikita Kucherov - 100/5 Oh hell yes! Finally
Kapustin Kirill - 4.5/5 Hopefully he can look better on big ice
Romantsev Daniel - 3/5 Good 2-way center, but not sure if he is better than others
Daniil Zharkov - 3/5 Not sure if he would be a better choice than others
Bogdan Yakimov - 2.5/5 He's OK, but IMO his lack of speed will hurt the team
Nichushkin Valery - 5/5!! Nice, no question after his KHL Debut this guy is HOT HOT HOT

Overall it's a good roster that we can live with, especially now that Kucherov got called up. Lets see if he makes the team.

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11-29-2012, 10:51 AM
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I'm gonna rate their decisions on the roster,just for fun

Goalkeepers - All good here, easy decisions
Ustinskiy Igor
Andrey Makarov
Andrei Vasilevski

Defenders - Good overall, though I would rather take Tryamkin, Koledov or Dyblenko over Vasilevski for final cut
Tryamkin Nikita - 4/5
Dyblenko Jaroslav - 4/5
Naumenkov Michael - 5/5
Nikita Nesterov - 5/5
Artem Sergeev - 5/5
Alex Vasilevsky - 3/5
Yarullin Albert - 4.5/5
Andrei Mironov - 5/5
Diakov Cyril - 5/5
Paul Koledov - 3.5/5
Zadorov Nikita - 5/5 Great choice to invite


Forwards
Yaroslav Kosov - 5/5 obvious lock
Nail Yakupov - 5/5 same
Schoenfeld Anton - 3.5/5 hmm.. not sure about him
Tkachev Vladimir -4/5 Maybe
Khokhlachev Alexander - 5/5 Like what I saw in SSS
Slepyshev Anton - 5/5 Of course
Shalunov Maxim - 5/5 Probably best player in SSS
Eugene Moser - 3/5 Not sure about him
Zlobin Anton - 4/5 Not 100% to me, but he is ok
Sigarev Andrei - 5/5
Mikhail Grigorenko - 5/5
Nikita Kucherov - 100/5 Oh hell yes! Finally
Kapustin Kirill - 4.5/5 Hopefully he can look better on big ice
Romantsev Daniel - 3/5 Good 2-way center, but not sure if he is better than others
Daniil Zharkov - 3/5 Not sure if he would be a better choice than others
Bogdan Yakimov - 2.5/5 He's OK, but IMO his lack of speed will hurt the team
Nichushkin Valery - 5/5!! Nice, no question after his KHL Debut this guy is HOT HOT HOT

Overall it's a good roster that we can live with, especially now that Kucherov got called up. Lets see if he makes the team.
What's your trouble with Germans?

Both Moser and Schönfeld are clear cut candidates. Not the biggest guys, but skilled.

Zlobin is obviously to ride shotgun with Grigorenko hopefully with a healthy Kucherov on the line too.

Yakimov is the big guy. I doesn't hurt to have one.

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11-29-2012, 11:01 AM
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What's your trouble with Germans?

Both Moser and Schönfeld are clear cut candidates. Not the biggest guys, but skilled.

Zlobin is obviously to ride shotgun with Grigorenko hopefully with a healthy Kucherov on the line too.

Yakimov is the big guy. I doesn't hurt to have one.
Hehe, Germans on the Russian hockey team... they don't have a sense of humour to get by on the Russian team , and then there is the leder hosen that they try to wear during the games... joking of course

just not convinced by them, also I just noticed no Zhafyarov invited.

This just in, Shenfeld is the first to arrive at the camp:

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11-29-2012, 12:13 PM
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I know that he is probably a lock to make the team, but Nesterov did not play very well during the SSS imo. He made a number of mistakes.

Overall, there is a lot of talent on this team. Goaltending and Offense should certainly be considered strengths of this team.

There are no D-men of Orlov's caliber, but overall there is more depth on the blueline then in most years.

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I know that he is probably a lock to make the team, but Nesterov did not play very well during the SSS imo. He made a number of mistakes.

Overall, there is a lot of talent on this team. Goaltending and Offense should certainly be considered strengths of this team.

There are no D-men of Orlov's caliber, but overall there is more depth then in most years.
yes, I agree on Nesterov, didn't impress at all, but I give him benefit of the doubt as the games were played on smaller rinks and for an offnesive d-man it's a little more complicated to adjust the timing of jumping up on the play.

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Yakimov is the big guy. I doesn't hurt to have one.
This team don't have a problem with big guys

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Zlobin is an outstanding player and should be there. Much, much better than Kapustin.

I'd like to see a QMJHL line with Z, Grigs and Kucherov.

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A bit surprised Kadeykin is not well liked.

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A bit surprised Kadeykin is not well liked.
him and Shmelev never really won the NT coache's hearts

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after seeing the camp invites how does this forward lineup look? what would you change and where?

Shalunov Sigarev Yakupov

sigarev was the best overall in the summer and sss. shalunov was probably the best in sss and yakupov is well yakupov

Slepyshev griggs kucherov

i would have put zlobin there but i dont see how slepyshev isnt a top 6 correct me if im wrong and then the grigorenko kucherov connection is back

zlobin koko nichuskin
this could be a tricky line to deal with imo

zharkov yakimov kosov
big skilled line would be tough to deal with i know its big ice but there is enough speed in the first 3 lines i figured a big line that could put some pressure on the other teams would be fitting maybe not?
close shenfeld, mozer- good skilled i just dont know where they would fit in? kapustin-had a hat trick in one of the summer games but he did absolutely nothing for me in the sss. tkachev-if there was a 13th forward i would slot him in there because he is skilled enough to fill in if any of the centres were struggling but russia usually goes 12-8. what do you think? what would you do?

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after seeing the camp invites how does this forward lineup look? what would you change and where?

Shalunov Sigarev Yakupov

sigarev was the best overall in the summer and sss. shalunov was probably the best in sss and yakupov is well yakupov

Slepyshev griggs kucherov

i would have put zlobin there but i dont see how slepyshev isnt a top 6 correct me if im wrong and then the grigorenko kucherov connection is back

zlobin koko nichuskin
this could be a tricky line to deal with imo

zharkov yakimov kosov
big skilled line would be tough to deal with i know its big ice but there is enough speed in the first 3 lines i figured a big line that could put some pressure on the other teams would be fitting maybe not?
close shenfeld, mozer- good skilled i just dont know where they would fit in? kapustin-had a hat trick in one of the summer games but he did absolutely nothing for me in the sss. tkachev-if there was a 13th forward i would slot him in there because he is skilled enough to fill in if any of the centres were struggling but russia usually goes 12-8. what do you think? what would you do?
Tkachev will be on the team, he's a great PK guy, who's also a SHG threat, so willl be Kapustin - Varnakov likes him (I don't). Not sure that both: Slepyshev and Kucherov make it, I think Varnakov won't risk taking two brittle players (especially knowing that Russia usually goes with 8 d-men). I am afraid that he called up Kucherov to camp to ease the pressure of not taking him.

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Tkachev will be on the team, he's a great PK guy, who's also a SHG threat, so willl be Kapustin - Varnakov likes him (I don't). Not sure that both: Slepyshev and Kucherov make it, I think Varnakov won't risk taking two brittle players (especially knowing that Russia usually goes with 8 d-men). I am afraid that he called up Kucherov to camp to ease the pressure of not taking him.
so Tkachev in place of yakimov? And as for kapustin... would he fit in on the team over zharkov? That way slepyshev and kucherov would each have a spot...
4th line kapustin tkachev kosov....... 4 scoring lines why not

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so Tkachev in place of yakimov? And as for kapustin... would he fit in on the team over zharkov? That way slepyshev and kucherov would each have a spot...
4th line kapustin tkachev kosov....... 4 scoring lines why not
let's just wait and see.

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so Tkachev in place of yakimov? And as for kapustin... would he fit in on the team over zharkov? That way slepyshev and kucherov would each have a spot...
4th line kapustin tkachev kosov....... 4 scoring lines why not
I don't see any logic behind having Kosov on the 4th line. He is one of the most effective players on the team at bringing the puck into the zone and physical play, why limit him to the 4th.

My guess for lines would be

Slepyshev-Sigarev-Yakupov
Zlobin-Grigorenko-Kucherov
Kosov-Khokhlochev-Shalunov *Shalunov plays a lot better at his natural RW
Kapustin-Tkachev-Nichushkin

cska is right, Kucherov maybe just a pr move, hopefully he'll go all out and change Varnakov's mind.

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Hopefully Yakimov doesnt make it. Theres better guys than him. It has been mentioned a lot of times the guy cant skate.
Bragin was getting it right to the last man but i expect Varnakov to have 1-2 forwards/defencemen with ?
Prokhorkin found himself in same situation Kabanov was last year. Bragin said in an interview that he doesnt know what Kabanov is up to-moving to Sweden (rumors), to me it sounded more like an excuse, he just didnt want him in the team. Prokhorkin is not playing, same as Kabanov he would be an improvement over 1-2 4th line guys but the difference is minimal, a hot, top shape Prokhorkin would be a diff story but hes nowhere close.
Overall i see a lot of depth in this team, defence looks unreal.

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on a good note: Kucherov and Slepyshev got an invite to the camp, as well as rapidly progressing Tryamkin. Too bed he never gave a chance to Osnovin, but next year he'll be there.
That's good news. Kucherov, in addition to his own merits, always clicked really well with Grigorenko. I could see a line of Grigorenko-Kucherov-Zlobin really clicking. In the SSS, Khoklachev-Yakupov-Sigarev were really flying all over the place creating great chances. Some potent line combinations are starting to take shape.

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