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11-29-2012, 09:55 AM
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In a few years from now, wen the new CBA will expire and JJ will lead the NHL to a new CBA. One with the players contracts will no longer be guaranteed...
JJ will be recognized as the driving force that saved the NHL.
JJ, the conquering hero. Someday he will have a statue right next to Orr. Cant wait.

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11-29-2012, 10:02 AM
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It’s obvious that Haggs didn’t write the article. He linked the article on his Twitter account.

This is an article Haggerty wrote later in the day.

http://www.csnne.com/hockey-boston-b...61&feedID=3352
I had to stop reading that article when Haggerty started saying what Jacobs was thinking as if he knew it was a fact.

That is the 2nd article by Haggerty in 2 days that doesn't even say he had a source for anything and states what he presumes people are thinking as absolute fact. That is some bad reporting right there.

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11-29-2012, 10:43 AM
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As a Foxborough resident, I can tell you that Bob Kraft is hardly the perfectly kindly, benevolent angel many in New England paint him to be. For sure, he is generous philanthropically, but there is a cost to it. He wants to have his empire in town, and he doesn't like it when people tell him, "no." Then, he and his minions do what they can to circumvent any little obstacles like ordinances and laws to get their way. I can tell you the rejection of his casino was a huge blow to his expectations, and he has been working diligently and aggressively to recoup that intended revenue.

Is he a nicer, more involved man than Jacobs? Sure, but don't canonize him, just yet.

To paraphrase an earlier post - not too many people become billionaires by being good citizens.

All this being said, Bob Kraft is 1000 times a better owner and steward of his sport, league and franchise than Jacobs could ever hope to be.

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11-29-2012, 11:52 AM
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Didn't Bob Kraft's wife's family have the money
That's the impression I've been under. His wife was part of the Hiatt family, so he married into the dough.

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11-29-2012, 11:54 AM
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Poorly written articles aside, does anyone really think that Jacobs isn't one of the driving forces of this current lockout? He was also behind the last one too. How many times does it have to quack before you call it a duck?

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11-29-2012, 12:44 PM
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I really wish Jacobs would sell the Bruins to the Wilpons so you could see how it could be around here.

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11-29-2012, 01:21 PM
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I want this lockout to end so I can see hockey again. Also the fallout from everything that is being said should be fun too.

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I really wish Jacobs would sell the Bruins to the Wilpons so you could see how it could be around here.
Agreed. There are MANY MANY worse owners than Jacobs. At least Jacobs is solvent and is in no danger of that changing.

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11-29-2012, 09:50 PM
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Didn't Bob Kraft's wife's family have the money
Yes. Her dad sold Rand-Whitney to him after he a d Myra got married.

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11-30-2012, 06:26 AM
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I really wish Jacobs would sell the Bruins to the Wilpons so you could see how it could be around here.
Agreed or..

..Wonder if Bruce McNall still collects coins? Or is Boots Del Biaggio outta the slammer yet

One of those "careful what ya wish for" situations for sure

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11-30-2012, 08:25 AM
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Bob Kraft gets a lot of mileage out of the fact that he picked the right head coach, who happened to pick the right quarterback.

The author should ask fans of Kraft's other team what they think of him. I think at one point, the Revolution spent six straight years with the lowest payroll in MLS. While other teams were out signing guys like Beckham and Henry, Bob Kraft's team was signing guys who washed out of the German Second Division.

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11-30-2012, 08:38 AM
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Bob Kraft gets a lot of mileage out of the fact that he picked the right head coach, who happened to pick the right quarterback.

The author should ask fans of Kraft's other team what they think of him. I think at one point, the Revolution spent six straight years with the lowest payroll in MLS. While other teams were out signing guys like Beckham and Henry, Bob Kraft's team was signing guys who washed out of the German Second Division.
Take a look at what that franchise was from it's inception up until the day Kraft bought it, then take a look at what it's become since.

I'm not a big soccer guy, but haven't the Revolution been to the championship game 4 or 5 times on the 2000's?

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11-30-2012, 09:29 AM
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The Revs are a decent MLS franchise that had a good run a few years ago. They haven't been lucky with having talent come out right, and haven't gone nuts offering ridiculous deals for foreign players. Sounds very like how the Patriots have been run lately, except the Patriots have Brady, and as good as Matt Reis is, he's no Tom Brady.

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The Revs are a decent MLS franchise that had a good run a few years ago. They haven't been lucky with having talent come out right, and haven't gone nuts offering ridiculous deals for foreign players. Sounds very like how the Patriots have been run lately, except the Patriots have Brady, and as good as Matt Reis is, he's no Tom Brady.
My point was, they haven't been some dismal failure. Also, didn't Kraft bring the team into existance in the first place?

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I wouldn't know. I barely pay any attention at all to MLS. From what I have seen I agree completely that the Revs are not some joke franchise. That said, the league has gotten better and the Revs haven't been doing a lot that I'd ever noticed to follow suit. The paradigm is changing as MLS establishes itself, maybe sometime a decade from now we'll all be talking about both of Bob Kraft's teams.

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I really wish Jacobs would sell the Bruins to the Wilpons so you could see how it could be around here.
Yeah Jacobs is great. Let's forget the last 30 years when he put on a mask and robbed us blind. Let's just focus only on the last 6-7 years.

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The Revs are a decent MLS franchise that had a good run a few years ago. They haven't been lucky with having talent come out right, and haven't gone nuts offering ridiculous deals for foreign players. Sounds very like how the Patriots have been run lately, except the Patriots have Brady, and as good as Matt Reis is, he's no Tom Brady.
No, the Revs are an awful MLS franchise that lucked out by drafting an incredible run of franchise-altering players through the draft that's unlikely to be repeated any time soon. Seriously, what are the odds that any MLS team drafts the likes of Taylor Twellman, Shalrie Joseph, Pat Noonan, Michael Parkhurst, and Clint Dempsey in quick succession again?

They had all that, and they still didn't win an MLS Cup. Hell, the Krafts didn't even bother to show up to one of the MLS Cup finals.

They play in a stadium that doesn't suit their needs.

They haven't signed an impact foreign player (...without league assistance) in years.

They're consistently among the worst teams in MLS in attendance.

They routinely do stupid things like carrying three and four players less than they're allowed to have on their roster during the season.

They once got a special "allocation" of money from the league following the sale of Daniel Hernandez to a Mexican club that they were supposed to use to sign a replacement. They sat on that money for so long, that they eventually used it to sign Hernandez again after he played two seasons for Necaxa.

The first "Designated Player" they signed in their history lasted 12 games before they waived him. He was then signed by a team in Chile where he scored 16 goals in 33 games and got called up to the Argentinian National Team.

They're incompetent, they're cheap, and they're poorly managed. Furthermore, other than replacing the head coach before last season, the same management group that's overseen the slow decay of the franchise is still in largely in place.

Pats fans better hope the Revs are not a reflection of the post-Bellichick Patriots.

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In a few years from now, wen the new CBA will expire and JJ will lead the NHL to a new CBA. One with the players contracts will no longer be guaranteed...
JJ will be recognized as the driving force that saved the NHL.
I hope you're right.. if you are.. i'll apologize about the man.. Just don't see it happening.

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I find it a little funny that Jacobs is being painted as evil while Kraft is an Angel but the NHL isn't even trying to get a deal as good as the NHL has.

Where is the article about how NHL players are greedier that any othe major league players?
Just asking, but.. are you serious?

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