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11-29-2012, 11:57 PM
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I think he's one of the "hardliner owners" (re: current NHL labor dispute); so one shouldn't really be surprised by this.
A Bruins reporter penned him as much worse yesterday:

http://www.csnne.com/11/28/12/Hagger...1&feedID=10428

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11-30-2012, 11:23 AM
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Actually it's more Greedy and Stupid owners vs Greedy players.
Actually it's more Greedy and Stupid owners vs Greedy and Stupid players. Toews and Barch are the ones that stick out

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11-30-2012, 11:45 AM
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Actually it's more Greedy and Stupid owners vs Greedy and Stupid players. Toews and Barch are the ones that stick out
Overall I'd say the Owners are more stupid than the players in this deal.

Honestly the players need to let go of the "make whole" clause (or whatever they are calling it now) and the owners need to let go of trying to take away the players contracting rights. Once those two things happen there will be a deal. If neither side is willing to move off of those positions then the stalemate will continue.

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11-30-2012, 02:19 PM
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Good on the Bruins players for paying the tax though...they gained a litle respect from me. But only a little...
Doubt they had a choice whether to pay it or not. You either pay the tax or don't get the ring. No respect gained from me.

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11-30-2012, 02:20 PM
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Doubt they had a choice whether to pay it or not. You either pay the tax or don't get the ring. No respect gained from me.
They paid it for the staff that couldn't afford it, they didn't have to do it.

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11-30-2012, 02:22 PM
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They paid it for the staff that couldn't afford it, they didn't have to do it.
As if it made a dent in their pockets. Nice of them to do that though.

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BRB *Books ticket to New Zealand to see this live*

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11-30-2012, 11:57 PM
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A Bruins reporter penned him as much worse yesterday:

http://www.csnne.com/11/28/12/Hagger...1&feedID=10428
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Winnipeg Jets representation at a recent NHL Board of Governors meeting piped up to say it was opposed to engaging in a long, bloody lockout sure to stymie their franchise’s momentum and hurt the game of hockey.

It wasn’t Winnipeg owner Mark Chipman, but rather one of the alternate governors representing the Jets.

Bruins Principal Owner and Chairman of the Board of Governors Jeremy Jacobs answered by reprimanding the Winnipeg representative as one of the “new kids on the block” and informed him that he would know when he was allowed to speak in the NHL board room.
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The NHLPA members and hockey fans alike are waylaying NHL commissioner Gary Bettman for instituting the work stoppage. But at the end of the day Bettman is simply the messenger for the 30 NHL owners. Jacobs and his fellow owners are the reason the NHL can’t function without a war between every new Collective Bargaining Agreement. They are the reason hockey is a mismanaged mess.
It's getting harder and harder for people to justify being on the owner's side.

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It's getting harder and harder for people to justify being on the owner's side.
A bit hard to side with the players too, with them overthrowing Kelly for Fehr. Well, given their antics they should actually be married.

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12-01-2012, 01:51 AM
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12-02-2012, 01:56 PM
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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins' shoulder isn't "injured" per se but hasn't felt quite right this season in AHL. So he's back in EDM for evaluation.
RNH already having shoulder problems? Is he the second coming of Ales Hemsky? But seriously...

RNH will still apparently play for Team Canada at the WJHC.

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12-04-2012, 02:46 PM
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Something weird going on with Ryan Nugent-Hopkins as Oilers say they can't comment on him at this time. Status very unclear for World Jrs
Sucks for the WJ team! Something's wrong with that shoulder....

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Sucks for the WJ team! Something's wrong with that shoulder....
Oreo?


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Oreo?

god I forgot how god awful Mark Lee & Weekes are...

I think it was this though


Such an innocent play can have a huge impact.

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12-04-2012, 03:18 PM
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Oreo?

Anyone missing the silky sweet duo of Mark Lee and Kevin Weekes yet? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

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12-04-2012, 03:28 PM
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Watching that clip makes me miss hockey (and Lappy) so much.

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12-04-2012, 03:48 PM
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I know it was a freak injury, but this is why you wait until players develop physically. RNH has a lot of growing left to do, he shouldn't be in the NHL — no matter how skilled he is.

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Watching that clip makes me miss hockey (and Lappy) so much.
Hell it makes me miss Oreo.

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12-04-2012, 04:53 PM
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I know it was a freak injury, but this is why you wait until players develop physically. RNH has a lot of growing left to do, he shouldn't be in the NHL — no matter how skilled he is.
Completely agree. At least Landeskog has a thick enough build that he can deal with some physical punishment, RNH is build like a ballet dancer.

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12-04-2012, 06:05 PM
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RNH already have shoulder problems, hope the Oilers are happy they stuck a first round pick in the NHL that is only skin and bones still. Good for us (Canucks) I guess, sad to see him having these problems already however.

Will always believe the Oilers will lose one of RNH, or Hall before they get into their prime of dominating the league.

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12-04-2012, 06:21 PM
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I know it was a freak injury, but this is why you wait until players develop physically. RNH has a lot of growing left to do, he shouldn't be in the NHL — no matter how skilled he is.
And it wastes years of his ELC by keeping him in the NHL before you`re even ready to contend.

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12-04-2012, 06:30 PM
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I'm not sure I buy the argument re: his physical immaturity. He's scrawny, but so is Raymond and he's generally held up to the rigors of NHL hockey.

I agree with the premise that it's never a bad thing to let a guy bulk up before sticking him in the show, but developmentally it was best for him- he showed he can hack it.
You'll all point to his shoulder as evidence to the contrary but that injury was caused by a rut in the ice; could have happened anywhere.

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12-04-2012, 06:38 PM
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I'm not sure I buy the argument re: his physical immaturity. He's scrawny, but so is Raymond and he's generally held up to the rigors of NHL hockey.

I agree with the premise that it's never a bad thing to let a guy bulk up before sticking him in the show, but developmentally it was best for him- he showed he can hack it.
You'll all point to his shoulder as evidence to the contrary but that injury was caused by a rut in the ice; could have happened anywhere.
Pretty hard to hit Mason Raymond when he is constantly on his face.

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12-04-2012, 07:16 PM
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Ahhh, my mistake. I thought we were going to have a legitimate discussion.

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12-04-2012, 08:27 PM
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I'm not sure I buy the argument re: his physical immaturity. He's scrawny, but so is Raymond and he's generally held up to the rigors of NHL hockey.

I agree with the premise that it's never a bad thing to let a guy bulk up before sticking him in the show, but developmentally it was best for him- he showed he can hack it.
You'll all point to his shoulder as evidence to the contrary but that injury was caused by a rut in the ice; could have happened anywhere.
The Canuck franchise's hopes have never been hung on Mason Raymond, he had also had some AHL seasoning and joined the Canucks at the age of 21 whereas RNH was only 18. The Oilers didn't have any need to rush him, but they did regardless.

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