No, Team Canada won. Luongo was obviously playing for the other team with the way he was playing, so he really should have gotten only a silver. Canada was lucky to win despite such atrocious goaltending.
No, Team Canada won. Luongo was obviously playing for the other team with the way he was playing, so he really should have gotten only a silver. Canada was lucky to win despite such atrocious goaltending.
And no, I'm not serious. Just bitter.
Luongo's such a terrible goalie guys. He needed Canada to score goals for him to win. Pfftt Cam Ward doesn't need anyone to score for him. And those games where he let in 5 goals, it was the usher in section 103's fault.
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Luongo's such a terrible goalie guys. He needed Canada to score goals for him to win. Pfftt Cam Ward doesn't need anyone to score for him. And those games where he let in 5 goals, it was the usher in section 103's fault.
Of course Ward doesn't need anyone to score for him:
Look at that shot. Full rink, right between the pipes. Ward can snipe with the best of them.
Luongo will probably make it, but let's not pretend he put up some kind of a monster performance back in 2010. he was decent at best. there's no massive difference between him and Ward. at this point in time Price/Luongo/Ward seems like the trio to go with.
Luongo will probably make it, but let's not pretend he put up some kind of a monster performance back in 2010. he was decent at best. there's no massive difference between him and Ward. at this point in time Price/Luongo/Ward seems like the trio to go with.
Ward chokes in big international games whereas Luongo hasn't lost. There is a huge difference. And with Brodeur in net Canada was looking like they would be massive failures. Luongo came in, held the fort and won.
Ward chokes in big international games whereas Luongo hasn't lost. There is a huge difference. And with Brodeur in net Canada was looking like they would be massive failures. Luongo came in, held the fort and won.
that's homer talk. held the fort as in getting a free ride to the gold medal? I don't remember him making any game winning saves against Slovakia or USA. all this choking thing is overrated in here anyway. there's not a huge difference between Luongo and Ward whatsoever.
Your clear bias is disgusting. Why not just come out and say you have a personal hatred for Luongo instead of trying to disguise it with stupid illogic?
I'm not trying to disguise anything. Nothing personal against the guy, just pointing out that he's brutal in high pressure situations.
What is "illogic" about giving 6 examples of high pressure games where he has failed in grand fashion?
We got very lucky in 2010, he couldn't squeeze a routine shot with less than 2 minutes to play, which resulted in the tying goal. Fortunately we won in overtime, but the game should have never made it there in the first place.
Mike Babcock actually went on the record saying something along the lines of "He probably should have squeezed it" or something like that, when asked about that play.
Your clear bias is disgusting. Why not just come out and say you have a personal hatred for Luongo instead of trying to disguise it with stupid illogic?
So posting videos showing Luongo's struggles is a disgusting clear bias, but posting videos showing Ward's struggles is acceptable. Seriously?
So posting videos showing Luongo's struggles is a disgusting clear bias, but posting videos showing Ward's struggles is acceptable. Seriously?
Posting a game where Luongo was stellar and claiming that was Luongo struggling is pure ********. And blaming Luongo for the Boston series where the Canucks offered ZERO offensive support whatsoever, and Luongo's entire defense was injured is just stupid. Sure, fine ill admit, if all of Team Canada's defense is badly injured with torn shoulders, pulled groins, and cracked ribs, and if Canada decides to only score 1 goal per game, we could be in trouble. But even with that Luongo still won 2 games 1-0.
The bias is sickening. These events are not comparable to Ward letting in softy after softy in a gold medal game, or letting in soft goals blowing a lead against Slovakia in a QF game.
The bias is sickening. These events are not comparable to Ward letting in softy after softy in a gold medal game, or letting in soft goals blowing a lead against Slovakia in a QF game.
Like I said in the previous topic, you seem to love to criticize a goalie (whether it's Ward, Miller, or Lundqvist, all three which you have claimed are inferior to Luongo at some point) on something ridiculous. Then when it's pointed out your ridiculous criticism corresponds to Luongo as well, you spend your time attempting to justifty why it's not the same at all.
Why not just make it simple from the very beginning and preface every criticism you level at another goalie with: "Of course, Luongo is exempt from these criticism...because I said so..."
that's homer talk. held the fort as in getting a free ride to the gold medal? I don't remember him making any game winning saves against Slovakia or USA. all this choking thing is overrated in here anyway. there's not a huge difference between Luongo and Ward whatsoever.
Selective memory? No biggie.
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I'm not trying to disguise anything. Nothing personal against the guy, just pointing out that he's brutal in high pressure situations.
What is "illogic" about giving 6 examples of high pressure games where he has failed in grand fashion?
We got very lucky in 2010, he couldn't squeeze a routine shot with less than 2 minutes to play, which resulted in the tying goal. Fortunately we won in overtime, but the game should have never made it there in the first place.
Mike Babcock actually went on the record saying something along the lines of "He probably should have squeezed it" or something like that, when asked about that play.
Its not like Canada had a chance to clear the puck after that. Weber had a weak backhand attempt & then Getz easily gets tied up.... I also guess it had NOTHING to do with Niedermayer & Weber allowing 2 American forwards to go 2-0 on Luongo a couple feet outside the blue paint or anything.... just blame it ALL on Luongo
that's a real weird sequence of events. it didn't seem to me that the puck would have hit the net anyway. he kind of shoot the puck back into Luongo, but I can't really see him making a save there, actually even touching the puck. looked good on real time, looked really weird on replay.
edit: and btw, what about those slovakian goals, especially the awful first one he let in? talking about getting really selective here...
that's a real weird sequence of events. it didn't seem to me that the puck would have hit the net anyway. he kind of shoot the puck back into Luongo, but I can't really see him making a save there, actually even touching the puck. looked good on real time, looked really weird on replay.
edit: and btw, what about those slovakian goals, especially the awful first one he let in? talking about getting really selective here...
There's pretty broad consensus that Luongo did in fact make that save. Arguing that the shooter may have misplaced his shot is irrelevant. He made a (very possibly) game-saving save. You claimed he didn't make any.
How on earth am I being selective? You said
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"I don't remember him making any game winning saves against Slovakia"
... so I showed you a (likely) game winning save against Slovakia... Nowhere did we discuss other aspects of that game. So no, don't "talk about selective".
There's pretty broad consensus that Luongo did in fact make that save. Arguing that the shooter may have misplaced his shot is irrelevant. He made a (very possibly) game-saving save. You claimed he didn't make any.
How on earth am I being selective? You said ... so I showed you a (likely) game winning save against Slovakia... Nowhere did we discuss other aspects of that game. So no, don't "talk about selective".
now you're arguing semantics with me.
let's say he made a game winning save, though a shot that doesn't go on net shouldn't even be considered a shot to begin with. still, the point that he let in a first awful goal on his short side from an impossible angle and coughed up a weak shot on the second one shouldn't be avoided.
the hole starting point was that Luongo got a free ride as he wasn't anything special in Vancouver, in my opinion. I stand by that.
I'm no Luongo hater either, but you Nucks fans are making it hard not to dislike him.
edit: btw, I voted for Luongo here, and I'm a Pens fan.
Luongo, although I'd prefer to give the third spot to a young up-and-coming goalie to give them some experience and pave the way for 2018 and beyond (kind of like how Hockey Canada always likes to look to players with prior international experience). Problem is that no goalie has really presented themselves as that yet for Canada. Hopefully it'll happen by 2014.
There's pretty broad consensus that Luongo did in fact make that save. Arguing that the shooter may have misplaced his shot is irrelevant. He made a (very possibly) game-saving save. You claimed he didn't make any.
It was a "game saving" save because he let Slovakia back in the game with a horrid first goal and a questionable second goal.
The game should have been 3-0 or 3-1 at that point with legitimate Olympic goaltending.
Luongo will be starter in Sochi unless he completely sucks ass next season. Dunno why he's being listed as a 3rd. Made for a good chuckle, though. Thanks, HF.
The only one with Olympic experience, won Gold already, traveling across the continent to play a hockey tournament. He's going, he'll play.
Whoever the starter is, for his sake I hope he's able to shutout every team he plays. Apparently winning isn't enough for our fans now, you have to be perfect as well.
Whoever the starter is, for his sake I hope he's able to shutout every team he plays. Apparently winning isn't enough for our fans now, you have to be perfect as well.
winning shouldn't be a voucher for getting the starter position four years later. especially in Luongo's case who isn't exactly the elite kind these days.
winning shouldn't be a voucher for getting the starting position four years later. especially in Luongo's case who isn't exactly the elite kind these days.
But Cam Ward hasn't won anything in six years, and Carey Price hasn't won anything ever.
