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LW John Gaudreau - Boston College, HE (2011, 104th overall, Calgary)

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11-29-2012, 07:50 AM
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Its too tough to compare NCAA and CHL, I don't know why people do it.

Its like comparing a Bantam Major team to a Midget Minor team.

I would use this analogy. Both leagues have good players, but definitely more higher end in the CHL. Take one of the top 5/10 Bantam Major AAA teams in the USA. Half the team will end up playing somewhere higher up. Put them against a top 5/10 Midget Minor AA team. 1,2,3 kids from the team may go somewhere higher up.

THe midget minor team (NCAA) should win due to age, size, strength, depth, but the Bantam Major (CHL) team could play with them, and maybe win a few games. THe Bantam team will have more higher end kids, but the age difference is a factor. The Midget Minor team will definitely have a few kids go higher up, but most of the team are just good solid hockey players.

The top Bantam Major kids could do really well against Midget Minors, and the top Midget Minors would destroy Bantam Major.

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11-29-2012, 08:06 AM
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B) The CIS is nowhere comparable to either league. How many NHLers have been even played in the CIS? I can think of one. Joel Ward. Joel Ward has one of the coolest paths to the NHL ever. Look it up.
The calibre of CIS is very close to NCAA, go look at the preseason matchups between the teams. NCAA is a bit better mostly due to getting NHL draft picks out of USHL or USNDP. CIS is mostly kids who have moved on from the NHL dream to get an education, but still among the best CHL(mostly graduation 20 year olds) and Jr.A players.

There is a pretty long list that have played in the NHL like Randy Gregg, Ridley, Rucchin, Darche, Shelley, Stock, Ward, St.Denis, Boyce plus some older ones like Vilgrain, Bourgeois etc

http://www.coppernblue.com/2011/9/4/...lized-scouting

Lots of Euro leagues have mostly guys that won't ever play an NHL game and their teams would be NCAA teams like the Swiss, German and Swedish leagues.

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11-29-2012, 09:16 AM
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The calibre of CIS is very close to NCAA, go look at the preseason matchups between the teams. NCAA is a bit better mostly due to getting NHL draft picks out of USHL or USNDP. CIS is mostly kids who have moved on from the NHL dream to get an education, but still among the best CHL(mostly graduation 20 year olds) and Jr.A players.

There is a pretty long list that have played in the NHL like Randy Gregg, Ridley, Rucchin, Darche, Shelley, Stock, Ward, St.Denis, Boyce plus some older ones like Vilgrain, Bourgeois etc

http://www.coppernblue.com/2011/9/4/...lized-scouting

Lots of Euro leagues have mostly guys that won't ever play an NHL game and their teams would be NCAA teams like the Swiss, German and Swedish leagues.
I wouldn't use pre-season games to suggest that the CIS is "very close" to the NCAA.

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11-29-2012, 09:33 AM
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The calibre of CIS is very close to NCAA, go look at the preseason matchups between the teams. NCAA is a bit better mostly due to getting NHL draft picks out of USHL or USNDP. CIS is mostly kids who have moved on from the NHL dream to get an education, but still among the best CHL(mostly graduation 20 year olds) and Jr.A players.

There is a pretty long list that have played in the NHL like Randy Gregg, Ridley, Rucchin, Darche, Shelley, Stock, Ward, St.Denis, Boyce plus some older ones like Vilgrain, Bourgeois etc

http://www.coppernblue.com/2011/9/4/...lized-scouting

Lots of Euro leagues have mostly guys that won't ever play an NHL game and their teams would be NCAA teams like the Swiss, German and Swedish leagues.
The preseason is a terrible way to make a definitive statement about any team or league.

The 2009-2010 Chicago Blackhawks had a losing record in the preseason. They even lost to the Zurich Lions.

So is the NLA comparable to the NHL then? The Lions finished 6th in their league that year, but they beat the Stanley Cup champions.


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11-30-2012, 07:57 PM
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Gaudreau with a beauty assist. Stick tied up, under pressure, so he kicks the puck to a wide open winger! Amazing.

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11-30-2012, 07:59 PM
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Gaudreau with a beauty assist. Stick tied up, under pressure, so he kicks the puck to a wide open winger! Amazing.
Nice, do you got the game on TV? I'm with Shaw, they have Michigan on instead (B10 Network).

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Nice, do you got the game on TV? I'm with Shaw, they have Michigan on instead (B10 Network).
B10 should be Mich State and Ohio State

NBC Sports channel has the BU / BC game

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11-30-2012, 08:10 PM
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Nice, do you got the game on TV? I'm with Shaw, they have Michigan on instead (B10 Network).
Ya man. Hey at least you can keep us up to date with Matt Deblouw tonight!

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11-30-2012, 09:05 PM
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Johnny scores! Another 2 point night... 21 points in 12 games.


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11-30-2012, 09:46 PM
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Typo fixed. The kid is insane

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12-01-2012, 03:26 AM
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Real excited to watch him at the wjcs. Should be his coming out party.

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I dunno, I think the difference between the top CHL teams and NCAA teams is close.

I think it would be really cool to see a Memorical Cup Champion vs. NCAA Champion match. Would be really interesting to see how they stack up.
See a bunch of HE including beanpot, regular season games, and HE playoffs, and Charlie Coyle was better in junior than college; he was good but usually just another guy for BU

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12-01-2012, 06:58 PM
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Anyone have a stream for tonight's game by chance? It says it's on NBC so there must be one out there somewheres.

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Yes pm me too if you have a stream

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12-01-2012, 09:34 PM
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screwed out of 2 points tonight... 1 goal taken away.

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Big game next week Flames fans (and anyone else interested)

Gaudreau vs. Jankowski

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Another goal in the first period tonight 11 goals in 14 games.

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Gaudreau and Galchenyuk will be dynamite at the world juniors

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12-07-2012, 09:36 PM
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Finished the game with 1G 1A.

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this kid has some amazing skills, probably too small for the NHL, but here is hoping he transitions well to the pro game because he is damn fun to watch!

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this kid has some amazing skills, probably too small for the NHL, but here is hoping he transitions well to the pro game because he is damn fun to watch!
He has a decent shot at the NHL just because his instincts and skill level are off the charts.

He's a Hobey Baker contender in only his second year which is a huge accomplishment. And he's obviously having a nice World Juniors. It'll be interesting to follow what he does from this point.

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Weird question perhaps but does anyone know what kind of mouthguard he uses? The yellow ones he and Trouba wear are unreal.

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Weird question perhaps but does anyone know what kind of mouthguard he uses? The yellow ones he and Trouba wear are unreal.
It's just an orange peel

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Had a feeling the wjcs would be his coming out party. good to see him excelling at a high level.

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Would have loved to see what sort of numbers without Grimaldi sinking his line down.

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