Thought it deserved it's own thread, considering who was on it. Sorry, but I must be the one to start the ****-show. Now taking arguments on why Bonds/Clemens are not worthy of the Hall of Fame!
But wait, this is the Baseball Hall of Fame. Where such luminaries as Jim Rice have made it and Jack Morris will soon join him. Yet Mike Mussina won't. And for the next year or two, neither will one of the two greatest position players in baseball history or one of the 5 greatest pitchers in baseball history.
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I'm interested to see how many votes Kenny Lofton gets. I liked him as a player, he's probably not HoF material but I wonder if he gets enough love to stay on the ballot.
Looking over last years ballot. Tim Salmon(5), Bill Mueller(4), Brad Radke(2), Javy Lopez(1), and Eric Young(1) got votes.
Here's who'd I vote for: (voters can vote for as many as 10 players)
Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all belong in. Even if you're someone who believes steroids are magic pills, in an era where nearly everyone was on them, the greats still stood out and guys like Nook Logan still sucked.
Bonds and Clemens were on the HoF path even before they took "PEDs" too.
It's a shame Bagwell is getting shafted just because he played in that era. When he has never been tied to steroids. The idiotic voters just assume he was. :
(The balls being juiced during the steroid probably has more to do with inflated numbers in that era than "PEDs" did, but that's beating a dead horse around here at this point.)
I don't know about Sosa. He has an awfully weak case beyond his 600+ home runs. A career .343 OBP, only two seasons of 6+ WAR, and a career 128 OPS+? There are far worse players in the HOF, but Sosa is hardly in the same boat as Bonds and Clemens.
I think the voters will go with Bagwell, Biggio and Piazza. None of them were ever rumored to be on steroids and their numbers are HOF-worthy. Bonds, Clemens and Sosa will be punished by the voters for being on steroids for a notable portion of their careers. BOnds will get in next year though. HE was clear-cut hall of famer prior to using steroids in 1999.