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View Poll Results: Should the Oilers allow RNH to play in the WJHCs this year?
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12-03-2012, 12:28 PM
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exactly, poor results the past few years

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12-03-2012, 12:29 PM
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Does anyone remember what the 05 championship team looked like? Was the intent to put together the potential 06 olympic team?

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12-03-2012, 12:30 PM
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exactly, poor results the past few years
2012 is at the top.

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12-03-2012, 12:47 PM
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Exactly my point. 5 years without a gold. 2 without even playing in the gold medal game

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12-03-2012, 12:53 PM
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Exactly my point. 5 years without a gold. 2 without even playing in the gold medal game
It's three without a gold, 1 without a gold medal game.

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12-03-2012, 12:53 PM
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Exactly my point. 5 years without a gold. 2 without even playing in the gold medal game
Yep before they won gold 5 years in a row and then have now missed the last 3.

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12-03-2012, 01:02 PM
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I think it's more like;

It's good for hockey canada as they can add a NHLer to their roster

It's good for the fans as they get to watch a better team


The only upside to this for RNH is that Hockey Canada might remember this when it comes to making the Olympic squad. As for RNH's career, this toruney does nothing for him.

And to be honest at this point I like him to continue playing with his NHL teammates in OKC.
It's good for RNH himself. I'm pretty sure that he wants to experience the WJC atmosphere playing for his home country, he has never had a chance to do this.
Him missing some games in OKC isn't going to do much to hurt his development.
I wonder if being in the AHL the whole season will do anything for his development either.

He's going to get back in plenty of time for the playoff push so how in the world is him representing his country at the WJC going to hurt his development? It might not help further his development but it will be a great experience for him, something that he'll never forget while playing some AHL games during the dog days of the regular season will be easily forgettable.

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12-03-2012, 01:09 PM
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It's good for RNH himself. I'm pretty sure that he wants to experience the WJC atmosphere playing for his home country, he has never had a chance to do this.
Him missing some games in OKC isn't going to do much to hurt his development.
I wonder if being in the AHL the whole season will do anything for his development either.
He's going to get back in plenty of time for the playoff push so how in the world is him representing his country at the WJC going to hurt his development? It might not help further his development but it will be a great experience for him, something that he'll never forget while playing some AHL games during the dog days of the regular season will be easily forgettable.
I'd have to disagree with this, as i feel that playing the year with Ebs, Hall, Schultz and even Teemu are VERY important for his development. This whole lost season could be extremely beneficial to us in the long run simply due to these guys getting to play with each other and work on that chemisty.

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12-03-2012, 01:12 PM
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I'd have to disagree with this, as i feel that playing the year with Ebs, Hall, Schultz and even Teemu are VERY important for his development. This whole lost season could be extremely beneficial to us in the long run simply due to these guys getting to play with each other and work on that chemisty.
Possibly, i just don't see how missing some games in the middle of an AHL season will hinder his development. In fact, he might come back refreshed after the WJC tourney, he seems really bored in the AHL tbh.

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12-03-2012, 02:22 PM
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It's good for RNH himself. I'm pretty sure that he wants to experience the WJC atmosphere playing for his home country, he has never had a chance to do this.
Him missing some games in OKC isn't going to do much to hurt his development.
I wonder if being in the AHL the whole season will do anything for his development either.

He's going to get back in plenty of time for the playoff push so how in the world is him representing his country at the WJC going to hurt his development? It might not help further his development but it will be a great experience for him, something that he'll never forget while playing some AHL games during the dog days of the regular season will be easily forgettable.
Is it really all that special for someone that has played a year in the NHL and for team canada at the WC?

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12-03-2012, 02:23 PM
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Possibly, i just don't see how missing some games in the middle of an AHL season will hinder his development. In fact, he might come back refreshed after the WJC tourney, he seems really bored in the AHL tbh.
Doubtful that he comes back refreshed from Russia.

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12-03-2012, 02:37 PM
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I hope he goes and just dominates on route to a gold medal

Didn't hurt Crosby,Getzlaff,Perry et al. in 2005

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Is it really all that special for someone that has played a year in the NHL and for team canada at the WC?
I am not sure if you just saying this to be argumentative or not but for some of us playing for your country is a big deal. This particular tournament is something every young hockey player dreams of participating in.

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12-03-2012, 02:40 PM
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I am not sure if you just saying this to be argumentative or not but for some of us playing for your country is a big deal. This particular tournament is something every young hockey player dreams of participating in.
Sure kids had that dream, but do they have it after playing in the NHL and the world championships?

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Possibly, i just don't see how missing some games in the middle of an AHL season will hinder his development. In fact, he might come back refreshed after the WJC tourney, he seems really bored in the AHL tbh.
Then this is exactly why he should stay in the AHL.

Pro seasons are long. I want players that can find ways to still bring it in December and January.

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12-03-2012, 02:43 PM
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Is it really all that special for someone that has played a year in the NHL and for team canada at the WC?
What does him having played a year in the NHL have to do with it?
The WJC is much more meaningful than the WC at least to Canadians.
It's more about the experience than development. I don't see how it will hurt him, i think that it'll be a great experience for him if anything.
I'm sure that he'll look back one day and be glad that he was able to represent his country at the WJC.

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What does him having played a year in the NHL have to do with it?
The WJC is much more meaningful than the WC at least to Canadians.
It's more about the experience than development. I don't see how it will hurt him, i think that it'll be a great experience for him if anything.
I'm sure that he'll look back one day and be glad that he was able to represent his country at the WJC.
It has a lot to do with it as he's no longer an amateur.

It's like saying a world boxing champion should go to the Olympics.

At this point in his career it's a step back and I question whether or not he would really want to be there.

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Sure kids had that dream, but do they have it after playing in the NHL and the world championships?
Well there is no NHL or World Championships to play so that really isn't an issue

Would you rather play in the minor leagues in middle america playing in front of 4000 fans riding a bus or fly to Russia,win a gold and play in front of millions on tv?

I Know which I would choose

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It has a lot to do with it as he's no longer an amateur.

It's like saying a world boxing champion should go to the Olympics.

At this point in his career it's a step back and I question whether or not he would really want to be there.
He just turned 19 not too long ago, he's not so far removed from junior that he is far above a tournament like this. Hell, he was born only 6 months before Yakupov, he's still a kid.
As i said before, it's more about the experience than anything else.

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Sure kids had that dream, but do they have it after playing in the NHL and the world championships?
That's a good question but Ryan doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would have his head grow because he was passed up on and has now played at higher levels. I would think he would want to go play as achieving that triple crown or triple gold(Olympic gold, WJHC gold and SC) is a pretty special achievement.

He's still eligible to play and with the perfect storm (NHL on lockout) this will be one and only chance to go do it. Of all things I don't think he personally would use his prior experiences as a reason not to go. But that's just me speaking for him

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Well there is no NHL or World Championships to play so that really isn't an issue

Would you rather play in the minor leagues in middle america playing in front of 4000 fans riding a bus or fly to Russia,win a gold and play in front of millions on tv?

I Know which I would choose
Ask him. It's really that simple.

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Ask him. It's really that simple.
I think they are letting him choose so it really is all moot to be arguing about it

and from what it sounds like he wants to go

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It's three without a gold, 1 without a gold medal game.
just as bad. this is the WJ we are talking about. Traditionally, a canada dominated tournament

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just as bad. this is the WJ we are talking about. Traditionally, a canada dominated tournament
First off, it's evident that hockey programs around the world are getting better.

Secondly, if you look at the past 13 years Canada has won 5 gold medals and has played in 10/13 of the gold medal games. Seems to me they are dominating compared to the other countries.

Honestly I think some Canadians have a complex when it comes to hockey. Canada could have gold medals in 12 of the last 13 world juniors and that one team that didn't win would be utterly shunned.

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just as bad. this is the WJ we are talking about. Traditionally, a canada dominated tournament
Not anymore

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