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12-01-2012, 08:25 PM
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Graovac with an ugly -6 statline tonight.

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Wow. Dude has been beasting for a while now. 6th round pick magic.
I was afraid they weren't going to sign him. Something tells me, he could be better than Hackett or Kuemper once he gets over here.

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12-02-2012, 12:59 AM
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Graovac with an ugly -6 statline tonight.
Unfortunately, he isn't the only one. Two -5s and one -4...

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12-02-2012, 01:25 AM
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Mario scored 2 tonight, he's got 4 goals in 6 games for ND. I would expect him to make the WJC team the way he's come back from his injury.

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12-03-2012, 09:12 AM
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THREE STARS:
1. Lucia (3-0=3 in 2gp)
2. Gustafsson (3W in 3gp)
3. Zucker (2-1=3 in 2gp)

COLD:
Coyle, Scandella, Graovac


NHL
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave

AHL/ECHL
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
RJustin Fontaine5'1017025.1AHLHouston Aeros198111902    
LJason Zucker5'1117420.9AHLHouston Aeros161171812-1    
LJohan Larsson5'1020020.4AHLHouston Aeros20671316-2    
CMikael Granlund5'1018020.8AHLHouston Aeros8481225    
RNick Palmieri6'222523.4AHLHouston Aeros206511244    
CCharlie Coyle6'220520.8AHLHouston Aeros20741141    
DMarco Scandella6'221622.8AHLHouston Aeros1609920    
CDavid McIntyre6'019025.8AHLHouston Aeros19549149    
LKris Foucault6'120222AHLHouston Aeros173582-5    
DChay Genoway5'917726AHLHouston Aeros18268122    
CZack Phillips6'017520.1AHLHouston Aeros181782-7    
CChad Rau5'1117525.9AHLHouston Aeros1342643    
DSteven Kampfer5'1119724.2AHLHouston Aeros1406610-10    
CCarson McMillan6'120024.2AHLHouston Aeros1714543    
DJonas Brodin6'116619.4AHLHouston Aeros822442    
CJoel Broda6'019623AHLHouston Aeros1812316-5    
DTyler Cuma6'218022.9AHLHouston Aeros141236-4    
LBrett Bulmer6'318520.6AHLHouston Aeros1711219-8    
DJosh Caron6'221521.8AHLHouston Aeros50005-1    
GMatt Hackett6'217022.8AHLHouston Aeros      1682.770.901
GDarcy Kuemper6'419522.6AHLHouston Aeros      532.560.898
DKyle Medvec6'519124.5ECHLOrlando Solar Bears11347123    
DSean Lorenz6'119122.8ECHLOrlando Solar Bears1605502    
DJosh Caron   ECHLOrlando Solar Bears1411228-2    

Europe
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
CCody Almond6'219923.4Swiss-AGeneve Servette2661319404    
RMikko Lehtonen6'319625.7KHLCherepovets Severstal2336980    
DDaniel Gunnarsson6'520120.6SELLulea HF28459128    
DBjorn Krupp6'218921.8DELCologne Sharks1814583    
CChristoph Bertschy5'1017018.7Swiss-ABern24213100    
GJohan Gustafsson6'220220.8SELLulea HF      18121.540.935
GDennis Endras6'016727.4DELMannheim Eagles      19112.470.918

College
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
LErik Haula5'1018421.7WCHAU. of Minnesota15712194     
DNick Seeler6'017019.5WCHAU. of Nebraska-Omaha1224612     
DJohn Draeger6'218619CCHAMichigan State University141454     
CAnthony Hamburg6'118521.3R.I.T.AHA111348     
FMario Lucia6'218719.3CCHANotre Dame64154     
GStephen Michalek6'219619.3NCAAHarvard          

Junior
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
LRaphael Bussieres6'119519.1QMJHLBaie-Comeau Drakkar291720371613    
CTyler Graovac6'317919.6OHLOttawa 67's23189276-15    
LLouis Nanne5'1117118.5BCHLPenticton Vees228101810     
DMathew Dumba6'018418.4WHLRed Deer Rebels28691537-3    
CAdam Gilmour6'219318.9USHLMuskegon Lumberjacks21691545    
DColton Jobke6'017520.6WHLRegina Pats151121342-1    

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12-03-2012, 10:11 AM
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A note on Scandella: A couple posters are speculating he is playing with a wrist injury. They had a "leadership training" camp and in the pictures that came out his wrist is all taped up. That's in the Aeros thread I believe.

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12-03-2012, 10:30 AM
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I believe he's gone 3+ weeks without a point? Same with Coyle...

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12-03-2012, 10:57 AM
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Mario scored 2 tonight, he's got 4 goals in 6 games for ND. I would expect him to make the WJC team the way he's come back from his injury.
Pretty impressive for a Freshman coming off a broken leg

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12-03-2012, 11:19 AM
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That's why so many of us were excited about him. He and Zucker were the only legit goal scoring prospects.

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12-03-2012, 12:28 PM
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I believe he's gone 3+ weeks without a point? Same with Coyle...
As a couple people have insisted about Coyle, he's not a gamebreaker. He can put things away when he's fed, but he needs someone to feed him or he doesn't produce. A guy like Zucker fits and produces no matter who he plays with, and that's why he's been unaffected by the Granlund injury.


Scandella missed 3 games with a wrist injury at the beginning of November. Prior to that he had 8 points in 7 games. Since returning he has had 1 point in 9 games.

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12-03-2012, 12:53 PM
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What are the lines in Houston?

Larsson and Zucker have been very good. Are they playing with Coyle? Phillips is still pretty cold.

Coyle I'm not too concerned, he's still learning how to be a pro.

Scandy I'd like to see more from but I can't get his defensive play from the stats. It is what it is.

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12-03-2012, 01:05 PM
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I'm not 100% certain on Houston lines but the top 2 lines are:

Zucker-Larsson-Coyle
Palmieri-McIntyre-Fontaine

Phillips is getting tossed all over the lineup when he gets on the ice at all it seems.

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12-03-2012, 01:09 PM
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Wonder if Fontaine might get an NHL shot if he keeps up his play. And if there's ever an NHL.

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12-03-2012, 01:16 PM
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I think Coyle does things right even if he doesn't produce. As mentioned he doesn't produce if no-one feeds him. He battles hard and makes it easier for his linemates to produce. He does score with a nice percentage when he gets a chance.

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I think Coyle does things right even if he doesn't produce. As mentioned he doesn't produce if no-one feeds him. He battles hard and makes it easier for his linemates to produce. He does score with a nice percentage when he gets a chance.
I apologize if this is me beating the dead horse but I have changed my opinion quite a bit on Coyle. When I saw him at camp and in scrimmages, I was curious what everyone was so excited about. I thought he looked OK at last year's WJC but was still unconvinced. However, after seeing him in every Aeros game this year, and paying close attention to his play away from the puck, I now understand how good of a player he is.

In addition to missing a player who can get him the puck where he scores (Granlund), the larger problem is that Coyle's game is solely dependent on a strong cycle, and linemates being in the right spots at all times. He has probably been the best forward PKer this year. He rarely loses puck battles on the boards. He is strong enough to get on the outside of defenders and lean all the way in to create space and scoring opportunities. He makes simple plays with the puck.

In other words, when he gets to the NHL, you will notice him more because the NHLers are far better in the cycle and positionally. I think his style fits perfectly with todays NHL. He will not skate by three guys. He does not have the wrist shot Zucker does. He will not make cross ice passes like Granlund. But he will control the puck in the cycle, he will get to the net, he will draw penalties, and he won't have a lot of turnovers. And I don't think he will do all of these without ending up on the scoresheet himself.

As I have stated in other threads, I think he would flourish with Koivu.

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^ This.

E: I don't know how he would fit with Koivu tho. I wonder if the line would lack speed.


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In other words the exact kind of player the Wild have been missing without Latendresse?

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In other words the exact kind of player the Wild have been missing without Latendresse?
I actually think Lats has better hands and a heavier shot. I don't think Coyle has the creativity to make the passes that Lats could. However, I think Coyle is much better defensively, positionally, and will be more consistent night in and out.

There were times Lats was unstoppable offensively due to sheer size. While Coyle is strong, he is not as heavy as Lats. 230-240 is more than what I see Coyle ending up..

ANyways, your question was kind of player...and, yes, I think Coyle is going to be a PF type player in that he'll screen goalies, get tip ins/rebound goals near the crease, and draw penalties.

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^ This.

E: I don't know how he would fit with Koivu tho. I wonder if the line would lack speed.
They are not that fast but I think their positioning makes up for it. What intrigues me about them is their ability along the boards. While Coyle is no Brunette, he is above average, imo, and is more agile.

I could be wrong but I'd at least like to see it whenever Coyle makes his appearance.

Another option is Brodziak. Remember how he and Johnson were effective when Johnson was actually competing? Coyle does everything Johnson did but better. However, Koivu can find Coyle with his passing ability. I am not so sure Brodziak has that ability.

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They are not that fast but I think their positioning makes up for it. What intrigues me about them is their ability along the boards. While Coyle is no Brunette, he is above average, imo, and is more agile.

I could be wrong but I'd at least like to see it whenever Coyle makes his appearance.

Another option is Brodziak. Remember how he and Johnson were effective when Johnson was actually competing? Coyle does everything Johnson did but better. However, Koivu can find Coyle with his passing ability. I am not so sure Brodziak has that ability.
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[QUOTE=Jbcraig1883;56213853]I actually think Lats has better hands and a heavier shot. I don't think Coyle has the creativity to make the passes that Lats could. However, I think Coyle is much better defensively, positionally, and will be more consistent night in and out.
[QUOTE]

Coyle would like to disagree with you.



Coyle is a little taller than Lats and is still growing into his body. Size will not be a problem. I like the points for defense that you brought up. We aren't sacrificing much offense from Lats to Coyle, but its a defensive gain.

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[QUOTE=Victorious Secret;56215869][QUOTE=Jbcraig1883;56213853]I actually think Lats has better hands and a heavier shot. I don't think Coyle has the creativity to make the passes that Lats could. However, I think Coyle is much better defensively, positionally, and will be more consistent night in and out.
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Coyle would like to disagree with you.



Coyle is a little taller than Lats and is still growing into his body. Size will not be a problem. I like the points for defense that you brought up. We aren't sacrificing much offense from Lats to Coyle, but its a defensive gain.


I saw Stephane Veilleux toe drag a Tampa Bay defenseman his rookie year and then forehand-backhand to score.

Point is that I have no problem if you disagree, but it's gonna take more than one highlight to convince me.

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Parise - Koivu - Coyle

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