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12-03-2012, 02:15 PM
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Iconic?

For better or worse?

Player and/or coach and/or writer and/or builder and/or broadcaster and/or image and/or etc.....?

(From a Bostonian born in the late 50's)

- Bobby Orr
- Wayne Gretzky
- Gordie Howe
- Rocket Richard
- Ken Dryden
- Bobby Hull
- Eddie Shore

- Montreal CH jersey
- CCCP jersey

- Don Cherry

- Scotty Bowman
- Punch Imlach

- CCM

- USA Miracle On Ice

- Bettman (for better or worse)

- Hanson Brothers (for better or worse)

- Peter Puck (for better or worse)

- Derek Sanderson - (for better or worse) was an iconic catalyst for massive changes culture-wise in the early 70's.

- Manon Rheaume (title IX influenced hockey poster child) Not much impact really but iconic nonetheless.

- Did not see any of the Summit Series
- Did not read any of the Canadian press / Never had the builders lionized in my region as as they are in Canada
- Do not see any HNIC broadcasts
- Hockey in Europe is still a mystery to many in North America, I'm sure there are so many iconic figures there that are unknown here.

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12-03-2012, 02:18 PM
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In the New York area: Gretzky, Howe, Orr, Richard, Messier.

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12-03-2012, 02:38 PM
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- Hockey in Europe is still a mystery to many in North America, I'm sure there are so many iconic figures there that are unknown here.
I think Kharlamov and Tretiak are icons in North America. So are Salming and Forsberg. Also Hašek. Lidström too by now.

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12-03-2012, 04:16 PM
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kind of depends what we mean by "icon," but in terms of fame, recognizability, what they meant to the game, what they meant to a particular fanbase, and the degree to which they transcended the game (i don't necessarily just mean gretzky being a celebrity in the 80s/90s, but also richard triggering a freakin' riot and other habs being used as symbols for the quebec sovereignty movement), i'd go with:

gretzky -- especially for the average joe non-hockey fan. he had his own cereal, and that cereal had its own saturday morning cartoon. he was on SNL, and andy warhol did a portrait of him. a level of crossover fame and name/image recognizability that far exceeded any other hockey player ever.

richard -- here, i go with a more local iconicity. what he meant to quebec maybe exceeds in scale and resonance what any other hockey player has ever meant to a fanbase. i mean like ali/jackie robinson-esque. as canadian kids, we all watched that roch carrier film strip a million times in school and on cbc.

orr -- he has the local value to new england sports, where he remains a god, and also in the wider sense as an image of pure brilliance and the best the game can offer. and his legacy is frozen in one timeless image to a degree that no one else, even henderson or eruzione, can equal.

beliveau -- similar to richard. less politically charged, but maybe more beloved.

howe -- they called him mr. hockey.


a very north america-centric list obviously though. i mean, forsberg in sweden (the stamp), or maybe sundin or salming probably would approach if not equal beliveau's stature in quebec.

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12-03-2012, 05:26 PM
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Don Cherry

Dennis Bonvie

Bobby Orr

Gordie Howe

Alan Eagleson

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12-03-2012, 08:28 PM
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Don Cherry

Dennis Bonvie

Bobby Orr

Gordie Howe

Alan Eagleson
Eagleson....good call. Up there with Bettman for all that is bad about hockey.

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12-03-2012, 08:29 PM
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1. Gretzky
2. Howe
3. Orr
4. Lemieux
5. Plante

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Tarasov,s name should at least be in the mix.

Also Howie Morenz

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12-03-2012, 11:57 PM
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In the Czech Republic:

1) Jaromir Jagr and it's not even close. He's a demigod in our country.






2) Dominik Hasek
3) Vladimir Ruzicka (mainly because of his coaching success)
4) Wayne Gretzky
5) Mario Lemieux

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12-04-2012, 01:07 AM
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Gretzky
Cherry
Bettman
Orr
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12-04-2012, 05:11 AM
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1, Eddie Shore. Old time hockey.
2, Mats Sundin. What he did for us swedes is great.
3, Mario Lemieux. In Masterton contention year in, year out.
4, Frank Brimsek. Gotta love that first US goalie, please dont call me out if there was one in 1910 or something.
5, Mikael Renberg. Just loved the guy as a kid. Could go with Hasek here, but it's a wash.

Not even close.

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12-04-2012, 06:58 AM
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It depends where you are from. If you are from Sweden, Forsberg will be on there. If you're Czech, Hasek will be on that list. Selänne would be on there for Finns and so on.
Exactly and I think it depends on the time too. I think Wayne Gretzky is the best universal choice though.


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12-04-2012, 07:24 AM
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a very north america-centric list obviously though. i mean, forsberg in sweden (the stamp), or maybe sundin or salming probably would approach if not equal beliveau's stature in quebec.
A lot of older people here thinks that Lef "Honken" Holmqvist is like Mona Lisa. He took a lot of shots from the soviets back in the day.

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Exotic, but... for Germany:

1. Erich "der Lange" (="Hightower") Kühnhackl. Bronze medal at the 76 Olympics and leading scorer of the WC 78. The official "german ice hockey player of the century". Rumour says he turned down offers by the Rangers and Habs in the 70s.

2. Xaver Unsinn. Coach of Germany's national team in 1964, 1975 to 1977, 1981 to 1990. Bronze medal at the 76 Olympics. Even more famous for his trademark Houndstooth Hipster Hat.

3. Uwe Krupp. Colorado Avalanche. 1996. 'nuff said.

4. Josef "Jupp" Kompalla. Most famous/infamous german referee of all time.

5. Robert Müller. Gifted goalie, diagnosed with brain tumor in 2006, recovered and came back 2007, but died 2009, age 28. His number 80 is retired by the german major leage DEL.

HM:
Dennis Seidenberg (SC-Winner with Boston)

Joseph "Peppi" Heiss (Goalie)

Udo Kießling (Germany's Bobby Orr)

Hans "Alps Volcano" Zach (famous coach)

Peter Draisaitl (anyone remember the penalty shot against Team Canada at the 92 Olympics? The horror, the horror!)

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1 99 Wayne Gretzky C 6'0" 185 1978-1999
2 4 Bobby Orr D 6'0" 199 1966-1977;1978-1979
3 9 Gordie Howe RW 6'0" 205 1946-1971;1973-1980
4 66 Mario Lemieux C 6'4" 200 1984-1997;2000-2006
5 9 Bobby Hull LW 5'10" 191 1957-1980
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=669817 I'll take these guys.

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Hockey related for me:
Gretzky
Lemieux
Orr
Crosby
Howe
Lidstrom
Roy
Brodeur

off the ice:
Bettman
Ted Lindsay
Campbell
Eagleson
Cherry
Ron MacLean (he's been doing HNIC since I started watching hockey)

I honestly don't think today's avg hockey fan knows much about Morenz or anything pre-50s for it to be considered iconic but this is my own personal list.

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Richard
Beliveau
Morenz
Lafleur
Plante

Wait, you mean there is hockey outside Montreal???

EDIT: Actually, now that I think of it, who would be the #5 for the Habs? I think the top-4 icons are pretty much agreed to be Morenz, Richard, Beliveau and Lafleur. But after? I think you could argue for any of:

Plante
Harvey
Roy
Robinson
Dryden
Geoffrion
Vezina

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Exotic, but... for Germany:

1. Erich "der Lange" (="Hightower") Kühnhackl. Bronze medal at the 76 Olympics and leading scorer of the WC 78. The official "german ice hockey player of the century". Rumour says he turned down offers by the Rangers and Habs in the 70s.

2. Xaver Unsinn. Coach of Germany's national team in 1964, 1975 to 1977, 1981 to 1990. Bronze medal at the 76 Olympics. Even more famous for his trademark Houndstooth Hipster Hat.

3. Uwe Krupp. Colorado Avalanche. 1996. 'nuff said.

4. Josef "Jupp" Kompalla. Most famous/infamous german referee of all time.

5. Robert Müller. Gifted goalie, diagnosed with brain tumor in 2006, recovered and came back 2007, but died 2009, age 28. His number 80 is retired by the german major leage DEL.

HM:
Dennis Seidenberg (SC-Winner with Boston)

Joseph "Peppi" Heiss (Goalie)

Udo Kießling (Germany's Bobby Orr)

Hans "Alps Volcano" Zach (famous coach)

Peter Draisaitl (anyone remember the penalty shot against Team Canada at the 92 Olympics? The horror, the horror!)
I was going insane, even though I bet money on Canada (who wouldn't have?)

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Hockey related for me:
Gretzky
Lemieux
Orr
Crosby
Howe
Lidstrom
Roy
Brodeur

off the ice:
Bettman
Ted Lindsay
Campbell
Eagleson
Cherry
Ron MacLean (he's been doing HNIC since I started watching hockey)

I honestly don't think today's avg hockey fan knows much about Morenz or anything pre-50s for it to be considered iconic but this is my own personal list.
Nice to see him mentioned. I enjoy his work immensely.

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12-04-2012, 06:40 PM
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In the general United States (so in other words, not in specific markets etc.), I would say it's probably something like

Gretzky
Gretzky
Gretzky
Gretzky
Bettman

with maybe Herb Brooks and Barry Melrose as honorable mentions.

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It depends where you are from. If you are from Sweden, Forsberg will be on there. If you're Czech, Hasek will be on that list. Selänne would be on there for Finns and so on.
Believe or not Jagr is a bigger icon in the Czech Republic than Hasek is.

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for 10 mill czech ppl .. Jagr by far ... ppl love him so much here ...
Plenty of non-czechs agree with you. When I was but a small boy and couldn't give a crap about hockey, all the hockey interested kids were raving about Gretzky and mullet Jagr. He's an icon of the sport for sure, to make matters even better, he shows up decades later and is one of the dominant players on the ice.

IMO, hockey has few superstars that you just wanna see...Jagr is one of those few.

And how could I forget Sundin, shame on me. One of the greatest warriors to represent Tre Kronor. A natural addition to my icon list.

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Gretzky
Richard
Howe
Orr
Crosby
Lemieux

I'd say as many if not more non hockey fans today know who Crosby is rather than Lemieux.

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Crosby
Lemieux

I'd say as many if not more non hockey fans today know who Crosby is rather than Lemieux.
Yeah, but for those who know Lemieux he at least should be seen as a god in contrast to whatever the average-Joe in the US thinks about Crosby.

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