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Do PK Subban and Brent Seabrook make the next Team Canada defense?

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12-02-2012, 12:20 PM
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Weber Doughty
Pietrangelo Letang
Keith Seabrook
Staal
This is my answer as well.

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12-02-2012, 12:42 PM
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Seabrook is a lock. A lot of ppl just don't realize how good he is. PK not so much. Pietrangelo wins that spot by a mile for example.

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12-02-2012, 02:01 PM
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Subban's not in the conversation right now. Seabrook obviously is.

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12-03-2012, 03:34 PM
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I think reuniting Alzner and Doughty from their 2008 Gold World Junior days would be good since Alzner is a defensive left D and Doughty the offensive right D. Alzner's superior defense would allow Doughty the freedom to rush the puck without worry.

Alzner is one of the smoothest and best backwards skaters I've ever seen. Not to mention tops in keeping the gap and lessening good scoring chances. Especially important in International play where overly physical play can draw penalties.

You need to have the role players on the team too.

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12-03-2012, 06:20 PM
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Experience is on Seabrook's side on this one, it means a lot to the staff. He'll make it, Subban won't.

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12-03-2012, 11:44 PM
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Stamkos - Crosby(A) - Iginla(C)
Tavares - Giroux - Perry
E. Staal - Getzlaf - Eberle
Richards - Toews(A) - Nash

Weber(A) Doughty
Pietrangelo Letang
Keith Seabrook
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12-03-2012, 11:44 PM
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Please do not let Subban in that team...it's gonna get to his head damn it. (and I'm a Habs fan)

Seriously, Alex Pietrangelo deserves more a spot than Subban.

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12-03-2012, 11:51 PM
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Depending on how he plays next year Seabrook might, Green won't Subban won't

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12-04-2012, 12:32 AM
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I like Subban's speed for the international ice.


I also think Weber's stock will fall hard without Suter.

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12-04-2012, 12:40 AM
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This is my answer as well.
Weber (RH) Doughty (RH)
Pietrangelo (RH) Letang (RH)
Keith (LH) Seabrook (RH)
Staal (LH)

It's much harder to play your off side on defense on a larger surface than it is for wingers. I think for that reason players like Hamhuis and Phaneuf will get a hard look.

Doughty Weber
Keith Pietrengelo
Hamhuis/Phaneuf Letang

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12-04-2012, 12:50 AM
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I think Hamhuis and Alzner should make it on the left side, and Murray could easily be there IMO

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12-04-2012, 05:33 AM
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I think we'll see Justin Schultz there, for the PP at least. The chances are not amazing, but if he's even half as good as he in the AHL at putting up points, he'll be there.

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12-04-2012, 08:16 AM
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I think we'll see Justin Schultz there, for the PP at least. The chances are not amazing, but if he's even half as good as he in the AHL at putting up points, he'll be there.
He won't have enough time to prove himself. If we lose this season to the lockout then he'll only have half a season before the Olympics and with the amount of talented D that Canada can choose from there's no chance that they take a rookie.

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I think we'll see Justin Schultz there, for the PP at least. The chances are not amazing, but if he's even half as good as he in the AHL at putting up points, he'll be there.
His chances are next to nil IMO. Canada rarely takes PP specialists to the Olympics, and when they do (i.e., Boyle in 2010, and Letang in 2014), they're solid defensively and capable of playing regular ES shifts. Shultz isn't there yet, and I personally doubt Hockey Canada will place a whole lot of value on his AHL performance. AHL =/= Olympics, in terms of caliber of play, and its not even close. Hockey Canada understandably places a premium on defensive play over offensive play when it comes to selecting defencemen. And besides, we're in good hands with Doughty, Keith, Weber, Pietrangelo, and Letang all pretty much locks to make the team.

Besides, there are still quite a few better options available to us for offensive-minded defencemen; Del Zotto, Subban, and Campbell come immediately to mind.

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12-04-2012, 01:36 PM
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Weber (RH) Doughty (RH)
Pietrangelo (RH) Letang (RH)
Keith (LH) Seabrook (RH)
Staal (LH)

It's much harder to play your off side on defense on a larger surface than it is for wingers. I think for that reason players like Hamhuis and Phaneuf will get a hard look.

Doughty Weber
Keith Pietrengelo
Hamhuis/Phaneuf Letang
So adding anothe rrighty in Phaneuf would solve it???

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Stamkos - Crosby(A) - Iginla(C)
Tavares - Giroux - Perry
E. Staal - Getzlaf - Eberle
Richards - Toews(A) - Nash

Weber(A) Doughty
Pietrangelo Letang
Keith Seabrook
Green
Why is Toews always slotted on the 4th line?
Anyone remember him in the 2010 olympics?
He was an absolute BEAST.

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Obviously it looks great on paper but really concerning is the lack of lefties. Doughty, Letang, Pietrangelo and Weber I think will be the consensus best four defensemen in the country by the Olympics. All are right shots. Keith is a lefty but he's a step below those guys in my opinion...

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Seabrook will probably make it as the #7 dman.

Pietrangelo-Weber
Keith-Doughty
Hamhuis-Letang
Seabrook

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12-04-2012, 04:41 PM
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Subban should be on there but I have a feeling that he might get beat out by a surprise like Tyler Myers (who isn't really a surprise, he just has to stay healthy and be more consistent) or Doughty if he struggles in the regular season again while others excel will miss out.

Seabrook should at no cost be there. We don't need a defensive minded dman when we have 7 capable all-round dmen who can play great defence with offense and have big-ice speed. I'm happy with what Seabrook did in 2010 but I'd be sad if him or Girardi make the team unless there's no good all-round option.

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I think Hamhuis and Alzner should make it on the left side, and Murray could easily be there IMO
They will follow the 2010 model and pick players with 2 way play (as much as I like Alzner). Seabrook has more of a chance than Hamhuis.

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12-04-2012, 08:39 PM
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They will follow the 2010 model and pick players with 2 way play (as much as I like Alzner). Seabrook has more of a chance than Hamhuis.
Vancouver was on small ice. Sochi is on big ice. Alzner on big ice with his rare mistakes, next to never out of position and good size bode him well.

Not to mention Yzerman sees a lot of him stopping his top scoring line -Stamkos & Marty so he knows what he brings to the table.

A solid dependable left hand defensive d to go along with all the offensive D.


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So adding anothe rrighty in Phaneuf would solve it???
Phaneuf is a lefty ....

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I think Seabrook makes it as #7 who could step in and play alongside Keith as well if coaches decide to use him in top 6

Keith struggled alot in 2010-2011 but bounced back to a more normal level of play in 2011-12

I think he is lock barring injury

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What do you think perhaps Kesler or Parise instead.
This is the best post I've seen a while. Oh my god.

On that topic, Getzlaf just needs a good bounce back year and he'll be right back in the picture. Team Canada loves him.

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I think we'll see Justin Schultz there, for the PP at least. The chances are not amazing, but if he's even half as good as he in the AHL at putting up points, he'll be there.
AHL.....versus....NHL.......apparently it's not that big a difference, so Schultz must be better than at least one of Pietrangelo, Keith, Letang, Weber, Doughty, Seabrook.

Unreal what not being a Ducks prospect anymore can do for your talent's image.


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