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Phaneuf vs Kronwall

View Poll Results: Who's better?
Phaneuf 53 32.52%
Kronwall 82 50.31%
Even 28 17.18%
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12-04-2012, 11:49 AM
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Phaneuf vs Kronwall

Who's the better player?

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12-04-2012, 11:55 AM
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Leafs fan voting even. Both similiar, good players. Any difference between the two is negligible

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12-04-2012, 12:13 PM
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Close but Kronwall

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12-04-2012, 12:30 PM
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Kronwall, I've always felt he was underrated living in Lidstroms shadow.

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12-04-2012, 12:33 PM
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Kronwall.

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12-04-2012, 12:41 PM
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I would take Kronwall, but very very close

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12-04-2012, 12:57 PM
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Leafs fan voting even. Both similiar, good players. Any difference between the two is negligible
This Wings fan agreeing with this.

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12-04-2012, 01:06 PM
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Voted even. It's close and I like both players, I'd say if there's a gun to my head I'd take Phaneuf.

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12-04-2012, 01:20 PM
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It's pretty even. I like Phaneuf more.

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12-04-2012, 01:51 PM
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It's unfair comparing a prospect goalie in the juniors with a NHL defenseman.

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12-04-2012, 02:13 PM
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Kronwall. He's better offensively and defensively.

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12-04-2012, 02:24 PM
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Kronwall... Pretty easily

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12-04-2012, 02:54 PM
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Kronwall. He's better offensively and defensively.
How is he better offensively?

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12-04-2012, 03:40 PM
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Pretty close to even. I voted Dion just to close up the gap a little bit.

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12-04-2012, 03:50 PM
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Pretty close to even. I voted Dion just to close up the gap a little bit.
That makes all the sense in the world...

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12-04-2012, 03:59 PM
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How is he better offensively?
Well lets see, both were equal on even strength this year. Phaneuf had 8 more points on the PP this year... And also played about a minute more on the PP every night.

The year before, Dion missed some games, but even by PPG calculations, he was quite a bit behind Kronwall on even strength, and slightly ahead of him on the PP... Having played 1:20 more PER GAME.

The year before that, Kronwall missed nearly half the season. Using the same PPG calculations, Kronwall was slightly under Dion in even strength scoring, and 3 points behind in PP scoring... When Dion was playing 1:30 more PER GAME.

So pretty easy to see Kronwall is better on even strength, whereas Dion gets more points on the PP because he gets more time.

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12-04-2012, 04:17 PM
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Well lets see, both were equal on even strength this year. Phaneuf had 8 more points on the PP this year... And also played about a minute more on the PP every night.

The year before, Dion missed some games, but even by PPG calculations, he was quite a bit behind Kronwall on even strength, and slightly ahead of him on the PP... Having played 1:20 more PER GAME.

The year before that, Kronwall missed nearly half the season. Using the same PPG calculations, Kronwall was slightly under Dion in even strength scoring, and 3 points behind in PP scoring... When Dion was playing 1:30 more PER GAME.

So pretty easy to see Kronwall is better on even strength, whereas Dion gets more points on the PP because he gets more time.
Dion has clearly been the better and more consistent offensively player in their careers. Dion has 5 40+ point seasons, Nik has 1. And Dion is 4 years younger.

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12-04-2012, 04:19 PM
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Kronwall, I've always felt he was underrated living in Lidstroms shadow.
Who knows, on a bad team he might get exposed a lot more. Works both ways.

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12-04-2012, 04:26 PM
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I picked Kron so suck it Phenauf!

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12-04-2012, 04:45 PM
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Dion has clearly been the better and more consistent offensively player in their careers. Dion has 5 40+ point seasons, Nik has 1. And Dion is 4 years younger.
Playing under Lidstrom and Rafalski for the vast majority of your career has that affect. Your move.

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12-04-2012, 05:21 PM
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Playing under Lidstrom and Rafalski for the vast majority of your career has that affect. Your move.
In other words, nothing tangible.

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Playing under Lidstrom and Rafalski for the vast majority of your career has that affect. Your move.
And it can make you look better than you are.

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I'll take Phaneuf

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Dion has clearly been the better and more consistent offensively player in their careers. Dion has 5 40+ point seasons, Nik has 1. And Dion is 4 years younger.
Where they are in their careers, age isn't a factor in who's better right now. They're not young enough to let us think they could improve significantly and not old enough to let us think that they'll regress due to age.

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And it can make you look better than you are.
Not when he was rarely ever on the ice with either of them. Step it up.

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