Phaneuf vs Kronwall

[Vankiller Whale]

Who's the better player?

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

Leafs fan voting even. Both similiar, good players. Any difference between the two is negligible

[Habs 4 Life]

Close but Kronwall

[SenateReform]

Kronwall, I've always felt he was underrated living in Lidstroms shadow.

[Benny FTW]

Kronwall.

[Avs44]

I would take Kronwall, but very very close

[InjuredChoker]

Originally Posted by GordieHoweHatTrick

Leafs fan voting even. Both similiar, good players. Any difference between the two is negligible

This Wings fan agreeing with this.

[OzzyFan]

Voted even. It's close and I like both players, I'd say if there's a gun to my head I'd take Phaneuf.

[bp spec]

It's pretty even. I like Phaneuf more.

[Diamondillium]

It's unfair comparing a prospect goalie in the juniors with a NHL defenseman.

[eva unit zero]

Kronwall. He's better offensively and defensively.

[Izzy Mandelbaum]

Kronwall... Pretty easily

[TieClark]

Originally Posted by eva unit zero

Kronwall. He's better offensively and defensively.

How is he better offensively?

[Pheasant the peasant]

Pretty close to even. I voted Dion just to close up the gap a little bit.

[The Red Line]

Originally Posted by Pheasant the peasant

Pretty close to even. I voted Dion just to close up the gap a little bit.

That makes all the sense in the world...

[Wingsfan2965]

Originally Posted by TieClark

How is he better offensively?

Well lets see, both were equal on even strength this year. Phaneuf had 8 more points on the PP this year... And also played about a minute more on the PP every night.

The year before, Dion missed some games, but even by PPG calculations, he was quite a bit behind Kronwall on even strength, and slightly ahead of him on the PP... Having played 1:20 more PER GAME.

The year before that, Kronwall missed nearly half the season. Using the same PPG calculations, Kronwall was slightly under Dion in even strength scoring, and 3 points behind in PP scoring... When Dion was playing 1:30 more PER GAME.

So pretty easy to see Kronwall is better on even strength, whereas Dion gets more points on the PP because he gets more time.

[RogerRoeper*]

Originally Posted by Wingsfan2965

Well lets see, both were equal on even strength this year. Phaneuf had 8 more points on the PP this year... And also played about a minute more on the PP every night.

The year before, Dion missed some games, but even by PPG calculations, he was quite a bit behind Kronwall on even strength, and slightly ahead of him on the PP... Having played 1:20 more PER GAME.

The year before that, Kronwall missed nearly half the season. Using the same PPG calculations, Kronwall was slightly under Dion in even strength scoring, and 3 points behind in PP scoring... When Dion was playing 1:30 more PER GAME.

So pretty easy to see Kronwall is better on even strength, whereas Dion gets more points on the PP because he gets more time.

Dion has clearly been the better and more consistent offensively player in their careers. Dion has 5 40+ point seasons, Nik has 1. And Dion is 4 years younger.

[RogerRoeper*]

Originally Posted by SenateReform

Kronwall, I've always felt he was underrated living in Lidstroms shadow.

Who knows, on a bad team he might get exposed a lot more. Works both ways.

[TheAngryHank]

I picked Kron so suck it Phenauf!

[Wingsfan2965]

Originally Posted by RogerRoeper

Dion has clearly been the better and more consistent offensively player in their careers. Dion has 5 40+ point seasons, Nik has 1. And Dion is 4 years younger.

Playing under Lidstrom and Rafalski for the vast majority of your career has that affect. Your move.

[iPunch]

Originally Posted by Wingsfan2965

Playing under Lidstrom and Rafalski for the vast majority of your career has that affect. Your move.

In other words, nothing tangible.

[RogerRoeper*]

Originally Posted by Wingsfan2965

Playing under Lidstrom and Rafalski for the vast majority of your career has that affect. Your move.

And it can make you look better than you are.

[x74Pacioretty74x]

I'll take Phaneuf

[jmdubois585]

Originally Posted by RogerRoeper

Dion has clearly been the better and more consistent offensively player in their careers. Dion has 5 40+ point seasons, Nik has 1. And Dion is 4 years younger.

Where they are in their careers, age isn't a factor in who's better right now. They're not young enough to let us think they could improve significantly and not old enough to let us think that they'll regress due to age.

[Wingsfan2965]

Originally Posted by RogerRoeper

And it can make you look better than you are.

Not when he was rarely ever on the ice with either of them. Step it up.