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12-04-2012, 01:57 PM
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I dont like the mix of players(toews, miller etc. put alot more emotion into this than actual logic) BUT its a decent mix of owners minus jacobs.

you never know what will happen when the owners actually talk to them directly.

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This meeting is already a flop... 1 hour delay.

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I think the owners will try to convince the players that they need to keep the teams healthy in order to continue to grow revenues and will probably appeal to them in a more friendly manner. Attempt to convince the players that they are not lying and hiding millions of dollars from them.

Meanwhile Bettman is proposing one last proposal to Fehr.

Then when the PA meets afterwards, the players will feel better about accepting a slightly better offer from a more 'human' group of owners.

Just my thought on how I would try to sway the players in this situation if I were on the league side.

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12-04-2012, 01:58 PM
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This meeting is already a flop... 1 hour delay.
It started an hour ago

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12-04-2012, 01:59 PM
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This meeting is already a flop... 1 hour delay.
Serious? Well it is lead by Fehr so it shouldn't be surprising.

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12-04-2012, 02:00 PM
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I hope... and it's just a pipe dream... for a deal today. That would make Bettman and Fehr so pointless in this process. In fact, it would prove that the two just aren't helping at all. Fehr is the biggest joke of all time. Bettman obviously gets under the players skin, too.

There NEEDS to be a working relationship.

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Bettman will probably be standing outside the room with his ear to the door.

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Hearing there’s a possibility owners at todays meeting may be given ok to address media. Not confirmed, but a possibility.

Even Dolan?
even dolan but they can only say what jacobs and Bettman want them to say

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12-04-2012, 02:01 PM
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I hope the delay isn't true. I think being late to this type of meeting is extremely confrontational. It really sets a bad tone.

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I hope the delay isn't true. I think being late to this type of meeting is extremely confrontational. It really sets a bad tone.
Not sure where that poster got that info. Havnt seen Anything about a delay.

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Who is causing the alleged lateness?

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Hearing there’s a possibility owners at todays meeting may be given ok to address media. Not confirmed, but a possibility.

Even Dolan?
He isn't at the meeting today so obviously not him, lol.

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@EricFrancis: Something weird going on with Ryan Nugent-Hopkins as Oilers say they can't comment on him at this time. Status very unclear for World Jrs

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Not exactly lockout news, but apparently the Coyotes are looking at a name change.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nhl/ar...medium=twitter

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He is having problems with his shoulder.

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I dont like the mix of players(toews, miller etc. put alot more emotion into this than actual logic) BUT its a decent mix of owners minus jacobs.

you never know what will happen when the owners actually talk to them directly.

Never miss a chance to player-hate.

Miller has been a pretty straight shooter. He's coming from a player's perspective, for sure. But to call him emotional and not logical is just a typical player-hater statement.

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12-04-2012, 02:11 PM
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I think it is funny when players say stuff like this. It is like they have no idea what is going on.
Yes because clearly the geniuses at HF are so much more knowledgeable then the people actually involved in the process.

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12-04-2012, 02:12 PM
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Not exactly lockout news, but apparently the Coyotes are looking at a name change.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nhl/ar...medium=twitter
Hmm.... Well since they are owned by the NHL right now here a few names that would work:

Pheonix Lockouts
Pheonix Linksters
Pheonix Frustration

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I'm not trying to get ahead of myself, but in the hypothetical situation of the lockout ending this week, could teams swipe their players back from the WJC rosters?

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12-04-2012, 02:14 PM
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I hope... and it's just a pipe dream... for a deal today. That would make Bettman and Fehr so pointless in this process. In fact, it would prove that the two just aren't helping at all. Fehr is the biggest joke of all time. Bettman obviously gets under the players skin, too.

There NEEDS to be a working relationship.
Hyperbole much?

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12-04-2012, 02:15 PM
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I'm not trying to get ahead of myself, but in the hypothetical situation of the lockout ending this week, could teams swipe their players back from the WJC rosters?
yes...each team was asked to give a list of 2-3 prospects in jr that they wanted to callback from training camp. so they can take their players back.

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Pancakes or Waffles?

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Hyperbole much?

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12-04-2012, 02:16 PM
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I'm not trying to get ahead of myself, but in the hypothetical situation of the lockout ending this week, could teams swipe their players back from the WJC rosters?
If they were put on a list at the beginning of the lockout that they could be recalled for camp, yes. I know Ryan Murray and Boone Jenner were on the CBJ's list.

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12-04-2012, 02:20 PM
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Whenever this crap ends we deserve a lot better than a "thank you fans" on the ice. I'm talking a goodie basket filled with chocolates, champagne and cavier.

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