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12-04-2012, 07:49 AM
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**** value and doesnt address any needs for the team. We also somehow end up trading one of our best prospects in the process...

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12-04-2012, 09:53 AM
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Getzlaf, Hiller Raymond for Bozak, Kadri, Colborne, 1st 2014, 2nd 2013?

Colborne is a borderline bust
Bozak is a fringe second line center (fits a bad team tbqh)
Kadri has tons of question marks
1st 2014??? Really why not first 2013
2nd is a 2nd

You barely get Hiller and Raymond alone for this deal, let alone Getzlaf.

A more realistic trade would be

To Toronto: Hiller, Smith Pelly , Getzlaf

To Anahiem: Schneider, Kulemin, Rielly, Kassian, Jensen , Toronto 2014 1st, Vancouver 1st 2013

To Vancouver: Perry, Reimer

In total

Toronto gets: Hiller, Smith Pelly , Getzlaf for Kulemin Rielly, 2014 1st and Reimer

Canucks get: Perry, Reimer for Schneider, Jensen and Kassian and Canucks 2013 1st

Ducks get: Schneider, Kulemin, Rielly, Kassian, Jensen , Toronto 2014 1st, Vancouver 1st 2013 for Perry, Getzlaf, Hiller and Smith Pelly

This only happens if Anaheim decides to do a full rebuild


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12-04-2012, 10:01 AM
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Seems like the Leafs really cash out here, coming from a Leafs fan.

Getzlaf, Hiller Raymond for Bozak, Kadri, Colborne, 1st 2014, 2nd 2013?
Yes and with those players added ,the first would not be that great

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12-04-2012, 10:17 AM
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So basically you are saying that the Ducks will trade...

- Their first line center
- Their Hart Trophy-winning RW
- Their starting goaltender
- One of their top prospects. A local, btw.

... in an offseason, in which they probably lose...

- The face of the franchise
- The only center, who is somewhat capable to play on the second line and isn't a prospect.

..?


Unless Murray is going full retard this won't happen, because full retard would mean full rebuild in this situation. You never go full rebuild (except you are the Oilers ).


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12-04-2012, 11:12 AM
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Getzlaf, Hiller Raymond for Bozak, Kadri, Colborne, 1st 2014, 2nd 2013?

Colborne is a borderline bust
Bozak is a fringe second line center (fits a bad team tbqh)
Kadri has tons of question marks
1st 2014??? Really why not first 2013
2nd is a 2nd

You barely get Hiller and Raymond alone for this deal, let alone Getzlaf.

A more realistic trade would be

To Toronto: Hiller, Smith Pelly , Getzlaf

To Anahiem: Schneider, Kulemin, Rielly, Kassian, Jensen , Toronto 2014 1st, Vancouver 1st 2013

To Vancouver: Perry, Reimer

In total

Toronto gets: Hiller, Smith Pelly , Getzlaf for Kulemin Rielly, 2014 1st and Reimer

Canucks get: Perry, Reimer for Schneider, Jensen and Kassian and Canucks 2013 1st

Ducks get: Schneider, Kulemin, Rielly, Kassian, Jensen , Toronto 2014 1st, Vancouver 1st 2013 for Perry, Getzlaf, Hiller and Smith Pelly

This only happens if Anaheim decides to do a full rebuild
I'm not averse to doing something around Schneider and Perry, but adding the equivalent of three 1sts on top of him is borderline insanity from our POV.

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12-04-2012, 11:14 AM
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No way man Raymond Getlaf is my fav!!!!!

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12-04-2012, 11:15 AM
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To Toronto:Hiller, Raymond Getlaf

To Anahiem:Schnieder, Bozak, Tor 2nd (2013)Van 1st (2013), Kassain , Kadri, Colbourne , Toronto 2014 1st

To Vancouver: Perry, Etem

Thoughts?
Well...being i loved it instantly...i gotta think it's not good for the Ducks.

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12-04-2012, 11:17 AM
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I'm not averse to doing something around Schneider and Perry, but adding the equivalent of three 1sts on top of him is borderline insanity from our POV.
Except the fact thyat we have a #1 already and some great prospects who will be ready in the next 4-5 years when Hiller is out of his prime.

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12-04-2012, 11:20 AM
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Except the fact thyat we have a #1 already and some great prospects who will be ready in the next 4-5 years when Hiller is out of his prime.
I never said the Ducks would be all over it, simply that there is no way Perry would garner that kind of value as a rental.

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12-04-2012, 11:24 AM
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So basically you are saying that the Ducks will trade...

- Their first line center
- Their Hart Trophy-winning RW
- Their starting goaltender
- One of their top prospects. A local, btw.

... in an offseason, in which they probably lose...

- The face of the franchise
- The only center, who is somewhat capable to blay on the second line and isn't a prospect.

..?


Unless Murray is going full retard this won't happen, because full retard would mean full rebuild in this situation. You never go full rebuild (except you are the Oilers ).
NEVER GO FULL RETARD.....sean penn...i am sam....went full retard.

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12-04-2012, 11:25 AM
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for me the ducks make a killing on the deal
That's an awful return.


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12-04-2012, 11:33 AM
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quality for quantity from the Ducks perspective.

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12-04-2012, 12:41 PM
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Anaheim resigns Getzlaf and Perry, telling both teams to sod off.

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12-04-2012, 01:40 PM
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Wasn't there discussion of Edler+Schneider being good value for Perry+ (not Etem, obviously) if Hiller was moved/injured/remaining in Europe? I mean that cuts the quantity, gives quality back, and if this abomination of a trade proposal (so many big, moving pieces...) were to be salvaged, I'd imagine something like that being a corner stone from Vancouver as opposed to Kassian, Jensen, 1st, Raymond, +, +, +.

...I mean Anaheim has the same number of contract spots available as Toronto and Vancouver do. And they value their stars the same way, not as players that haven't done well, or contributed to their city that need to be run out of town here. Can Vancouver fans imagine if that was offered for the Sedins? Or Phaneuf/Kessel from Toronto? That dog don't hunt.

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12-04-2012, 05:26 PM
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I really hope Getzlaf and Perry will sign a prolongation with the ducks, they r the franchise face. I can't imagine anahein without them.

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12-04-2012, 06:02 PM
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So Anaheim decides to go full rebuild, then includes their best prospect in the deal?

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12-04-2012, 06:43 PM
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So Anaheim decides to go full rebuild, then includes their best prospect in the deal?
I don't know about best prospect, but one of the best prospects. He's harder to move because he's a local boy and we don't really have a ton of those.

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12-04-2012, 07:10 PM
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So Anaheim decides to go full rebuild, then includes their best prospect in the deal?
I wouldnt say best. Easily top 6.

Holland Palmieri Vatanen Lindholm Gibson are arguably ahead of him.

Regardless, your point is 100% valid.

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12-04-2012, 08:14 PM
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No way man Raymond Getlaf is my fav!!!!!
Mason Raymond maybe ?

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12-04-2012, 10:55 PM
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So Anaheim decides to go full rebuild, then includes their best prospect in the deal?
Etem isn't Anaheim's best prospect. I'd put him around their top 5, give or take, with an asterisk after his name because he's a local boy that can be pretty appealing for a California team. He's certainly a good prospect, and one of their best though.

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12-04-2012, 10:58 PM
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Leafs could just sign Getz.

Canucks can just sign Perry.


Well at least attempt to.
Yup. It's just so easy to accomplish that. Have a hole you need filled? Want a great player? Wait for a UFA, and sign them. Problem solved

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Yup. It's just so easy to accomplish that. Have a hole you need filled? Want a great player? Wait for a UFA, and sign them. Problem solved
Hey, we need a new fantasy now that Weber is gone.

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12-05-2012, 12:12 AM
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No offense to Ducks fans, but I really, really hope Perry wants to leave to a contender, and that Gillis is first in line to table an offer.

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I'd laugh if this happened... and then as soon as Perry and Getz hit UFA they sign back to Ducks

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Leafs get robbed. I think we have to throw in Fowler, Lindholm, Palmieri and Gibson to the Leafs.

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