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12-04-2012, 10:49 PM
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12-04-2012, 10:51 PM
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Maybe after the Grabovski trade, Montreal can become to Toronto what Toronto is to Boston.

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12-04-2012, 10:53 PM
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Its easy to judge many years after the trade.

I just remember the media when we traded Theodore. They took their time to remember us the Roy trade.

Some journalist seemed really worry we did another big mistake.

Of course we all agree and knew there will never be another Roy and Theodore wasn't on the same level.

But still, it took guts to trade Theodore to Colorado.

What about the Halak trade? did it took guts after the Roy fiasco?
Probably some rogue francophone journalist who has a blind love for francophone players in general and ignores anything else.

NOTE: That is not a shot at most francophone journalists, or francophones in general, just a small, vocal minority who place more importance on where a player is from over his actual skill level.

The only similarity between Roy trade and Theodore trade was that it was with Colorado. Nothing else. Theodore was pretty much useless when we dealt him. There was little, if any risk involved, considering we got a goalie back who was virtually in the same boat as Theodore.

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12-04-2012, 10:58 PM
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Maybe after the Grabovski trade, Montreal can become to Toronto what Toronto is to Boston.
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12-04-2012, 10:59 PM
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Reilly, Gardiner 2013 1st, 2nd 2014 1st

Or no thanks!

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12-04-2012, 11:03 PM
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Reilly, Gardiner 2013 1st, 2nd 2014 1st

Or no thanks!
So in other words, no thanks.

Hypothetically speaking though, let's say the Leafs picks happen to be top 5 (approx where they picked this year)

Rielly-Ekbald
Gardiner-Jones

For

Price

So basically a star goalie, for the best defense in the league

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12-04-2012, 11:08 PM
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So in other words, no thanks.

Hypothetically speaking though, let's say the Leafs picks happen to be top 5 (approx where they picked this year)

Rielly-Ekbald
Gardiner-Jones

For

Price

So basically a star goalie, for the best defense in the league
The Leafs would not pick top 3 in 2013 and 2014 with Price in the nets.

No chance we even consider it if Gardiner and Rielly aren't included as a base.

Kulemin, Kadri, Colbourne, MacArthur, Asthon and co. are spare change. That's like the Habs offering you Palushaj, Bourque and Weber for Kessel.

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12-04-2012, 11:10 PM
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Rielly+JVR+Riemer for Price+Moen+3rd, as every burke trade needs a pick involved.

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12-04-2012, 11:12 PM
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The Leafs would not pick top 3 in 2013 and 2014 with Price in the nets.

No chance we even consider it if Gardiner and Rielly aren't included as a base.

Kulemin, Kadri, Colbourne, MacArthur, Asthon and co. are spare change. That's like the Habs offering you Palushaj, Bourque and Weber for Kessel.
agree.
not both.
not near comparable value.

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12-04-2012, 11:15 PM
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The Leafs would not pick top 3 in 2013 and 2014 with Price in the nets.

No chance we even consider it if Gardiner and Rielly aren't included as a base.

Kulemin, Kadri, Colbourne, MacArthur, Asthon and co. are spare change. That's like the Habs offering you Palushaj, Bourque and Weber for Kessel.
In 2013 Price doesn't decide whether the leafs get a top pick or not, a lottery ball does.

Fine, remove Ekbald and even then the Leafs get ripped

I understand that scraps won't get us Price.

In willing to start with Rielly and keep adding.

Rielly + Reimer + Kadri + Colborne for Price is the max I'd do.

That's equivalent to the Habs offering Galchenyuk + 2 of Gallagher/Hudon/Leblanc/Bealieu/Tinordi + something of Reimer's value for Phil Kessel.

Which honestly isn't a bad offer at all

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12-04-2012, 11:18 PM
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Why not just do something around Kessel for Price?

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12-04-2012, 11:22 PM
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The Leafs would not pick top 3 in 2013 and 2014 with Price in the nets.

No chance we even consider it if Gardiner and Rielly aren't included as a base.

Kulemin, Kadri, Colbourne, MacArthur, Asthon and co. are spare change. That's like the Habs offering you Palushaj, Bourque and Weber for Kessel.
Montreal did pick in the top 3 with Price in the net.

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12-04-2012, 11:23 PM
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Why not just do something around Kessel for Price?
Maybe some Montreal fan would rather do that.

I personally think Reilly is a better fit and have more value for Montreal as i dont expect Montreal to be a contender soon.

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12-04-2012, 11:25 PM
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In 2013 Price doesn't decide whether the leafs get a top pick or not, a lottery ball does.

Fine, remove Ekbald and even then the Leafs get ripped

I understand that scraps won't get us Price.

In willing to start with Rielly and keep adding.

Rielly + Reimer + Kadri + Colborne for Price is the max I'd do.

That's equivalent to the Habs offering Galchenyuk + 2 of Gallagher/Hudon/Leblanc/Bealieu/Tinordi + something of Reimer's value for Phil Kessel.

Which honestly isn't a bad offer at all
its a very interesting offer in my hab fan point of view.

Do we have a deal?

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12-04-2012, 11:34 PM
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its a very interesting offer in my hab fan point of view.

Do we have a deal?
Montreal won't trade Price, he's the cornerstone that we are building the franchise with from the back out... Reilly hasn't proven anything yet so although he may be good, we don't know how he'll be at the NHL level.

Who's going to play net for Montreal if Price is gone? It's not like there is huge goaltending depth in the franchise.

Terrible, terrible, terrible.

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12-04-2012, 11:35 PM
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its a very interesting offer in my hab fan point of view.

Do we have a deal?
Might be a slight overpayment (depending if prospects hit potential), but yes.

But I'm ****ing sick of trading top talent for crap goalies. Rask for Raycrap, Eller/Couture for Toskala (actual pick/who it was traded for), Blake for Giguere (this ones a joke ), and probably more to come

Getting Price solidifies that starter position for AT LEAST a decade.

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The Leafs would not pick top 3 in 2013 and 2014 with Price in the nets.

No chance we even consider it if Gardiner and Rielly aren't included as a base.

Kulemin, Kadri, Colbourne, MacArthur, Asthon and co. are spare change. That's like the Habs offering you Palushaj, Bourque and Weber for Kessel.
These are the spare parts they are using to try and get Luongo. Oh actually pardon me Kulemin is too valuable to their core. All those 7 goals to valuable they say.

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These are the spare parts they are using to try and get Luongo. Oh actually pardon me Kulemin is too valuable to their core. All those 7 goals to valuable they say.
He's our best defensive forward and scored 30 goals the year before.

He is valuable, maybe not in a trade for a star, but he is still valuable

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12-04-2012, 11:43 PM
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He's our best defensive forward and scored 30 goals the year before.

He is valuable, maybe not in a trade for a star, but he is still valuable
Well Luongo is a star and Leaf fans won't add him part of a package.....what you think?

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Might be a slight overpayment (depending if prospects hit potential), but yes.

But I'm ****ing sick of trading top talent for crap goalies. Rask for Raycrap, Eller/Couture for Toskala (actual pick/who it was traded for), Blake for Giguere (this ones a joke ), and probably more to come

Getting Price solidifies that starter position for AT LEAST a decade.
Then its good time to time that two fans from two differents teams agree on a virtual deal.

i would really wish the best for Price and that's fine if he become your franchise goalie for a decade.

For Montreal. i all agree there are risk involved since i get 3 unproven prospect.

To make a short explanation...Its like a lottery ticket but with odds i estimate in my favor. I would rather pay 100$ for 3 tickets with 50% chance to win 80$ (120$ expectation) than keeping a "proven" 100$.

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Well Luongo is a star and Leaf fans won't add him part of a package.....what you think?
Id include him if we had to. Not my first option to get rid of though of course.
Thing with Lu is his contract. I'd prefer Price a million times over Lu
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Then its good time to time that fans from two different teams agree on a virtual deal.

i would really wish the best for Price and that's fine if he become your franchise goalie for a decade.

For Montreal. i all agree there are risk involved since i get 3 unproven prospect.

Its like a lottery ticket but with odds i estimate in my favor. I would rather pay 100$ for 3 ticket with 50% chance to win 80$ (120$ expectation) than keeping a "proven" 100$.
Yea it's solid value, although tbh I still don't see why the habs do it. Unless they have confidence they could sign Lu or that Reimer will rebound.

Rielly, Subban, Bealieu, Tinordi, etc would be a solid D for the future

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A lot more than Luongo.

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12-04-2012, 11:53 PM
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Id include him if we had to. Not my first option to get rid of though of course.
Thing with Lu is his contract. I'd prefer Price a million times over Lu


Yea it's solid value, although tbh I still don't see why the habs do it. Unless they have confidence they could sign Lu or that Reimer will rebound.

Rielly, Subban, Bealieu, Tinordi, etc would be a solid D for the future
As i dont expect Montreal to fight for the playoff, even with Price...

i dont mind giving Reimer another shoot, i see no reason to give up on him yet while sharing the goal with Budaj. I would also like to give Desjardins a shoot if there is an opportunity.

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If Montreal still had Price/Halak, you could actually spin a good deal around Rielly+ without making it ridiculous. Ah, Gauthier...

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If Montreal still had Price/Halak, you could actually spin a good deal around Rielly+ without making it ridiculous. Ah, Gauthier...
did you agree with the decision of Gauthier to trade Halak?

I was among the one agreeing with it, for the same reason i wish to trade Price now.

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