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12-04-2012, 08:24 PM
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I concur, WJC has always been more about prospects than anything..

If it's vs Canada we will all hear complaints, and Russia will be against Grigorenko/Yakupov.
I don't get it! While I'd love Gally to rack the most points in the tournament, I still hate seeing Canada lose...

Maybe I'm just more patriotic than most

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The Hudon is Electric Edition suits me fine.
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I don't get it! While I'd love Gally to rack the most points in the tournament, I still hate seeing Canada lose...

Maybe I'm just more patriotic than most
This year's edition of Canada has a lot of players I hate (or should hate as a Habs fan) on the team, aka Rielly, Hamilton, and Huberdeau. Let them fail, I won't shed a tear.

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I agree!



This year's edition of Canada has a lot of players I hate (or should hate as a Habs fan) on the team, aka Rielly, Hamilton, and Huberdeau. Let them fail, I won't shed a tear.
I don't see it like that... I hate the leafs, still like Gardiner. I hate the bruins, but I still like seguin. A good respectable player is easy to like.

Also, I don't see any reason to hate Huberdeau except for the fact that he wasn't drafted by us!

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I don't see it like that... I hate the leafs, still like Gardiner. I hate the bruins, but I still like seguin. A good respectable player is easy to like.

Also, I don't see any reason to hate Huberdeau except for the fact that he wasn't drafted by us!
Granted on your other point, but Huberdeau just irks me... like a woman that hates an other woman at her job and feels threatened. Everyone keeps comparing him to Gally.

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Vail picked the worst time to go off the rails (Spits as a whole but still). On the other hand, they have Matteau on there who has been absolutely terrible in the Q.

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12-04-2012, 09:09 PM
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Vail picked the worst time to go off the rails (Spits as a whole but still). On the other hand, they have Matteau on there who has been absolutely terrible in the Q.
Hasn't Matteau picked it up lately? Anyway I don't think he's there for skill, he's there to be a pest and help future Leafs superstar Biggs be an intimidator.

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I see no reason why any of those guys should be considered locks at this point, aside from the obvious Hockey Canada grinder/checking line hard-on.
I think this is an example of him just pointing out the less obvious. The top 6 locks are so obvious it's not worth mentioning to the public. If Bob says RNH, Huberdeau, Strome, Scheifele, etc are locks on forwards no one will care since we already know. It's the grinders/checking line players that have question marks around them and I guess those guys are highly favoured by the staff.

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I don't get it! While I'd love Gally to rack the most points in the tournament, I still hate seeing Canada lose...

Maybe I'm just more patriotic than most
Same here first and foremost i would like to see Canada win it all and dominate, and seeing Habs prospects, Gally, Collberg and Hudon rack up points would be awesome to.

GO CANADA GO!!!!!!!

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I think this is an example of him just pointing out the less obvious. The top 6 locks are so obvious it's not worth mentioning to the public. If Bob says RNH, Huberdeau, Strome, Scheifele, etc are locks on forwards no one will care since we already know. It's the grinders/checking line players that have question marks around them and I guess those guys are highly favoured by the staff.
Actually he did mention them. He had the four forward returnees (Strome, Huberdeau, Scheifele, Jenner) plus RNH, and the three I mentioned as his locks. Which means, if you take Bob's word as law, there's only 4 forward spots left open...to be divided amongst MacKinnon, Drouin, McNeill, Monahan, Ritchie, Rattie, Shinkaruk, Graovac and Lipon. That's a lot of talent you're leaving out just because you've already locked in your grinders.

I don't know, to me, it seems like a backwards approach. Especially since many of the offensive guys also take regular shifts on the P.K. for their junior teams.

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Less thread title suggestions and more on-topic discussion, please. I'm sure a fitting name will crop up sooner or later.

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How about we list all the players in it for our Habs and update it throughout the tournament with stats/next game/etc... something like...

USA: Galchenyuk: 4gp-6g,6a-12 pts ,

Brady Vail: 4gp-2g,3a-5 pts

Sweden: Collberg: ......

Czech: Pribyl...

Canada: Hudon....

Should be the first page of an official HABS WJC player thread though really...

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How about we list all the players in it for our Habs and update it throughout the tournament with stats/next game/etc... something like...

USA: Galchenyuk: 4gp-6g,6a-12 pts ,

Brady Vail: 4gp-2g,3a-5 pts

Sweden: Collberg: ......

Czech: Pribyl...

Canada: Hudon....

Should be the first page of an official HABS WJC player thread though really...
Vail and Prybil aren't on their respective national team, as Vail wasn't invited and Prybil will be too old at the time of the tournament.

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How about we list all the players in it for our Habs and update it throughout the tournament with stats/next game/etc... something like...

USA: Galchenyuk: 4gp-6g,6a-12 pts ,

Brady Vail: 4gp-2g,3a-5 pts

Sweden: Collberg: ......

Czech: Pribyl...

Canada: Hudon....

Should be the first page of an official HABS WJC player thread though really...
good idea, too bad Vail is out


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If the lockout ends, how many forwards would TC lose? RNH for sure, maybe Huberdeau and Strome? I imagine Hudon could be in the mix for a top 6 role?

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Rooting for the US, solely because of Galchenyuk, and Germany, because I love Latta.

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If the lockout ends, how many forwards would TC lose? RNH for sure, maybe Huberdeau and Strome? I imagine Hudon could be in the mix for a top 6 role?
Scheifele and Jenner are serious candidates too.

And yes, Hudon would definitely be top 6 then I think.

MacKinnon and Drouin possibly too. MacK would be needed at center for sure.

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I don't see it like that... I hate the leafs, still like Gardiner. I hate the bruins, but I still like seguin. A good respectable player is easy to like.

Also, I don't see any reason to hate Huberdeau except for the fact that he wasn't drafted by us!
Well said. Three great examples of players I respect and enjoy watching, whoever they play for.

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I'd be happy with a Hudon/Danault/Monahan as our 3rd line. A good combination of defence and offence.

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Rooting for the US, solely because of Galchenyuk, and Germany, because I love Latta.

Whole Latta Love.
I just read that Tobias Rieder won't play for Germany. Big blow for their offense

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who remembers the epic battle between Canada and USA for the gold medal in 07 ? they're showing the game tonight at 7pm ET on RDS for those interested

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Actually he did mention them. He had the four forward returnees (Strome, Huberdeau, Scheifele, Jenner) plus RNH, and the three I mentioned as his locks. Which means, if you take Bob's word as law, there's only 4 forward spots left open...to be divided amongst MacKinnon, Drouin, McNeill, Monahan, Ritchie, Rattie, Shinkaruk, Graovac and Lipon. That's a lot of talent you're leaving out just because you've already locked in your grinders.

I don't know, to me, it seems like a backwards approach. Especially since many of the offensive guys also take regular shifts on the P.K. for their junior teams.
Well who out those players can play all 3 fwd positions like Danault and be effective in shutdown role or goon it like Wilson while providing offense/leadership (he had a pretty killer start to season in OHL offensively). IMO, they seem pretty ideal for the grinder/shutdown/leadership type role.

Offensive guys can take regular shifts on PKs but not all offensive guys can go from go to player to playing in a limited role and be effective. I don't see any issues with them being considered locks since those two should in theory slot in perfectly in the role.

I hate to say it but if it were up to me Hudon wouldn't be a lock yet. I'd add 4 top '13 draft guy Shinkaruk, MacKinnon, Drouin, Monahan. With the last pick I'll have to see who fits in best as a 3rd liner type and someone all round or specialist as 13th forward

Huberdeau - RNH - Scheifele
Drouin - Strome - MacKinnon
Shinkaruk - Jenner - [?]
Wilson - Danault - Monahan
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Hudon I can certainly see fit in as a #13 or 3rd liner.

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Well who out those players can play all 3 fwd positions like Danault and be effective in shutdown role or goon it like Wilson while providing offense/leadership (he had a pretty killer start to season in OHL offensively). IMO, they seem pretty ideal for the grinder/shutdown/leadership type role.

Offensive guys can take regular shifts on PKs but not all offensive guys can go from go to player to playing in a limited role and be effective. I don't see any issues with them being considered locks since those two should in theory slot in perfectly in the role.

I hate to say it but if it were up to me Hudon wouldn't be a lock yet. I'd add 4 top '13 draft guy Shinkaruk, MacKinnon, Drouin, Monahan. With the last pick I'll have to see who fits in best as a 3rd liner type and someone all round or specialist as 13th forward

Huberdeau - RNH - Scheifele
Drouin - Strome - MacKinnon
Shinkaruk - Jenner - [?]
Wilson - Danault - Monahan
[?]

Hudon I can certainly see fit in as a #13 or 3rd liner.
-Hudon always performs well in international competitions,lock

-Mackinon probably, Drouin maybe, the rest... don't think so it's kinda rare x 1000 that they choose youngers players like Monahan and Shinkaruk, Mackinon is Mackinon and Drouin is a magician.

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Hey guys just made a WJC Canada Pump Up Video

Hope you guys like it!


!Go Canada Go!

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I just read that Tobias Rieder won't play for Germany. Big blow for their offense
I know. Definitely a big blow. Latvia also may have lost their best offensive player in Girgensons as well. Not that it matters. Germany faces Canada, then USA, then Russia, and finally Slovakia. Best record they'll come out with is 1-3. I don't see them beating the big three, not with the rosters they're all putting out this year.

Latta will be big for their PK and defensive work though. He does a fantastic job in Sarnia, actually playing on the second wave with Galchenyuk (first wave is Sarault and Boucher, if Boucher is not in the box himself).

On the U.S. front, a lot of people are confused at Sarnia's Reid Boucher not getting an invite. His speed was one factor, his discipline was another. Galchenyuk's wingers will be much more skilled than Boucher as well and if he isn't knocking someone out of the top 6 - which he isn't - than his value to the team is not high at all. Sarnia's Murphy will probably play on the third pairing with some PP time. Kid can hammer that puck and with Galchenyuk's vision, look for the set up.

Also liking the rumblings of Collberg playing in a top 6 role on Sweden as well. Throw in the fact that Hudon will look great on Jenner's wing (pure speculation on my part) in a shutdown role, this should be one VERY interesting tournament to watch, both as a Habs and Sting fan.


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Well who out those players can play all 3 fwd positions like Danault and be effective in shutdown role or goon it like Wilson while providing offense/leadership (he had a pretty killer start to season in OHL offensively). IMO, they seem pretty ideal for the grinder/shutdown/leadership type role.

Offensive guys can take regular shifts on PKs but not all offensive guys can go from go to player to playing in a limited role and be effective. I don't see any issues with them being considered locks since those two should in theory slot in perfectly in the role.

I hate to say it but if it were up to me Hudon wouldn't be a lock yet. I'd add 4 top '13 draft guy Shinkaruk, MacKinnon, Drouin, Monahan. With the last pick I'll have to see who fits in best as a 3rd liner type and someone all round or specialist as 13th forward

Huberdeau - RNH - Scheifele
Drouin - Strome - MacKinnon
Shinkaruk - Jenner - [?]
Wilson - Danault - Monahan
[?]

Hudon I can certainly see fit in as a #13 or 3rd liner.
There won't be more than 2 17 years old forwards, you can pretty much take that to the bank. I would say Mckinnon + someone else. Drouin has a net advantage because he's LW and has chemistry with Nathan, but Monahan could slip in, particularly if RNH ends up not coming. Shinkaruk, just don't see it happening at all. Ty Rattie is a lock and the best RW, we need his goals.

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