The 18 players present in New York today are:
Martin St. Louis
Renaud Lavoie @RenLavoieRDS
For the first time. Bill Daly and Steve Fehr are talking to the media together
Daly said he appreciated the efforts of the players and that the two sides would meet again on Wednesday.
"We will work hard to make a deal," Daly said in a joint appearance with Fehr. "I think everybody wants to get a deal done, so I think that's encouraging. We look forward to making more progress tomorrow."
"In some ways I might say it's the best day we've had," said NHLPA special counsel Steve Fehr -- the brother of Don Fehr, the NHLPA executive director who, like his counterpart NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, was purposely absent from the meetings. "I don't want to paint a picture that's too overly optimistic, there is a still a lot of work to do but we'll be back at it tomorrow morning."
Said NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly:
"I don't have much to add, but I appreciate the efforts of the players. In particular the 18 players we had in there today. And the six owners. Everyone is working hard and I think everyone wants to get a deal done, and that's encouraging. "
Doug MacLean reported Bettman had until December 1 to squeeze the players and then his marching orders are to get a deal after December 1.
The NHL might be looking at more than 60 games
According to a source with a good knowledge of the NHL’s business workings, the league has a deal with its major sponsors that will pay it 100 percent of its money if the league plays a schedule of 61 or more games. If the schedule dips below 61 games, the league will receive only 75 percent of its sponsorship money. That percentage continues to decrease down to 50 percent if the league only plays a 41-game schedule.
... neither side was offering specifics on the proposals or what progress had been made, leaving the impression that a quick end to the lockout may not be a sure thing.
The union made a new offer after negotiations reconvened Wednesday afternoon at a Midtown Manhattan hotel. The owners caucused over the proposal for the rest of the afternoon, then offered a counterproposal.
...talk Wednesday night focused on when training camps would open if a deal was struck by Friday and whether a regular season of 56 or 60 games would open before, or just after, Christmas.
Such talk may be premature, but the mood among owners and executives emerging form the Board of Governors meeting was markedly more upbeat than on previous occasions during the lockout.
“We’re going to continue to talk, up until we get a deal,” said Larry Tanenbaum, the Toronto Maple Leafs’ owner. “As long as we’re talking, we’re hopeful.”